Peter Hun Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 It's swine flu, whcih is as lethal as flu, but has swine in front of it. You mean the same as Avian flu, kills 50% of those infected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Good plan, most decking looks cheap. good for rats though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stars Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I can't see why one flu strain would be more likely to mutate into something nasty than any other (from our perspective) and yet this is cited as the reason for paying special attention to this strain and being alarmed by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinceBalls Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Cashinmattress, I think you need some new batteries for your brain, pal!Nobody has died from the recession but there have been 29 swine flu related deaths in UK now. Actually, poverty causes more deaths than anything else. So recessions kill a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I can't see why one flu strain would be more likely to mutate into something nasty than any other (from our perspective) and yet this is cited as the reason for paying special attention to this strain and being alarmed by it. This flu is tied to real estate. It's evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minos Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Actually, poverty causes more deaths than anything else. So recessions kill a lot of people. This is a depression, not a recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stars Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 This flu is tied to real estate. It's evil. Frankly, i really can't see the flu being so destructive that the two diseases warrant being connected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Here's the data on waves of mortality for previous influenza pandemics. The_Signature_Features_of_Influenza_Pandemics_______Implications_for_Policy.pdf The_Signature_Features_of_Influenza_Pandemics_______Implications_for_Policy.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thod Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I know that if I get it I won't be rushing to hospital. I shall sit at home with a blanket and a paracetamol. We have no idea how many have it or have had it. What we do know is how many have died and can compare that seasonal flu. Overall it seems milder to me, certainly not a black death. The problem with mutation to something worse theories is they lack a mechanism for spreading it. If someone is on their back at death's door they are not out and about spreading it to others. Viral infections become milder with time since they require the host to contact others and this favours milder strains. I tend to agree that this is an induced panic to keep something more important from the headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piece of paper Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Cancer kills around 150,000 people each year.Smoking kills around 120,000 people each year. Pneumonia kills around 15,000 people each year. Alcohol kills around 9,000 people each year. Cars kill around 3,500 people each year. Asthma kills around 1,500 people each year. Murders kill around 1,200 people each year. Common flu kills around 400 people each year. Swine flu deaths...29. Meh! Could you do a Venn diagram? There might be some overlaps. p-o-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I know that if I get it I won't be rushing to hospital. I shall sit at home with a blanket and a paracetamol. We have no idea how many have it or have had it. What we do know is how many have died and can compare that seasonal flu. Overall it seems milder to me, certainly not a black death.The problem with mutation to something worse theories is they lack a mechanism for spreading it. If someone is on their back at death's door they are not out and about spreading it to others. Viral infections become milder with time since they require the host to contact others and this favours milder strains. I tend to agree that this is an induced panic to keep something more important from the headlines. Containment is a strategy, but it doesn't work very well, how many coughs would you need to spread the virus? Here's another couple of papers, including the statistics from the Mexican outbreak. Pneumonia_and_Respiratory_Failure_from__Swine_Origin_Influenza_A__H1N1__in_Mexico.pdf Severe_Respiratory_Disease_Concurrent___with_the_Circulation_of_H1N1_Influenza.pdf Note the age groups which have highest mortality. Pneumonia_and_Respiratory_Failure_from__Swine_Origin_Influenza_A__H1N1__in_Mexico.pdf Severe_Respiratory_Disease_Concurrent___with_the_Circulation_of_H1N1_Influenza.