japan birth rate. naaaaaa

[cbathpc]

It's no surprise, sky high taxes, the conventional family under constant attack from politicians, ever increasing costs of childcare, no guarantee you can get into locals schools

Not to mention how many young people are just sat at home in an online world.. many at my work are, and have no interest in changing it. WFH is the worst thing that ever happened to younger people and they don't even realise it

[FallingAwake]

1 hour ago, fellow said:

Also, If the fertility rate is 1.0, the population halves every generation so you eventually end up with no people.

Well, that would be ONE creative way Scotland could leave the UK...

[dugsbody]

1 minute ago, cbathpc said:

WFH is the worst thing that ever happened to younger people and they don't even realise it

Yup, got to keep those young people slaves to the transport companies. Squeeze them into those trains, force them to pay sky high rents so they can live in a commutable area. Need to save the landlords. All for their own good you see.

[cbathpc]

2 minutes ago, dugsbody said:

Yup, got to keep those young people slaves to the transport companies. Squeeze them into those trains, force them to pay sky high rents so they can live in a commutable area. Need to save the landlords. All for their own good you see.

I'm not saying that, however at work all I'm seeing is young people sat at home living with parents, with a life that consists on video games and marvel films.

Having to travel to an office obviously has a cost, but it gets them out into the world and interacting with other people. Can't be all bad

[dugsbody]

1 minute ago, cbathpc said:

I'm not saying that, however at work all I'm seeing is young people sat at home living with parents, with a life that consists on video games and marvel films.

Having to travel to an office obviously has a cost, but it gets them out into the world and interacting with other people. Can't be all bad

Most of them can still do that.

[Casual-observer]

20 minutes ago, dugsbody said:

Most of them can still do that.

But don't. 

Men especially will take the path of least resistance and that'll be sitting in their homes where the internet delivers everything they need. Long term it will cripple society. 

I can see why men increasingly won't do it, the cost of living is ridiculous and the price of failure too high.  

[dugsbody]

3 minutes ago, Casual-observer said:

But don't. 

Men especially will take the path of least resistance and that'll be sitting in their homes where the internet delivers everything they need. Long term it will cripple society. 

I can see why men increasingly won't do it, the cost of living is ridiculous and the price of failure too high.  

I think you guys are just too old and projecting your insecurity about change onto the youngsters.

[AThirdWay]

14 hours ago, jimmy2x3 said:

The birth rate in japan is allways brought up by the media when discussing future societies and the severe implications of it. 

yet infact right here in scotland we have a birthrate that is far lower than japam, its kind of hidden though due to the fact that the scottish fertility rate is the bundled into the uk rate.This masks the fact scotland not japan has the worst birth rate in the world. lets rejoice though its actually rose a little since covid.

i quote 

The fertility rate increased slightly to 1.31 after falling to 1.29 last year, ...   scottish fertility rate

There were only 46,809 births in 2020, which is the lowest number since records began in 1855."

The birth rate has been falling since the early 1960s, when there was more than 100,000 births per year.

Its projection is for Scotland’s population to fall from the current peak of 5.5million to 4.6m, a drop of 900,000 or 16% between 2022 and 2072, with low birth rate the key driver.

 

for the uk as the whole

Year	Fertility Rate	Growth Rate
2023	1.754	0.060%
2022	1.753	0.060%
2021	1.752	0.000%

and finally japans fertility rate 

  20 Dec 2022 — Japan's total fertility rate — the average number of children a woman will bear in her lifetime — was 1.30 in 2021, down 0.03 percentage ...

 

All are falling greater than replacement which is 2.1  however scotlands is falling faster than any other country in the world. even immigration is starting to drop off which was masking the drop and hiding the extreme low fertility rate. 

 

 

 

 

Didn't realise this was the case. Don't really have a reason for you but it's true that my partner and I have had no kids. Mainly for career/lifestyle reasons.

[AThirdWay]

13 hours ago, TerryBoi said:

Not very pretty stats at all.

Didn't realize it was so bad up there.

Why isn't anyone having sexy-time in Scotland?

Looks like a country about to be hollowed out ...

How much is the birth rate supplemented by immigration (both skilled worker and refugee)?

Plenty shagging going on, less impregnation is all...

There has been a fair bit of immigration up here but nothing compared to that in the South. Ironically, I'd bet money that the birth rate of the immigrant population is far higher. Another positive of immigration.

[AThirdWay]

13 hours ago, LivingWithTheInlaws said:

Everyone in Scotland too busy changing their sex every 5 minutes to have babies.

Naw, wir no. Don't believe the MSM.

[AThirdWay]

13 hours ago, Casual-observer said:

The long term consequence of somewhere that just becomes too reliant on public money and not enough private enterprise. 

It's politics just then orbits how much money it can wrangle from Westminster and dangling empty threats about leaving  occasionally.  

A lot of the North sea workers over the years just never settled in Scotland meaning they weren't supporting the local economy there. The public money clearly just couldn't replace the loss of industry.  

The weathers drab, much of the land is bleak so all in all I can see why the population would be falling there. 

There is just too much wrong in this post, the ignorance is overwhelming 😂

[Casual-observer]

4 minutes ago, dugsbody said:

I think you guys are just too old and projecting your insecurity about change onto the youngsters.

What a strange comment.

I'm in my 30's so I'm not ancient either. Personally speaking I just see a hell of a lot of men my age and younger just not participating in society. 

No car, no ambition to learn to drive, no ambition to even try and save for a deposit, no ambition to marry and have kids, very poor people facing skills when they spend a lifetime playing online games. 

