muggle Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Immigration rules are a drain on the country, says Judge Ian Trigger Judge Ian Trigger has described Britain’s immigration system as “completely lax†and claimed it partly contributed to rising national debt. In remarks made while sentencing an illegal immigrant for drugs offences, Judge Trigger told Liverpool Crown Court that “hundreds and hundreds of thousands†of illegal immigrants were abusing Britain’s border controls. He said this was “creating an enormous strain on resources†as they exploited Britain’s generous welfare system. The result, he said, was a growing hole in the public finances. Judge Trigger made the comments as he jailed Lucien McClearley, 31, from Jamaica, for two years. McClearley was arrested after police discovered bags of cannabis in his car in Liverpool on Feb 15. A search of the house where McClearley was staying revealed more than £7,200 worth of cannabis. Judge Trigger told him: “Your case illustrates all too clearly the completely lax immigration policy that exists ... in this country. “People like you, and there are literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people like you, come to these shores from foreign countries to avail themselves of the generous welfare benefits that exist here. Source He has made his views clear on immigration and the welfare system very clear. However, he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention the parasites at the other end of the scale. Views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 SourceHe has made his views clear on immigration and the welfare system very clear. However, he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention the parasites at the other end of the scale. Views? Never been fond of Jamaican dope, bit too heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 judge Trigger, heard him on the radio once, sounded a little horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankster Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 It is not the place of judges to express opinions on immigration control. Their job is to make legal judgements based on existing laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 First thought is that he should get on with his role in the judiciary and leave politics to the executive. That said, it doesn't do any harm to let the politicians know what their decisions mean at the sharp end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearback Mountain Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Perhaps Judge Ian Trigger is guilty of being annoyed at having so many "Illegals" pass through his court wasting tax payers resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spaniard Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 judge Trigger, heard him on the radio once, sounded a little horse. Yes, he was telling about his volatile German cousin, Herr Trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 It is not the place of judges to express opinions on immigration control. Their job is to make legal judgements based on existing laws. Yes, he should be reigned in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Yes, he was telling about his volatile German cousin, Herr Trigger. Respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy-old-man-returns Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Yes, he was telling about his volatile German cousin, Herr Trigger. that one will take some beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Well done Judge. Time people in authority spoke out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happy? Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 SourceHe has made his views clear on immigration and the welfare system very clear. However, he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention the parasites at the other end of the scale. Views? Sounds as though he'd been gunning for him - clearly had him in his sights from the beginning. Obviously had him over a double-barrel, and used his complete arsenal when it came to the sentence. I don't agree with his politics and will fire off a complaint. It's quite possible that they guy will get off on appeal because of the judge's comments and he'll then be seen to have shot himself in the foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Sounds as though he'd been gunning for him - clearly had him in his sights from the beginning. Obviously had him over a double-barrel, and used his complete arsenal when it came to the sentence. I don't agree with his politics and will fire off a complaint. It's quite possible that they guy will get off on appeal because of the judge's comments and he'll then be seen to have shot himself in the foot. i think we'll see more on the news bulletin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wires 74 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I don't agree with his politics and will fire off a complaint. For goodness sake ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoWolves Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I don't agree with his politics and will fire off a complaint. So its more migrant criminals living on British state benefits for you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Methinks a couple of you missed the punning in happy?'s post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Respect, M'Lud! He obviously lost it and went off on a rant, but he's right - the government have lost control of the borders, surely one of the most fundamental duties of any government is control over access to the country. We shouldn't be giving asylum-seekers the time of day, let alone 5 years worth of appeals and due process. They could ALL find safe haven closer to home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdman Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Hyperbole doesn't help Hundreds and hundreds of thousands... He may be right, but his point would have been far more powerfully made if he stuck to facts: "X % of the people found guilty of criminal offences in my court were immigrants costing the UK taxpayer £YM" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPC001 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Yes, he should have stuck to precise figures. But the sentiment is understandable regardless - there is uncontrolled immigration and *why do* so many people cross large tracts of Europe to get here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wires 74 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) Respect, M'Lud!We shouldn't be giving asylum-seekers the time of day, let alone 5 years worth of appeals and due process. But after 5 years the kids are settled in school , the wifes the cleaner at the local hospital and the blokes a pillar of the church whilst the vicar is petitioning the village to overturn the inhumane deportation of this lovely family ... Edited July 29, 2009 by Wires 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happy? Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Methinks a couple of you missed the punning in happy?'s post. Indeed. Taking fire from all sides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grime- skint wouldbe ftb Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I can't believe it, someone in a position of authority has stepped out of line with his Orwellian masters and is saying what everyone else is thinking about the realities of Britain after 5 decades of mass 3rd world immigration. Don't worry, normal service will be resumed shortly, hopefully he will be replaced with a 100% Guardianista-certified ethnic model, with the political correctness upgrade fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Over Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 It isn't hyperbole, it's an understatement He should have said millions. The Government has pumped hundreds of billions of pounds into the system just to keep it staggering on until the next election, after that all bets are off and the Sh*t will really hit the fan. Things are going to get really, really nasty in the UK and Europe IMHO and once again it will be the fault of bleeding heart liberals and Socialists. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. 2007 was 1929 2009 is 1931 The Euro and the EU are doomed The clock is ticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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