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Containment is a strategy, but it doesn't work very well, how many coughs would you need to spread the virus?Here's another couple of papers, including the statistics from the Mexican outbreak. Pneumonia_and_Respiratory_Failure_from__Swine_Origin_Influenza_A__H1N1__in_Mexico.pdf Severe_Respiratory_Disease_Concurrent___with_the_Circulation_of_H1N1_Influenza.pdf Note the age groups which have highest mortality. You know, I feel better about being 60 now. Free bus pass, free swine flu pass ... ps: I hear Cancun's quite cheap at the moment ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DissipatedYouthIsValuable Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 You know, I feel better about being 60 now. Free bus pass, free swine flu pass ... ps: I hear Cancun's quite cheap at the moment ... If you had the 1957 strain of H1N1 you might also have the benefit of immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 The sample's so small I don't know it can be assumed certain ages are safer. May be higher mortality rates among younger people because they're more mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 The sample's so small I don't know it can be assumed certain ages are safer. May be higher mortality rates among younger people because they're more mobile. I get around. Plus note the peak above 75 yrs of age. 60 - 65 is def. the safest place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOP Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Containment is a strategy, but it doesn't work very well, how many coughs would you need to spread the virus?Here's another couple of papers, including the statistics from the Mexican outbreak. Pneumonia_and_Respiratory_Failure_from__Swine_Origin_Influenza_A__H1N1__in_Mexico.pdf Severe_Respiratory_Disease_Concurrent___with_the_Circulation_of_H1N1_Influenza.pdf Note the age groups which have highest mortality. Thanks DYIV. There are 269 US media reported deaths now. Look at the ages on this from yesterday, about 95% under 65 years old: Confirmed U.S. Deaths - Details updated 7/15/09Arizona: 11 #1 Maricopa County female in her late 40's, died week of 5/3 reported 5/14/09 *lung condition #2 Pinal County, Gila River Reservation 57 year old female, died 5/10/09 reported 5/19/09 *unspecified pre-existing conditions, compromised immune system #3 Pima County, Tuscon 13 year old boy, Johnny Ruiz Cotter died 5/15/09 reported 5/20/09 *severe medical conditions, cerebral palsy #4 Pima County 10 year old female, died 5/17/09 reported 5/27/09 #5 Pinal County 64 year old female, died week of 5/24/09 reported 6/4/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #6 No location given, 6th death in the state, unidentified person 25 to 64 years old, reported 6/10/09 by AZ DHS #7 No location given, 7th death in the state, unidentified person 0-4 years old, reported 6/18/09 by AZ DHS #8 No location given, 8th death in the state, unidentified person 25-64 years old, reported 6/24/09 by AZ DHS #9 Cuchino County, adolescent boy reported 6/26/09 *hospitalized in Flagstaff, died week of 6/26, tested H1N1 positive postmortem #10 Pinal County, 7 year old boy died week of 6/26 reported 6/30/09 *underlying health conditions, being treated in a local hospital at the time of his death #11 no location, 11th death in the state, unidentified person reported 7/7/09 by AZ DHS California: 39 #1 San Bernadino County male in his 40's, died mid May reported 6/1/09 *pneumonia, heart disease, high blood pressure, obesity, died at home #2 Los Angeles County, middle aged female, died late May reported 6/1/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #3 Contra Costa County, Concord 9 year old girl, Karen Perez died 5/29/09 reported 6/4/09 *secondary bacterial infection, previously healthy #4 Orange County middle aged male, reported 6/8/09 *unspecified pre-existing conditions #5 Alameda County middle aged male, died 6/10/09 reported 6/11/09 *unspecified chronic conditions #6 Alameda County middle aged male, reported 6/9/09 *unspecified chronic conditions #7 San Diego County, San Marcos, 20 year old woman, Adela Chevalier, reported 6/16/09 *healthy, not a student and had not recently traveled, slight fever 6/13, respiratory symptoms 6/14, went to ER 6/15, died within 24 hours from respiratory complications without leaving ER, confirmed with H1N1 6/16 #8 Contra Costa County, middle aged man died in June reported 6/17/09 *no other health conditions, no known connection with the other Contra Costa death #9 San Mateo County, middle aged woman reported 6/22/09 *underlying heart and lung conditions, "This individual could easily have died if she just got seasonal flu" - Chief Health Officer Scott Morrow #10 Sacramento County, 24 year old woman Beth Kizere, died 6/23/09 reported 6/23/09 *overweight with allergies, asthma suspected, mother described her as otherwise "healthy, robust, energetic", instead of describing her weight as an "underlying condition" the hospital stated that the weight helped sustain her through her illness, Beth became sick on a trip to Las Vegas, started with a dry scratchy cough and fluctuating temperature, no medical insurance, did not seek care right away, sought care when fever reached 104 deg., hospitalized 6/13, initially suspected to have pneumonia, H1N1 confirmed 6/17 #11 Contra Costa, middle aged man, died in June reported 6/25/09 #12 Los Angeles, unidentified person reported 6/25/09 and again 7/8/09 *underlying medical condition Is this Cristian Torres Rodriguez ?? #13 Orange County, unidentified person, reported 6/25/09 #14 Orange