longgone Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 hours ago, iamnumerate said: If we didn't give people free money for not working we would be able to afford pensions. it`s unfair and also mental. especially when they have not paid in anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 37 minutes ago, longgone said: it`s unfair and also mental. especially when they have not paid in anything If I went to Romania tomorrow and expected to be provided for by their state. Went into their offices unable to speak their language and demanded it ? I would expect a truncheon around the head. And I would be lucky if that was all I got. The UK has gone beyond soft. We have become a ******ing marshmallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnumerate Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, longgone said: it`s unfair and also mental. especially when they have not paid in anything +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkins Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rent is paid in advance, it isn't credit. Might as well chuck internet shopping, supermarket spending, train and plane tickets, pub and cinema etc on the credit record too - all paid for before the service is received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDI Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dorkins said: Rent is paid in advance, it isn't credit. Might as well chuck internet shopping, supermarket spending, train and plane tickets, pub and cinema etc on the credit record too - all paid for before the service is received. There's a huge difference betwen rent and purchases on credit. You'll have an agreement to pay ren't, whereas you can reduce your shopping bill, or delay the plane ticket purchase if you don't have the money. As others have said the larger problem would be the administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, ccc said: If I went to Romania tomorrow and expected to be provided for by their state. Went into their offices unable to speak their language and demanded it ? I would expect a truncheon around the head. And I would be lucky if that was all I got. The UK has gone beyond soft. We have become a ******ing marshmallow. indeed i tried to claim for jobseekers and was told i was not entitled to anything as i had over 16k in the bank. this was after the 6 month limit. how about some training paid for "NO" you have the means to pay for that yourself. So for my effort of keeping myself out of debt being a good boy and saving my money i have achieved nothing apart from some numbers in a bank account that buys me virtually nothing now due to the bailing and QE of those who treat money like effluent. i paid 2k or more in deductions some months as well. Fortune really does favour the brave. + the benefit claimants reckless morons and anyone else who lives above their means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 5 hours ago, longgone said: it`s unfair and also mental. especially when they have not paid in anything 4 hours ago, ccc said: If I went to Romania tomorrow and expected to be provided for by their state. Went into their offices unable to speak their language and demanded it ? I would expect a truncheon around the head. And I would be lucky if that was all I got. The UK has gone beyond soft. We have become a ******ing marshmallow. Both +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saving For a Space Ship Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 11 hours ago, longgone said: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087857/Romanian-Big-Issue-seller-given-legal-right-claim-housing-benefit.html Nice equivalent of a 37k year job to sell magazines. Why does anyone bother to work ? Not any more ... Judges crack down on poor EU migrants selling The Big Issue to register as self-employed and claim benefits http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4535492/Judges-crack-EU-migrants-selling-Big-Issue.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtickle Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Saving For a Space Ship said: Not any more ... Judges crack down on poor EU migrants selling The Big Issue to register as self-employed and claim benefits http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4535492/Judges-crack-EU-migrants-selling-Big-Issue.html I bet she wishes she hadn't appealed. Because nothing would have changed otherwise! And I bet she'll be popular with all the other claimants too! Quote Her case came to light after she challenged a decision by HM Revenue & Customs to reject her application to begin accessing child benefit. Her status as a self-employed worker allowed her to claim £150 a week in tax credits [£7,800 pa] and have her rent paid in full. But in a ruling last month, Judge Kate Markus QC said the woman’s business was ‘not viable’ – meaning she did not qualify for benefits. Sitting in the Upper Tribunal of the Administrative Chamber, which rules on HMRC decisions, she dismissed the woman’s appeal against the First-Tier Tribunal denying her child benefit. So she started with Tax Credits and Free Rent. She tried to get Child Benefit added on top. They said "no". She stamped her feet and appealed (shocking arrogance) - and for her trouble, lost her Tax Credits and Free Rent? Has this actually happened though? Can this "not viable" ruling be extended to Nail Bar woman who cry on Question Time, please? Surely this is massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, mrtickle said: I bet she wishes she hadn't appealed. Because nothing would have changed otherwise! And I bet she'll be popular with all the other claimants too! So she started with Tax Credits and Free Rent. She tried to get Child Benefit added on top. They said "no". She stamped her feet and appealed (shocking arrogance) - and for her trouble, lost her Tax Credits and Free Rent? Has this actually happened though? Can this "not viable" ruling be extended to Nail Bar woman who cry on Question Time, please? Surely this is massive. a bit like a thief returning to the scene of the crime for a chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 9:50 PM, Saving For a Space Ship said: Not any more ... Judges crack down on poor EU migrants selling The Big Issue to register as self-employed and claim benefits http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4535492/Judges-crack-EU-migrants-selling-Big-Issue.html 5 years to do anything about it. what a wonderful system. i bet it still goes on. i regularly see those roma being picked up in a flash car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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