Campbell On Qt

[HXO]

When they invited him on they must have known it would get right up Camerons nose, I don't think they've done themselves any favours with this decision and their misplaced self righteous indignation following Laws being pulled.

Campbell shouldn't be on that panel representing Labour, he's just an angry vacuous spin merchant.

And, don't get me started on that Piers Morgan.

Edit: Just found the thread on the main forum.

[shindigger]

When they invited him on they must have known it would get right up Camerons nose, I don't think they've done themselves any favours with this decision and their misplaced self righteous indignation following Laws being pulled.

Campbell shouldn't be on that panel representing Labour, he's just an angry vacuous spin merchant.

And, don't get me started on that Piers Morgan.

Edit: Just found the thread on the main forum.

If one was to get the right seat in the theatre, one could have nailed both the ***** with one bullet. :angry:

[Guest X-QUORK]

If one was to get the right seat in the theatre, one could have nailed both the ***** with one bullet. :angry:

I'd happily Taser either one of them in the eyeball.

[Sledgehead]

Am I right in thinking that all the major political parties put up a bod for the Nick Griffin appearance?

So, there you are Alistair. You are more hated than Nazi Nick.

Oh, come on, don't feel hard done by. Nick just wants to kick all ethnic minorities out of the country. You however put together the winning tender for bombing the cr@p out of them in their own land. And you still defend it. No wonder nobody likes you.

[Guest tbatst2000]

So, there you are Alistair. You are more hated than Nazi Nick.

I thought more or less the same thing. The Tories and Lib-Dems must really hate Campbell if they're prepared for a bust up with the BBC almost straight away. I also thought it was a really dumb move by the BBC themselves to do something that was so obviously going to p1ss off a new government looking for ways to save money.

[HXO]

I thought more or less the same thing. The Tories and Lib-Dems must really hate Campbell if they're prepared for a bust up with the BBC almost straight away. I also thought it was a really dumb move by the BBC themselves to do something that was so obviously going to p1ss off a new government looking for ways to save money.

Or does it play right into Camerons hands; deal with the BBC now short and sharp during the honeymoon.

[JustYield]

Am I right in thinking that all the major political parties put up a bod for the Nick Griffin appearance?

So, there you are Alistair. You are more hated than Nazi Nick.

Oh, come on, don't feel hard done by. Nick just wants to kick all ethnic minorities out of the country. You however put together the winning tender for bombing the cr@p out of them in their own land. And you still defend it. No wonder nobody likes you.

Alastair Campbell will become a case study in cognitive dissonance when he relapses into alcoholism triggered by this realisation that the world has moved on without him despite what he did.

[K.O. Johnny]

Alastair Campbell will become a case study in cognitive dissonance when he relapses into alcoholism triggered by this realisation that the world has moved on without him despite what he did.

I wouldn't even flatter him with that evaluation. I think he is a truly evil person.

I've seen the effects of a nervous breakdown on people and it can be horrific, but I would happily see him have another one and be left untreated. I know that's a bad sentiment, but he is truly an evil Cee U Next Tuesday, the British equivalent of Donald Rumsfield :angry:

I'd love to meet him, I really would plant one on him

[Warwick Yellow]

Am I right in thinking that all the major political parties put up a bod for the Nick Griffin appearance?

So, there you are Alistair. You are more hated than Nazi Nick.

Oh, come on, don't feel hard done by. Nick just wants to kick all ethnic minorities out of the country. You however put together the winning tender for bombing the cr@p out of them in their own land. And you still defend it. No wonder nobody likes you.

Well whatever you think about NG at least he is a legally elected politician.........Campbell is simply an unelected sociopath who has done untold damage to our political culture and society.

The Tories and I suspect the Libs have known for years the BBC is inherently pro-Liebour and will always consciously or unconsciously try and advance their cause; I just hope Cameron and Clegg have the balls to make sure this is only the beginning of the fightback against state funded media bias.

[daniel stallion]

Well whatever you think about NG at least he is a legally elected politician.........Campbell is simply an unelected sociopath who has done untold damage to our political culture and society.

The Tories and I suspect the Libs have known for years the BBC is inherently pro-Liebour and will always consciously or unconsciously try and advance their cause; I just hope Cameron and Clegg have the balls to make sure this is only the beginning of the flightback against state funded media bias.

You are being unfair. Nick Griffin and Alistair Campbell could do more to tackle the deficit than any of the current mob.

I for example, would pay handsomely towards a National Debt fund to see them compete in a Mad Max style 'two man enter one man leave' Thunderdome death match.

[Sledgehead]

... a really dumb move by the BBC themselves to do something that was so obviously going to p1ss off a new government looking for ways to save money.

... like upping Christine Bleakley's pay by 800% to £800k, when Cameron said nobody in the public sector should earn more than the PM.

[Northwest Smith]

It's not compulsary to go on Question Time. AFAIK they are a TV panel show on BBC1 hosted by David Dimbleby and not

part of the Government.

[Pick It Down]

I don't suppose any remembers the instance where a Green party member (Caroline Lucas) was due to appear on the Andrew Marr show opposite Lord Monckton (a climate change sceptic). After Lucas (?) complained, the BBC agreed to block Monckton from appearing. I might not have the correct names but this certainly happened around a year ago, the BBC happy to be in hock to the Greens it seems.