County, unidentified person, reported 6/25/09 #15 Sonoma County, elderly man died 6/19/09 reported 6/19/09 *multiple underlying chronic conditions, hospitalized 1 week before he died #16 San Mateo, died 6/22/09 reported 6/25/09 *obese, had a lung condition which may have contributed to his death, H1N1 confirmed 6/25 postmortem #17 Solano County, 53 year old man reported 6/25/09 *healthy, California's 17th death #18 San Diego County, Spring Valley, 49 year old woman Alejandra R. Gonzalez, died 6/23/09 reported 6/29/09 *considerable underlying conditions, hospitalized 6/23, had suffered nausea and vomiting for a few days, H1N1 postive postmortem 6/29, contributing conditions: ARDS; Acute renal tubular necrosis; Cirrhosis #19 San Diego County, 75 year old man died 6/28/09 reported 6/29/09 *considerable underlying conditions, admitted to ER 6/21, H1N1 postive postmortem 6/29 #20 Marin County, 33 year old woman died 6/30/09 reported 7/1/09 *pre-existing medical conditions, became ill approx. 6/17, hospitalized 6/20, given Tamiflu, when her condition worsened transferred from Marin County to an Alameda County hospital, where she then died, H1N1 confirmed 6/30 #21 San Mateo County, unidentified person reported 7/2/09 by CA DPH #22 Orange County, unidentified person reported 7/2/09 by CA DPH #23 Orange County, unidentified person reported 7/2/09 by CA DPH #24 Santa Clara County, 44 year old woman first reported 7/2/09 by CA DPH press release 7/7/09 *underlying health problems #25 Stanislaus County, 21 year old woman Rosario Rivera died 7/1/09 reported 7/6/09 *diabetes, went to the hospital 6/26 with severe headache and stomach pain, breathing became labored, moved to ICU put on a ventilator, condition steadily declined until she died, initially her death was recorded as "pneumonia caused by an unknown organism", H1N1 confirmed postmortem, family was notified 7/6, over 100 people visited her in the hospital and none were ever informed by the doctors about potential H1N1 exposure #26 San Diego County, 50 year old woman died 6/29/09 reported 7/7/09 #27 Alameda County, unidentified person reported 7/7/09 by Alameda County Health Department #28 Alameda County, unidentified person reported 7/7/09 by Alameda County Health Department #29 Los Angeles County, unidentified woman reported 7/8/09 *pregnant, baby survived #30 Monterey County, unidentified man died in June, reported 7/9/09 *Serious underlying medical conditions caused high risk of severe disease, compromised immune system, officials stress "age was not a factor in his death," hospitalized at time of death #31 San Diego County, 36 year old man reported 7/9/09 *underlying health issues #32 Santa Cruz, middle aged woman died 7/7/09 reported 7/9/09 *in good health until she became ill will flu, had asthma which was described as "underlying health conditions which put her at risk for severe illness," hospitalized around 7/1 after coming to the ER with severe flu symptoms, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 7/9 by CA state, initial tests conducted by the county could not ID #33 San Mateo County, unidentified person reported 7/9/09 by CA DPH website #34 San Francisco, unidentified person reported 7/9/09 by CA DPH website #35 Sacramento, unidentified person reported 7/9/09 by CA DPH website #36 San Diego County, 57 year old man died 7/2/09 reported 7/13/09 *underlying health conditions #37 San Diego County, 64 year old man died 7/9/09? reported 7/13/09 *underlying health conditions #38 Contra Costa County, elderly woman died 7/8/09 reported 7/13/09 *pre-existing health conditions #39 Contra Costa County, Antioch 30 year old woman died 7/13/09 reported 7/13/09 *fighting a second bout of leukemia, while hospitalized for cancer she became ill with H1N1 Connecticut: 7 #1 Waterbury female over 60, reported 6/3/09 *underlying health conditions including diabetes #2 Waterbury 6 year old child, reported 6/11/09 *serious pulmonary condition, out of school all year #3 Waterbury female in her 40's, died 6/15/09 reported 6/15/09 *unspecified health conditions which lowered her immune response, came to the hospital with respiratory symptoms only, possibly incubating the virus, developed flu symptoms later #4 Hartford County, unidentifed person in their 40's died 6/17/09 reported 6/18/09 *unspecified health problems #5 Hartford County, unidentified 50-59 year old person reported 6/23/09 *unspecified underlying condition known to shorten life span, hospitalized 6/13 with fever and respiratory symptoms, died of respiratory failure #6 Waterbury, 40-49 year old man reported 6/29/09 *unspecified underlying conditions, recently hospitalized #7 no location, unidentified person reported 7/15/09 on CT DOH website Florida: 13 #1 Miami-Dade County, 9 year old boy Luis Alexandro Munoz, died 6/9/09 reported 6/16/09 *suffered from asthma, family was unaware of asthma until it was announced after his death, hospitalized 6/8 within 24 hours of developing flu symptoms, and died the next day, died 4 days after he was last in school, H1N1 confirmed 1 week postmortem #2 Central Florida, 30 year old woman died 6/23/09 reported 6/24/09 *unspecified respiratory condition, possibly also pregnant?, considered "high risk," hospitalized earlier in June #3 Broward County, Davie 58 year old man Michael Waldfogel died 6/24/09 reported 7/1/09 *chronic heart problem, symptomatic mid-June, doctor sent him home with flu medicine, last seen 6/20, found dead in his home 4 days later, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/30 #4 Miami-Dade County, 31 year old woman reported 7/2/09 #5 Miami-Dade County, 63 year old man reported 7/2/09 #6 Orange County, 19 year old woman, tourist from Pennsylvania, reported 7/7/09 *visiting central FL and hospitalized in Orlando prior to her death at Florida Hospital #7 Volusa County, 55 year old man died 6/23/09 reported 6/24/09, confirmed case of H1N1, hospitalized for several weeks, hospital claims his death was caused by a pre-existing chronic illness, H1N1 confirmed as cause of death 7/15/09 #8 Palm Beach County, 25 year old woman died 6/27/09 reported 7/9/09 *pregnant, reported by officials in the following way: "there were other circumstances... other things going on with this individual", the baby survived #9 Duval County, Jacksonville 55 year old man died 7/1/09 reported 7/9/09 *chronic lung disease, H1N1 confirmed postmortem #10 Miami-Dade County, 51 year old man reported 7/10/09 #11 Miami-Dade County, 53 year old woman reported 7/10/09 #12 Orange County, 41 year old woman reported 7/13/09 #13 Dade County, 53 year old woman, sixth death in Dade County, reported 7/14/09 Georgia: 1 #1 Cobb County, 43 year old woman reported 7/10/09 *underlying conditions Hawaii: 2 #1 Honolulu, woman in her late 60's died 6/19/09 reported 6/29/09 *multiple serious health issues, contracted pneumonia as a complication, affiliated with the military but not on active duty, died at Tripler Army Medical Center, Hawaii DOH claims H1N1 not the primary cause of death #2 Honolulu, man in his 40's died 7/10/09 reported 7/10/09 *chronic underlying health conditions, hospitalized and died at Queen's Medical Center, no recent history of travel outside of Hawaii Illinois: 14 #1 Chicago 22 year old male, died 5/24/09 reported 5/25/09 *unspecified underlying condition #2 Cook County, Chicago adult female, reported 5/27/09 *unspecified significant medical conditions #3 Kane County 42 year old male, reported 5/28/09 *unspecified chronic conditions #4 Chicago 20 year old woman, Caitlin Huber died 5/30/09 reported 6/2/09 *pregnant #5 Lake County, Gurnee 74 year old male, died 6/2/09 reported 6/4/09 *unspecified significant medical conditions #6 Chicago, 26 year old woman Edriana Ramirez, died 6/9/09 reported 6/17/09 *healthy, hospitalized 1 week #7 Chicago, 52 year old man died 6/11/09 reported 6/17/09 *had other unspecified health problems, hospitalized 5/30/09 #8 Cook County, 8 year old suburban Chicago boy Mark Dampier Jr., resident of Oak Forest, died 6/13/09 reported 6/17/09 *no known health problems, became ill 6/11/09 #9 Cook County, Western Springs 29 year old woman reported 6/18/09 *other health problems #10 Cook County, Mount Prospect 29 year old man reported 6/18/09 *other health problems #11 La Salle County, 18 year old woman reported 6/19/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #12 Chicago, 54 year old woman died 6/10/09 reported 6/26/09 *unspecified medical problems, hospitalized 6/2 #13 Chicago, 47 year old woman died 6/23/09 reported 6/26/09 *healthy, hospitalized 6/20 #14 no location, unidentified person reported 7/10/09 by IL DPH Indiana: 1 #1 Dearborn County, 19 year old Matt McIntosh died 7/5/09 first reported 7/7/09 *healthy, started feeling ill 2 weeks before he died, coughing up blood, died of double pneumonia and kidney failure, confirmed H1N1 postmortem on 7/10, passed it to his sister Mindy McIntosh who at this time is hospitalized in critical condition with the same symptoms, and also to his bandmate Kristine Spielmann and her sister Regina Spielmann, who were both briefly hospitalized, and to his father, current status unknown Maryland: 2 #1 Baltimore metro area, unidentified elderly woman reported 6/23/09 *unspecified serious underlying medical condition #2 Baltimore metro area, person under 65 reported 7/8/09 *serious underlying medical condition that contributed to the death Massachusetts: 6 #1 Boston 30 year old woman, died 6/14/09 reported 6/15/09 *no underlying conditions, became ill 6/5/09, hospitalized 6/10/09 #2 Boston, 84 year old man, died 6/18/09 reported 6/29/09 *hospitalized 6/12, confirmed H1N1 postmortem 6/29 #3 Massachusetts - Boston, 52 year old man died 6/26 reported 7/1/09 *died at his home, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 7/1 #4 Massachusetts - Boston, 30 year old man died 6/29/09 reported 7/1/09 *hospitalized 6/15, probable case of H1N1, confirmation pending from CDC #5 Worcester, 13 year old boy died 7/8/09 first reported 7/11/09 *serious underlying medical conditions that made him more susceptible to H1N1 complications, "persistent health problems", may have been living in a healthcare facility outside the city, first hospitalized with flu symptoms at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield, a day or two later transferred to UMass Memorial Medical Center where he died, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 