Crash Buyer Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 That's a plain stupid commenlt. Obviously its not. I'll spell it out for you (no pun intended). If these Etonians are cretins and they are running the country, there will be significant consequences on the usefulness of policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Buyer Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The Tories should be slightly worried by this result. With a popular leader and the benefit of incumbency they managed 331 seats. By comparison Blair managed nearly 100 seats more in his second election in 2001. They have not managed a decent working majority since 1987 with Thatcher. Cameron couldn't even match Major's majority The only positive factors they have are the boundary review and Labour's poor selection of leaders. If Labour elects a white Anglo Saxon protestant the Tories are screwed. Major's bastards are already lining up and the Tories will destroy themselves over the EU referendum. As Cameron will not serve a third term, someone like Boris Johnson leading in 2020 would be the final nail in the Tory coffin. This was only a good result against existing expectations. The tail will soon wag the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmonitor Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) No, this was the big lie of the election. Labour didn't particularly spend big until the banks went bust. They didn't let the country down by favouring their tribe, they let the country down by favouring the Tory tribe - bankers and landlords. It was the private debt bubble that led to the crisis. Labour's defeat was due to the conservatives ability to rewrite the history of the credit crunch, and because Ed Miliband doesn't look right. Again have to disagree, Labour ran a huge deficit when we had GDP on speed between 2000-2007. This is when you are supposed to start running surpluses. Indeed following the bust of 1989 following the Thatcher/ Lawson boom Major and Clarke were quickly able to hand over the dream scenario to Labour a mere eight years later simply because they were not running a high deficit and there was no asset Ponzi to support, indeed Major presided over the post war low for house prices in 1995. Australia, for example, didn't run a budget deficit to the same extent, and they didn't suffer the shock this time. Until Labour says sorry for reckless spending then they are unelectable. Also allowing houses to triple in ten years was stupid, straight out of lunatic asylum in fact. The problem with Labour is they just don't listen. They indulge themselves in an odd looking left leaning bloke, that will only appeal to the faithful. They won't say sorry for the massive **** up 2000-2007 in tripling house prices and running huge deficits. Miliband's exit speech just beggared belief....wanting leftish policy to continue and not to admit mistakes. I'm a floating voter...start bloody listening and start saying sorry. Edited May 11, 2015 by crashmonitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUBanana Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28150247 Chuka Umunna clearly has the common touch. He probably does as far as the luvvies are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Is there any sign of the Labour pledge stone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dances with sheeple Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Is there any sign of the Labour pledge stone ? http://johnrieber.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/spinal-tap-tiny-stonehenge.jpg?w=700 http://www.edbatista.com/images/2009/07/Spinal_Tap_Stonehenge.jpg Edited May 11, 2015 by dances with sheeple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The Tories should be slightly worried by this result. With a popular leader and the benefit of incumbency they managed 331 seats. By comparison Blair managed nearly 100 seats more in his second election in 2001. They have not managed a decent working majority since 1987 with Thatcher. Cameron couldn't even match Major's majority The only positive factors they have are the boundary review and Labour's poor selection of leaders. If Labour elects a white Anglo Saxon protestant the Tories are screwed. Major's bastards are already lining up and the Tories will destroy themselves over the EU referendum. As Cameron will not serve a third term, someone like Boris Johnson leading in 2020 would be the final nail in the Tory coffin. This was only a good result against existing expectations. The tail will soon wag the dog. ...everyone is aware it is a tight majority ...elections in the future with all the new emerging parties may well see large majorities as dreams in the past ...the star turn outside of the SNP was the growth of UKIP, while the Greens are making ground........if Labour think Tory gazing is their main focus going forward they are in for a major loss of seats next time....with the SNP and UKIP added horrors to haunt them ..the Labour lefties are out of date right now and need to think again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ...everyone is aware it is a tight majority ...elections in the future with all the new emerging parties may well see large majorities as dreams in the past ...the star turn outside of the SNP was the growth of UKIP, while the Greens are making ground........if Labour think Tory gazing is their main focus going forward they are in for a major loss of seats next time....with the SNP and UKIP added horrors to haunt them ..the Labour lefties are out of date right now and need to think again..... In a couple of years or so, and after a few by elections, the Tories might not even have a majority...they'll also need to be incredibly wary of their outspoken bankbenchers, who could split their vote...I think they're current joy will be short lived, as I also think they'll rip themselves apart over Europe, however they'll rig the boundaries so that they'll get in time after time. The Tories get around 3 times the amount of votes as UKIP, but one side gets over 300 times the number of seats than the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Buyer Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ...everyone is aware it is a tight majority ...elections in the future with all the new emerging parties may well see large majorities as dreams in the past ...the star turn outside of the SNP was the growth of UKIP, while the Greens are making ground........if Labour think Tory gazing is their main focus going forward they are in for a major loss of seats next time....with the SNP and UKIP added horrors to haunt them ..the Labour lefties are out of date right now and need to think again..... The Tories demonstrated their capacity for infighting over Europe under Major. This has not gone away, its the reason Cameron promised a referendum. They are going to self destruct over this again. Their only hope is that Labour makes another poor choice of leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Conservatives at war: senior Tory's threat to quit over human rights Exclusive: Government figure may quit in order to vote against controversial Tory plan to reform the Human Rights Act, as Andrew Mitchell, Dominic Grieve and Damian Green warn against watering it down Ten things we’ve learned from the SNP’s first week in Parliament David Cameron facing a 'nightmare' over EU referendum Democracy ditched in race to install ‘powerhouse’ mayor The senior Tories at loggerheads over the human rights act And Camerons small majority is already under threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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