[HXO]

I don't suppose any remembers the instance where a Green party member (Caroline Lucas) was due to appear on the Andrew Marr show opposite Lord Monckton (a climate change sceptic). After Lucas (?) complained, the BBC agreed to block Monckton from appearing. I might not have the correct names but this certainly happened around a year ago, the BBC happy to be in hock to the Greens it seems.

Nice, who'd a thunk it, rank hypocrisy from the BBC.

[hilltop]

Campbell's alright, just a bit of an attack dog. Perhaps the Libcons are afraid of him.

But the BBC cannot be bossed about like the Government tried, any vestige of independence would be lost.

[The Masked Tulip]

Luvvies talking about the Meeja as if it is the most important thing in the Universe

[Sibley's Love Child]

Campbell's alright, just a bit of an attack dog. Perhaps the Libcons are afraid of him.

But the BBC cannot be bossed about like the Government tried, any vestige of independence would be lost.

I suspect you'll be in a minority of one with that opinion; surely most sane people find him to be a pr*ck.

[Sibley's Love Child]

Ask Hilltop who he voted for.

I know; he's HPC's resident New Labour fan-boy.

[euroconv]

My take on this is that the Labour group of MPs are currently a headless chicken. Their MPs are used to getting bleeper messages and 'on-message' crib-sheets for the last 15 years. With no leadership and no strategy, the only message on their Blackberries is to use 'Tory Cuts' in every sentence.

Campbell is the only one who could put a coherent message together, especially as none of the leadership contenders or their backbench supporters want too much exposure that could reveal their strategy this early in the contest. This leaves the option of having a government minister from the Tories vs a previous Labour front-bencher (a 'loser' from the past) or a weaker backbencher who was non-aligned with any of the leadership candidates.

So Campbell was put forward as a strong placeholder that could fight the debate and give the Party some breathing space.

From this logic I entirely agree with No10 withdrawing from the debate. Campbell is simply a spinmeister who was there to provide temporary leadership and direction.

The Conservatives should have sent Margaret Thatcher. For a laugh.

[Guest KingCharles1st]

I would think the BBC couldn't believe their Labourite luck when the Tories handed them this bit of win on a silver salver.

Mind you- Redwood is I think on a similar level to Mandelslime in terms of threatening presence, so it wasn't all bad- and as long as Caroline keeps getting used as fluffy window dressing for otherwise boring political shows, I'm all for it.

[HXO]

My take on this is that the Labour group of MPs are currently a headless chicken. Their MPs are used to getting bleeper messages and 'on-message' crib-sheets for the last 15 years. With no leadership and no strategy, the only message on their Blackberries is to use 'Tory Cuts' in every sentence.

Campbell is the only one who could put a coherent message together, especially as none of the leadership contenders or their backbench supporters want too much exposure that could reveal their strategy this early in the contest. This leaves the option of having a government minister from the Tories vs a previous Labour front-bencher (a 'loser' from the past) or a weaker backbencher who was non-aligned with any of the leadership candidates.

So Campbell was put forward as a strong placeholder that could fight the debate and give the Party some breathing space.

From this logic I entirely agree with No10 withdrawing from the debate. Campbell is simply a spinmeister who was there to provide temporary leadership and direction.

The Conservatives should have sent Margaret Thatcher.

Excellent logic.

Labour are no longer a relevant voice in the political landscape, that's assuming they ever were - what had they once they ditched their socialist and trade union backbone other than Blair's charm and Campbell's spin?

If anyone's off for a generation it's Labour.

[euroconv]

Excellent logic.

Labour are no longer a relevant voice in the political landscape, that's assuming they ever were - what had they once they ditched their socialist and trade union backbone other than Blair's charm and Campbell's spin?

If anyone's off for a generation it's Labour.

The follow-on logic is that very few of the Labour Party MPs actually know what they stand for, and have to wait for Alistair Campbell to tell them.

Hasn't it been this way since Blair & Campbell? It's just that now the ******** is harder to paint. The relentless line will be that the Tories caused the unemployment, cuts and high inflation. Any fool could point to the April 2010 stats just before the election, as Gordon's adreneline shot started to wear off. Off course the Tories won't get this message across very well, even though it's an open goal. Here's hoping though.

[Jadoube]

I would think the BBC couldn't believe their Labourite luck when the Tories handed them this bit of win on a silver salver.

Mind you- Redwood is I think on a similar level to Mandelslime in terms of threatening presence, so it wasn't all bad- and as long as Caroline keeps getting used as fluffy window dressing for otherwise boring political shows, I'm all for it.

Looks like we now know the real reason No 10 wouldn't let Laws onto QT to go head to head with Campbell. None of this anti-BBC nonsense. Laws has been a naughty boy. He's had to say sorry and pay the money back. Egg on face all round for all those spinning "valid" reasons for govt trying to dictate who is allowed on QT. Lots of words to be eaten.

[hilltop]

I know; he's HPC's resident New Labour fan-boy.

Old Labour, comrade.

[euroconv]

Looks like we now know the real reason No 10 wouldn't let Laws onto QT to go head to head with Campbell. None of this anti-BBC nonsense. Laws has been a naughty boy. He's had to say sorry and pay the money back. Egg on face all round for all those spinning "valid" reasons for govt trying to dictate who is allowed on QT. Lots of words to be eaten.

It certainly appears to be a factor, Campbell would have known the score. But No10 could have sent anyone else, so not sure this validates anything.

Looks like what Laws has done is just what every savvy benefits claimants couple is doing up and down the land. Uncle buys two properties, couple and children live apart and get separate benefits to pay both mortgages.

No wonder he's at the treasury if he's that good at theft.