7/13 #6 Worcester, 64 year old man reported 7/13/09 *had "a series of underlying health conditions," unrelated to #5 Michigan: 8 #1 Warren/Macomb 53 year old woman, Reva Miller died 6/1/09 reported 6/3/09 *asthma, possibly infected at hospital #2 Roscommon County 58 year old male, died 6/4/09 reported 6/11/09 *unspecified chronic conditions #3 Macomb County, Madison Heights police officer Ryan Settlemoir, 28 year old man, airlifted to hospital with severe flu symptoms died Thursday 6/11/09 reported 6/12/09 *had asthma and hypertension, but family says overall was healthy, suffered multiple organ failure, Legionnaires’ disease ruled out, H1N1 confirmed as cause of death 6/18/09, from CDC MMWR: "asthma, presentation: High fever, cough, sore throat that progressed to blood-tinged sputum, decreasing mental status, BMI 34.2" #4 Detroit, 44-year-old man died 6/15/09 reported 6/18/09 *From CDC MMWR: "fever, productive cough with black/red sputum, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea BMI 50.2" #5 Macomb County, 63-year-old woman died 6/17/09 reported 6/18/09 #6 Detroit/Oakland County?, unidentified person reported 6/20/09 on Michigan DCH website #7 Oakland County, 43 year old man died 6/20/09 reported 6/20/09 on Michigan DCH website *From CDC MMWR: "no pre-existing conditions, presentation: Fever, cough, malaise, chills, sweats, BMI 48.7" #8 Oakland County, man in his 50's died early week of 7/8/09 reported 7/8/09 on Michigan DCH website *underlying health conditions, spent 3 weeks hospitalized Minnesota: 3 #1 Minneapolis 5 year old girl died week of 6/12/09, reported 6/15/09 *special-needs pre-K student, born with a genetic condition that left her medically fragile with a suppressed immune system, required a tracheotomy until age 4, flu caused respiratory distress, briefly hospitalized and died the next day #2 Twin Cities area, elderly person reported 7/8/09 *underlying medical problems, hospitalized #3 Twin Cities area, child reported 7/8/09 *extensive bacterial co-infection Missouri: 1 #1 St. Louis County 44 year old male, died 5/19/09 reported 5/19/09 *healthy Nebraska: 1 #1 Custer County, woman in her 50's died week of 7/10/09 reported 7/15/09 *several chronic underlying health conditions such as heart disease and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease Nevada: 3 #1 Las Vegas, 71 year old New York woman died while visiting family in Las Vegas, reported 6/12/09 *unspecified underlying conditions. #2 Clark County, 33 year old man John Talley died 6/28/09 reported 6/29/09 *healthy, no underlying conditions, at first diagnosed with food poisoning, sick for more than a week before he went to the ER, first 4 H1N1 tests including rapid flu test came back negative, hospitalized 6/15, "critically ill almost from the first day," H1N1 treatment started the day he was hospitalized, given tamiflu/ventilator, according to his friend and roommate he did not respond to the tamiflu, H1N1 confirmation came 2 days before he died with a Polymerase Chain Reaction test #3 Clark County, 51 year old man died 7/3/09 reported 7/6/09 *underlying medical condition, hospitalized 6/25 New Jersey: 14 #1 Essex County, West Orange, 49 year old man Michael Reiser died 6/13/09 reported 6/15/09 *unspecified multiple underlying conditions, became ill 5/30/09, hospitalized with pneumonia 6/2/09, diagnosed H1N1 postmortem #2 Somerset County, 15 year old boy, died 6/8/09 reported 6/17/09 *died at home after developing symptoms that included fever, vomiting, coughing and congestion, was last in school 6/5 with no symptoms, diagnosed H1N1 postmortem #3 Sussex County, 10 year old boy died 6/18/09 reported 6/18/09 *unspecified underlying conditions, became ill 6/12, hospitalized 6/14 with cough and fever, last in school 6/11 with no symptoms, H1N1 confirmed 6/18 #4 Union County, 36 year old man died 6/3/09 reported 6/19/09 *underlying conditions, hospitalized 6/1/09 with cough and fever, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/19/09 #5 Hudson County, 79 year old woman died 6/19/09 reported 6/23/09 *underlying medical conditions, became ill 6/15, hospitalized same day with cough and fever, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/23 #6 Bergen County, woman in her 40s, reported 6/24/09 on NJ DOH website *unspecified underlying condition #7 Middlesex County, Piscataway 44 year old man died 6/27/09 reported 7/1/09 *multiple underlying medical conditions, died at JFK Hospital in Edison #8 Ocean County, Jackson Township, 6 year old boy Zachary Martinez, student at Lucy N. Holman Elementary, died 6/27/09 reported 7/1/09 *unspecified underlying medical conditions, hospitalized 6/25/09 #9 Union County, 54 year old man, reported 7/1/09 NJ DOH *underlying conditions #10 Camden County, 30 year old woman died 7/1/09 reported 7/8/09 *underlying medical conditions #11 Ocean County, middle aged person reported 7/14/09 *severe underlying health conditions #12 Middlesex County, unidentified person reported 7/15/09 on NJ DOH website #13 Monmouth County, unidentified person reported 7/15/09 on NJ DOH website #14 Union County, unidentified person reported 7/15/09 on NJ DOH website New York: 65 #1 NYC, Queens 55 year old