Guest tbatst2000 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 It's almost as if the Government takes political dissent far more seriously than crime, wouldn't you say? The police certainly do. I blame that b*stard Ian Blair, the sight of him campaigning along NuLab ministers was just appalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Maybe we need to put some students and G20 protestors on the streets to fire the police into action? ...no ..no ...the liberal softies who run this country told the Police not to kettle any more...it's nasty ...and rioters have human rights.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_w_ Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The Police are standing back, in my opinion, because they* want it to get bad. I was wondering about that. They really seem to want the damage to be large as possible which would give the government a great excuse to remove a few more of our liberties. On the other hand they might also simply be overwhelmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbatst2000 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 ...no ..no ...the liberal softies who run this country told the Police not to kettle any more...it's nasty ...and rioters have human rights.... Did they? Either way though, there's no way kettling would work on this lot, they'd break out in seconds (and give the cops a good kicking into the bargain). Kettling only works on people who, basically, accept the police's authority and don't fight back much, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cica Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 You mean the same army that got their asses kicked daily in Northern ireland by teenage kids? Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffy Chuffnell Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I was wondering about that. They really seem to want the damage to be large as possible which would give the government a great excuse to remove a few more of our liberties. On the other hand they might also simply be overwhelmed. I have a feeling it might be the latter. We'll see if tomorrow the Army get called in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbatst2000 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 On the other hand they might also simply be overwhelmed. Possible. They're probably also thinking that since the nasty Tories have told them to cut costs they'd quite like their NuLab friends back in power. It was them after all that never denied the police anything they asked for. Fat lot of good it did mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Gordon Pugh Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I was wondering about that. They really seem to want the damage to be large as possible which would give the government a great excuse to remove a few more of our liberties. On the other hand they might also simply be overwhelmed. Truth is we dont yet know, but we should be vigilant for evidence to analyse their actions in retrospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_w_ Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 That's because the whole thing is staged. This is the second time you write this. I thought you were joking the first time. Why do you say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffy Chuffnell Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Best coverage is on the radio it seems... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_five_live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cica Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 These rumours are rife and 97% BS but there are people claiming things are worse than normal in Liverpool right now http://yfrog.com/h0ch8dpj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authoritarian Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 This is the second time you write this. I thought you were joking the first time. Why do you say this? Because he's a total f*cking prat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentingForever Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Getting slightly annoyed by the reporters excusing the police response because they are "thinly stretched". The Met employs 33,000 police officers - are there 33,000 out on the streets now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athom Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 OH F*CK ME!!! This is way way out of control! watch the link. woah the police are overwhelmed, i'm predicting curfew tomorrow night after watching that. I'm ever more glad i moved out of london, oh yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 This is the second time you write this. I thought you were joking the first time. Why do you say this? Most of the rioters are not from the areas they are trashing. The police are standing back. Emergency measures will be introduced. Problem Reaction Solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuffy Chuffnell Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Getting slightly annoyed by the reporters excusing the police response because they are "thinly stretched". The Met employs 33,000 police officers - are there 33,000 out on the streets now? Most are filling out paperwork. Or are in Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbatst2000 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 This is the second time you write this. I thought you were joking the first time. Why do you say this? Because he's living in a bizarre fantasy world where it's more likely that some shady organisation could, in some implausible fashion, arrange for a bunch of people who can barely tie their own shoelaces to riot simultaneously across thet country than that we just have a vaguely useless police force more interested in stopping and search potential terrorists in business suits at King's Cross (e.g. me) than tackling actual, real, hard-**** thugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Sacks Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Because he's a total f*cking prat? How pleasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Did they? Either way though, there's no way kettling would work on this lot, they'd break out in seconds (and give the cops a good kicking into the bargain). Kettling only works on people who, basically, accept the police's authority and don't fight back much, if at all. ...not so sure...as long as the police didn't hold back on using their long truncheons in the right way and then the rioters would be hemmed (kettled) in for hours ...but at least the current way they are getting conviction by CCTV....not so good for the public property....and possibly public lives if anybody gets caught up in the fires....then it would be murder by arson ...and groups not individuals would be convicted ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Most of the rioters are not from the areas they are trashing. The police are standing back. Emergency measures will be introduced. Problem Reaction Solution Funny how all the rioters are from other areas. They must be from nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tbatst2000 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Because he's a total f*cking prat? Haha, rather more succinct than my explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_w_ Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Quite, the BNP are going to win alot of seats at the next election. Mores the pity. What is more people will get organised tomorrow for the next night. I predict serious violence between the blacks and the browns. The browns hate the blacks and will have no compunction defending their shops and home very strongly. I live in an area with both, I am not making this up, its going to get really really bloody soon. FFS can you at least try to contain your racist inclinations? You could perhaps dig a tiny bit and try to identify the cultural tendencies that might encourage such behaviour. The view that skin colour determines behaviour is simplistic at best, more likely primitive. For your info the only excuse I've heard from one of the looters was 'we're getting our taxes back'. I have no doubt that the young twats dong the looting never paid taxes in their lives but their excuse is certainly very much in line with the majority of moans on hpc. Despite the skin colour difference! How can that be? Come on now, try to be civilised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 ...no ..no ...the liberal softies who run this country told the Police not to kettle any more...it's nasty ...and rioters have human rights.... It's true that the decision would be taken by the Home Secretary - it was Jacqui Smith who decided to make it unpleasant for the G20 protestors. Nothing soft or liberal about that. We are noting the police response, but the fire service hasn't been able to operate effectively either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrieb Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Theresa May: We can cut police budget without risking violent unrest 15 September 2010 Home secretary calls for rational debate over spending cuts and rejects police prediction of a 'Christmas for criminals'The home secretary, Theresa May, has dismissed fears that deep spending cuts could undermine the ability of the police to tackle possible civil unrest, and insisted the British did not respond to austerity by rioting on the streets. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/15/theresa-may-cut-police-budget-without-violent-unrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authoritarian Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) How pleasant Nope, tough love. You're talking balls and King Bingo had the courtesy to let you know. Edited August 8, 2011 by Authoritarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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