Irrespective of a change in attitude in the youth wider society will feel the negative consequences all this brings.

Again, I'm not criticising why they've done it when the basic cost of housing went through the roof but even the BOE are highlighting how badly they're missing the boomers from the workforce. There's a dwindling number of replacements coming behind them.  

[AThirdWay]

12 hours ago, A.steve said:

Is it because every functioning adult in Scotland has already moved to London?

Nope, just the junkies and jakies were shipped off to the smoke 😁👍

[AThirdWay]

11 hours ago, TerryBoi said:

Definitely, I think one of them is lurking on this site.

You're safe chubby chops!

[AThirdWay]

8 hours ago, canbuywontbuy said:

...or identifying as babies.

Ho hum....

[Timm]

1 minute ago, AThirdWay said:

Nope, just the junkies and jakies were shipped off to the smoke 😁👍

I saw that film.

I think they get jobs as estate agents.

[Casual-observer]

7 minutes ago, AThirdWay said:

Plenty shagging going on, less impregnation is all...

There has been a fair bit of immigration up here but nothing compared to that in the South. Ironically, I'd bet money that the birth rate of the immigrant population is far higher. Another positive of immigration.

A plaster over a festering wound 

[Timm]

7 minutes ago, Casual-observer said:

What a strange comment.

I'm in my 30's so I'm not ancient either. Personally speaking I just see a hell of a lot of men my age and younger just not participating in society. 

No car, no ambition to learn to drive, no ambition to even try and save for a deposit, no ambition to marry and have kids, very poor people facing skills when they spend a lifetime playing online games. 

Irrespective of a change in attitude in the youth wider society will feel the negative consequences all this brings.

Again, I'm not criticising why they've done it when the basic cost of housing went through the roof but even the BOE are highlighting how badly they're missing the boomers from the workforce. There's a dwindling number of replacements coming behind them.  

That's odd.

I always assumed you were this chap, but had mislaid your password:

You have the same name, posting style and mindset.

[AThirdWay]

2 hours ago, TenYearToGetMyMoneyBack said:

I was reading through HYS comments when Sturgeon's government introduced a minimum pricing for Alcohol  (50p a unit). Many (presumably from Scotland) were along the lines of "Horrible evil woman taking away Jock's one little pleasure in life". So maybe that answers your question.

You really shouldn't pay much attention to these online comment sections. They are full of bitter little Englanders and Rangers supporters 😂

Minimum pricing was legislated for in 2012, enacted (delayed due to legal challenges) on 2018.

The SNP increased their constituency vote share in both the 2019 general and 2021 Scottish elections.

[AThirdWay]

2 hours ago, regprentice said:

There are no scottish women that look like that - Is that a "before" picture from a methadone clinic pamphlet? 

In reality today shes missing 4 teeth and cuttin aboot on a council estate in a white shellsuit pushing 3 weans in a pram tae primark.

Aye, maybe Isla Bryson is more your style?

[regprentice]

17 minutes ago, AThirdWay said:

Plenty shagging going on, less impregnation is all...

There has been a fair bit of immigration up here but nothing compared to that in the South. Ironically, I'd bet money that the birth rate of the immigrant population is far higher. Another positive of immigration.

the NHS doesnt capture Ethnicity at birth (according to the ONS page on UK births) but the ONS does publish statistics on Fertility on UK residents by County of birth of the mother.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/parentscountryofbirthenglandandwales/2019

The most recent numbers are UK mothers average 1.57 children in a lifetime and Non-UK mothers average 1.97 children in a lifetime. 

Those numbers have fallen by around a quarter across the history of the dataset but the proportion of "extra" births for non UK mothers stays above the UK figure by the same proportion pretty consistently. 

[AThirdWay]

2 hours ago, stuckmojo said:

But once independent they will grow like India, but with Dubai levels of income, won't they? 

 

 

Probably not, more like a resource rich European country that isn't subservient to The City and London.

[AThirdWay]

2 hours ago, onlooker said:

I suspect Scotland (being a mainly white country still) just reflects the birth rate among the white population of the UK. Whereas the England birth rate is bolstered by the high rate among the ethnic minorities, which in many places are becoming majorities.

So the real question is why are white women not having children?

This is a good shout. In my partner's case, she was career focused. 

I'm just too selfish to have kids myself!

[cbathpc]

35 minutes ago, dugsbody said:

I think you guys are just too old and projecting your insecurity about change onto the youngsters.

I'm 35. Perhaps your right, I don't see the same value in online interaction that younger people do. They seem to be happy on discord or talking when playing games. 

However, they're not out there building relationships with people near them. There are a lot less accidental pregnancies, and a lot less deliberate ones. 

As an other poster said, men will often take the path of least resistance, and if you've got games, porn, and food all direct to your bedroom, it's quite easy to never leave.. is that really such a good thing?

[AThirdWay]

2 hours ago, regprentice said:

Except the significant proportion that absolutely despise England and the English. 

My wife has been here 25 years, but is originally fromxford (a rough part, she doesnt sound posh). In any pub after people have had a few drinks it won't take long for someone to start making comments about "the english" to her. 

I had a family friend who refused to ever watch the film Braveheart. She knows how the film ends, She said she wouldn't be able to stop herself hurting the next English person she met if she watched the film.

Previous poster mentioned BBC HYS comments. Go have a read through them, any one of them, and tell me again about the Scots hating the English...

In my direct experience we have no ill will against the English, just sibling rivalry!