TheLittleGuy Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 We're having to cope with f*cking outragous fuel prices, and most of what we pay is tax! There's a site raising a petition against this nightmare, and I hope many of you will add your name to it. http://www.fuelprotest.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guy_Montag Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Buy a bike, for the cost of two or three tanks of petrol you can travel for free, get fit & live longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zag2me Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Buy a bike, for the cost of two or three tanks of petrol you can travel for free, get fit & live longer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And get wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guy_Montag Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 And get wet<{POST_SNAPBACK}> But get to annoy drivers by hoping on & off pavements & go through pedestrian crossings, cycling terrifyingly close to their Audi with metal handlebars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredTrainBuilder Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I hope no-one will sign the petition, we need much more expensive fuel to begin the transition to an oil-free (or less oil-dependent) way of life. We are subsiding the mad mullahs, boiling the earth, and have spoilt our cities and towns thanks to the car and the black stuff. Where's the petition to increase fuel tax? I voted for it and will do aso gain, this government cravenly forgot that it commited to retain the previous tax escalator in the face a few short-sighted campaigners like you. And house prices will crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theChuz Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Buy a bike, for the cost of two or three tanks of petrol you can travel for free, get fit & live longer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Commute to work in a city and it will do more harm than good to your health, all those pesky toxins and C02, prolly get splatted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzMosiz Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Commute to work in a city and it will do more harm than good to your health, all those pesky toxins and C02, prolly get splatted to.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same air you breath in a car is it not? Just use a face mask! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guy_Montag Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Commute to work in a city and it will do more harm than good to your health, all those pesky toxins and C02, prolly get splatted to.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> & no-one has ever been splatted inside their car, have they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarker Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I for one am delighted about the oil prices. But then I use public transport and am a selfish c * * t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nem Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 High fuel prices (as in Oil not tax) affect alot more than just transport costs, there are countless products made from oil, plastic to name just one!! In the next 20 years it'll be like going back in time.... your new ultraplasma television finished in stunning bakelite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guy_Montag Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I feel really sorry for TheLittleGuy - the sub-title of this thread "something we can all agree on" Apparently not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 (edited) Same air you breath in a car is it not? You breathe a lot more air cycling than you do in a car. Also, in cities bikes will often be stuck in the same parts of the road as diesel buses and taxis, which are by far the most harmful polluters. There was an article in one of the papers a few weeks ago about a study showing that cycling to work in a big city was as harmful as smoking a few cigarettes (incidentally, another study by one of the London universities a few years back showed the same harm from commuting on the underground). Just use a face mask! Might make you feel better, but won't do much to stop the most dangerous pollutants. Edited September 6, 2005 by MarkG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 High fuel prices (as in Oil not tax) affect alot more than just transport costs, there are countless products made from oil, plastic to name just one!!In the next 20 years it'll be like going back in time.... your new ultraplasma television finished in stunning bakelite!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Indeed, it's much more than rep mobiles, even if you don't own a car oil affects nearly everything you do, from food production, transportation, chemicals, nearly everything in your home to heating your home, even your bloody tooth paste. I'd be much more worried about the price of crude than excise duty, though obviously the increase in transport costs drive inflation and therefore should drive interest rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarker Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Ah. But cycling is also a very good form of exercise which will easily off-set the damage of inhaling a few fumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollandPark Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Energy resources are not infinite, and those who want to burn them up for personal travel, should be made to pay a price which reflects their scarcity Better get on the renewables bandwagon, you selfish car-owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 But cycling is also a very good form of exercise which will easily off-set the damage of inhaling a few fumes. Even if that's the case, you'd be much better to drive to work and then exercise in an area that's _not_ full of carcinogenic pollutants. Better get on the renewables bandwagon, you selfish car-owners Yes, it's horrible all those selfish, selfish car-owners driving to the jobs that keep this country's economy going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patprimer74 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 We're having to cope with f*cking outragous fuel prices, and most of what we pay is tax! There's a site raising a petition against this nightmare, and I hope many of you will add your name to it.http://www.fuelprotest.com/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not again! For how long are we going to get these nutters coming out of the woodwork? Not so long ago, we saw the 'independent' farmers and hauliers attempting their thuggery at the oil refinery entrances - and failed. (One of the leaders is now a Tory Welsh Assembly member - his protest wasn't political, of course!) Before trying bully-boy tactics on the roads, these people should tell us where they propose cutting public expenditure to match the tax cuts. Reduce the armed forces, perhaps? Cut back on cancer treatment in our hospitals? Close schools? Alternatively, they will introduce Capital Gains Tax on private house price gains. We wouldn't want that, would we. What about introducing the much higher costs that continental hauliers, for example, put up with? With road tolls and enormous lorry taxes? p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echapps Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I say up with pump prices. Make us wasters and polluters stop and think. Help get traffic off the roads. I'm serious by the way and would sign a petition to INCREASE fuel duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPOD Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Every day seems to bring a new surprise for us 'typical' road users. Fuel cost increases, road tax increases, tolls, parking costs, extortionate parking fines (I can use this word legally in this context under Scots Law), unrealistic speeding restrictions, the endless roadworks, costs of motorway 'services', costs of buying cars, costs of disposing cars, costs of supplying and disposing of other people's cars, the cost of insurance, cost of repairs - the list goes on and on All bar one of these gripes seem to have nothing whatsoever to do with the price of petrol. And petrol is still cheaper than milk, bottled water, orange juice, just about any liquid you care to name, despite being a non-renewable resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Help get traffic off the roads. Why do you hate poor people so much that you want to force them out of their cars? Or do you just want to be able to drive your Bentley everywhere at 120 mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Why do you hate poor people so much that you want to force them out of their cars? Or do you just want to be able to drive your Bentley everywhere at 120 mph?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you take Congestion Charging for exampple you may well be right, but I'll have to ask my mate Prescott about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 If you take Congestion Charging for exampple you may well be right, but I'll have to ask my mate Prescott about that one. Well, as far as I can see Two-Jags does believe that roads should be restricted to 'important' people like him, without the oiks getting in the way. Hence, for example, the M4 government vehicles lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theChuz Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Same air you breath in a car is it not?Just use a face mask! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually its funny you should say that because i don't think it is and i know how daft that sounds but i know when im on my motorbike and sat behind a car the exaust fumes are awful if i open my visor, i can smell them and taste them. Ive never had that in a car? Also i think on a pushbike it generally takes longer so you've a greater exposer, could wear a mask i suppose they do in china i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipstick Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Wasn't bakelite one of the first plastics???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guy_Montag Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Why do you hate poor people so much that you want to force them out of their cars? Or do you just want to be able to drive your Bentley everywhere at 120 mph?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really poor people don't have cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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