man, Mitchell Weiner died 5/17/09 reported 5/18/09 *gout, high blood pressure, family says he was healthy, suffered kidney failure #2 NYC, Queens 55 year old woman, Danita Lee died 5/23/09 reported 5/24/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #3 NYC, Brooklyn 34 year old male, died 5/22/09 reported 5/26/09 *unspecified underlying condition, not hospitalized #4 NYC, Queens 41 year old female, died 5/22/09 reported 5/26/09 *unspecified underlying condition, not hospitalized #5 NYC Bronx 11 week old child, Steven Montanez died 5/28/09 reported 6/1/09 *found unconscious at home #6 Onondaga County adult, died 6/2/09 reported 6/3/09 *unspecified underlying condition #7 NYC unidentified person early-mid 40's, reported 6/3/09 #8 NYC unidentified person early-mid 40's, reported 6/3/09 #9 NYC unidentified person over 65, reported 6/5/09 *unspecified underlying complications #10 NYC unidentified person over 50, reported 6/8/09 *unspecified underlying condition #11 Onondaga County, Syracuse unidentified adult, reported 6/9/09 *unspecified underlying condition #12 NYC unidentified person over 65, reported 6/10/09 #13 NYC unidentified person in their 50's, reported 6/10/09 #14 NYC unidentified person in their 30's, reported 6/10/09 #15 NYC unidentified person in their 30's, reported 6/11/09 #16 NYC Brooklyn 11 year old girl, Sarah Michel reported 6/11/09 *heart defect #17 NYC child under 2 years, reported 6/11/09 Could be Jonathan Zamora Castillo, 16 month old suspected death #11 #18 Westchester County, Yonkers 29 year old female, died 6/9/09 reported 6/11/09 *unspecified underlying condition #19 NYC unidentified person in their 40's, reported 6/12/09 #20 Suffolk County, Brookhaven 35-45 year old man, died 6/10/09 reported 6/15/09 *unspecified serious, chronic medical condition, including pneumonia, hospitalized two weeks, unrelated to #21 #21 Suffolk County, Brookhaven 55-65 year old woman, died 6/9/09 reported 6/15/09 *underlying medical problems, ill on 6/6/09, treated by a doctor for respiratory infection, said she felt better, died same day, unrelated to #20 #22 Nassau County, woman in her 20's died 6/16/09 reported 6/16/09 *pregnant, hospitalized 6/5 with fever and respiratory symptoms, delivered a healthy baby by C-section 6/5, transferred to ICU 6/7, confirmed with H1N1 6/15 #23 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #24 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #25 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #26 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #27 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #28 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #29 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #30 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #31 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #32 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #33 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #34 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #35 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #36 NYC unidentified person between 26 and 64 years old, reported 6/19/09 *hospitalized in late May #37 Erie County, Buffalo, 15 year old boy Matthew Davis died 6/20/09 reported 6/20/09 *healthy, complained of a headache 6/12, conditioned worsened over the weekend, hospitalized 6/15 given antibiotic and released, 6/16 vomiting/dizziness/leg condition, hospitalized again 6/17, toward the end placed on life support, died 6/20 from complications of swine flu including pneumonia and MRSA, kidneys failed #38 NYC unidentified person 25-65 years old reported 6/23/09 #39 NYC unidentified person 25-65 years old reported 6/23/09 #40 Westchester County, Yonkers 26 year old woman died 6/23/09 reported 6/24/09 *hospitalized 6/14, medical examiner and death certificate both list "Swine flu" as cause of death, Westchester County Health Department needs more info to confirm or deny #41 Erie County, Buffalo 9 year old girl Maya Harden died 6/27/09 reported 6/27/09 *healthy with no severe health issues, went to ER with flu symptoms 6/12, diagnosed with pneumonia and sent home, hospitalized again 6/14 for an overnight and sent home, hospitalized final time 6/16, contracted MRSA and pneumonia, critical condition for 2 weeks, on life support for 11 days before she died #42 Suffolk County, Babylon, unidentified man 65-75 years old died 6/29/09 reported 6/29/09 *serious underlying medical condition, multiple medical problems, hospitalized since early June, confirmed H1N1 earlier in the month #43 Suffolk County, Smithtown man 45-55 years old died 6/30/09 reported 6/30/09 *multiple acute and chronic medical problems, hospitalized since mid-June #44 Orange County, Newburgh 32 year old woman died 6/23/09 reported 7/1/09 *no known contact with NY #51, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/30 #45 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #46 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #47 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #48 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #49 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #50 NYC, unidentified person 25-65 reported 7/1/09 by NYC DOH #51 Orange County, Newburgh 37 year old woman reported 7/1/09 *no underlying medical conditions, 2nd Orange County death, no known contact with NY #44, symptomatic 6/16, hospitalized 6/22 #52 Suffolk County, Babylon woman 55-65 years old died 7/4/09 reported 7/6/09 *multiple underlying medical problems, hospitalized 6/6, H1N1 confirmed 6/23 #53 Nassau County, unidentified minor died 7/1/09 reported 7/7/09 *multiple underlying medical conditions, hospitalized 6/25 with fever and respiratory symptoms #54 Oneida County, adolescent reported 7/9/09 *asthma, being treated at SUNY Upstate in Syracuse at the time of death #55 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #56 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #57 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #58 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #59 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #60 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #61 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #62 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #63 NYC unidentified person reported 7/9/09 #64 Suffolk County, Brookhaven woman between 40-50 years old died 7/12/09 reported 7/14/09 *underlying medical condition, first experienced symptoms 6/18, hospitalized 6/25 #65 Onondaga County, unidentified person 3rd in county reported 7/15/09 North Carolina: 2 #1 Guilford County, Greensboro adult man died 6/19/09 reported 6/24/09 *had recently had a heart procedure at Moses Cone Hospital, was discharged in improving condition with no signs of influenza, several days later admitted to Wesley Long Hospital in critical condition with severe pneumonia, died hours later in ICU, tested positive for H1N1 postmortem # 2 Guilford County, Greensboro, unidentified adult man died 6/26/09 reported 6/26/09 *pre-existing medical conditions, being treated in hospital for asthma complications before H1N1 diagnosis, infected a respiratory therapist who later exposed 33 infants at Woman's Hospital Ohio: 1 #1 Butler County, Hamilton 46 year old man died 6/29/09 reported 7/2/09 *unspecified health problems which may have contributed to his death, first experienced symptoms 6/21, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 7/2 Oklahoma: 1 #1 Kay County 43 year old male, reported 6/8/09 *underlying conditions including asthma, not hospitalized Oregon: 4 #1 Marion County adult female, died 6/7/09 reported 6/8/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #2 Marion County, child younger than 5 died 5/16/09 reported 6/23/09 *no underlying medical conditions, 2 days of fever, not hospitalized #3 Multnomah County, unidentified adult 25-64 years old reported 6/26/09 by CDC #4 Multnomah County, unidentified adult 25-64 years old reported 7/2/09 by OR DHS Pennsylvania: 7 #1 Berks County 55 year old female, reported 6/4/09 *asthma, diabetes #2 Philadelphia 26 year old female, died 6/7/09 reported 6/8/09 #3 Pike County 48 year old woman died 6/14/09 reported 6/15/09 *unspecified underlying condition, hospitalized and died at Bon Secours Hospital in Port Jervis, NY #4 Philadelphia, middle aged person (man?) reported 6/25/09 *underlying condition, H1N1 confirmed postmortem late week of 6/26 #5 Philadelphia, middle aged person (woman?) reported 6/30/09 *underlying condition, H1N1 confirmed postmortem late week of 6/26 #6 Philadelphia, unidentified person reported 7/13/09 on PA DOH website #7 Philadelphia, unidentified person reported 7/14/09 by PA DOH website Puerto Rico: 2 #1 Bayamon, 27 year old man reported 7/13/09 *at hospital he presented acute respiratory problems and asthma, it is presumed he also inhaled toxic gases #2 no location, unidentified man died 6/24/09 reported 7/15/09 *presented to hospital with severe respiratory symptoms, progressed to sepsis and respiratory failure, apparently visited or was transferred to several different hospitals, H1N1 confirmed postmortem Rhode Island: 2 #1 Kent County, teenage girl died 6/14/09 reported 6/17/09 *unspecified underlying conditions, special needs student at Meeting Street School, showed no symptoms while in class, H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/17 #2 Providence County, unidentified woman reported 7/7/09 *underlying medical conditions that increased her risk for serious illness from influenza Tennessee: 1 #1 no location, unidentified person reported 7/15/09 Texas: 22 #1 Brownsville 23 month old child, Miguel Tejada Vazquez died 4/27/09 reported 4/29/09 *neonatal myasthenia gravis, heart defect, problems swallowing, chronic hypoxia #2 Cameron County 33 year old woman, Judy Trunnell died 5/5/09 reported 5/5/09 *pregnant, asthma, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis #3 Corpus Christi 33 year old man, Carlos Garnica died 5/6/09 reported 5/15/09 *hypothyroidism, hypertension, enlarged heart, sleep apnea, morbid obesity, died of viral pneumonia #4 El Paso 42 year old male, died 5/19/09 reported 5/29/09 *unspecified underlying conditions #5 El Paso 24 year old woman, Jessica Avalos died 5/24/09 reported 5/29/09 *pregnant, sick for 2 months, died 3 days after C-section, rapid flu test was negative #6 El Paso 43 year old male, died 6/4/09 reported 6/5/09 #7 Fort Bend County 12 year old female, died 5/26/09 reported 6/8/09 *unspecified severe underlying conditions #8 Victoria County, Bloomington, 60 year old woman Maria Monroe, died 6/6/09 reported 6/10/09 *suffered from lupus for 20 years, then in the last 5 years the lupus went away, had diabetes, scheduled for a kidney transplant b/c of lupus damage, 5/26 developed a bad cough, kidney transplant postponed, 5/27-28 started a fever, 5/30 developed pneumonia, H1N1 confirmed 6/10 postmortem, first person in the area confirmed with H1N1 #9 Hidalgo County, 13 year old boy, died week of 6/12/09 reported 6/15/09 *no underlying conditions #10 Hidalgo County, woman in her 30's, died week of 6/12/09 reported 6/15/09 #11 Northeast El Paso, 59 year old man reported 6/24/09 *unspecified underlying condition, hospitalized for flu-like illness #12 Bexar County, unidentified woman died "in June" reported 6/24/09 TX DSHS #13 Bexar County, unidentified woman died "in June" reported 6/24/09 TX DSHS #14 Bexar County, unidentified man died in June reported 6/24/09 #15 El Paso County 82 year old man, reported 6/25/09 *hospitalized with influenza like illness, H1N1 confirmed #16 Austin-Travis County, Pflugerville 49 year old man Ron Stowe, died 6/27/09 reported 6/29/09 *according to his wife he had no underlying health problems, "in perfect health", diagnosed H1N1 6/11, airlifted to Scott & White Memorial Hospital in Temple 6/13 #17 Hidalgo County, unidentified man reported 7/1/09 TX DSHS #18 El Paso County, East Side, 46 year old woman reported 7/2/09 *she was "believed to have underlying conditions that contributed to her death" #19 Cameron County, woman in her 30's reported 7/8/09 TX DSHS #20 Hidalgo County, woman in her 30's reported 7/8/09 TX DSHS #21 Hidalgo County, woman in her 40's reported 7/8/09 TX DSHS #22 Bell County, Temple 60 year old woman reported 7/9/09 *had "another illness," may have had a compromised immune system Utah: 14 #1 Salt Lake County, 21 year old man, Marcos Antonio Sanchez died 5/20/09 reported 5/20/09 *overweight, respiratory condition, suffered multiple organ failure #2 Salt Lake County, unidentified person between 5 and 18 years old, reported 6/4/09 *first reported healthy, then with unspecified significant underlying conditions #3 Salt Lake County, 25-40 year old man, Doug Dunford died 6/12/09, reported 6/14/09 *hospitalized for treatment of a liver condition, came home feeling well, developed a bad cough and was "turning grey and gurgling", hospitalized, given oxygen, then antivirals and ventilator, died a week later #4 Salt Lake County, 47 year old woman, Francine Rushton died 6/13/09, reported 6/14/09 *healthy, mother diagnosed with Type A flu 5/30 and given Tamiflu, Franice came down with symptoms, tested negative for H1N1 3 times, was refused Tamiflu, family says she went untreated 8 days, hospitalized 6/9 in critical condition with penumonia, tested postiive for Type A flu 6/10, and positive H1N1 on 6/11, died of kidney failure, lung damage, brain damage #5 A Salt Lake County, 58-year-old woman died 6/15/09 reported 6/15/09 *unspecified underlying health conditions #6 Salt Lake County, unidentified man 25-50 years old, died 6/12/09 or 6/13/09 reported 6/16/09 *H1N1 confirmed postmortem 6/16 #7 Salt Lake County, unidentified person reported 6/17/09 #8 Davis County, 30 year old man Jaman Davies died 6/13/09 reported 6/17/09 *morbidly obese, lungs filled with fluid, not hospitalized at time of death #9 unidentified woman 18-39 years old reported 6/24/09 *unspecified underlying condition #10 Davis County, unidentified boy 5-17 years old reported 6/24/09 *unspecified underlying condition #11 no location, unidentified person reported 7/8/09 by UPH #12 no location, unidentified person reported 7/8/09 by UPH #13 no location, unidentified person reported 7/8/09 by UPH #14 no location, unidentified person reported 7/8/09 by UPH Virginia: 2 #1 Chesapeake 34 year old woman, April Wilson died 6/2/09 reported 6/2/09 *disabled, Comelia de Lange Syndrome, cerebral palsy, congestive heart failure #2 Alexandria, 27 year old man David Twomey died 6/30/09 reported 7/1/09 *underlying condition which put him at greater risk for complications, fell ill 6/24, lab tests confirmed H1N1, strep throat, and staph infection, died at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, native of Maine who worked in Washington, D.C. Washington: 5 #1 Snohomish County 39 year old male, died 5/6/09 reported 5/9/09 *heart condition, enlarged heart, obesity #2 Pierce County female in her 20's, died 6/5/09 reported 6/5/09 *unspecified underlying condition #3 King County, Seattle man in his 70's died 6/11/09 reported 6/15/09 *multiple unspecified underlying conditions, H1N1 confirmed postmortem #4 Snohomish County, middle aged man died 6/24/09 reported 7/2/09 *other unspecified health problems #5 no location, unidentified person reported 7/13/09 on WA DOH website Wisconsin: 5 #1 Milwaukee 27 year old woman, Andrea Morgan, died 6/3/09 reported 6/4/09 *common underlying condition, sought treatment 5/31, sent home #2 Milwaukee, 48 year old woman, Barbara Davis died 6/11/09 reported 6/12/09 *healthy, family blames delayed health care response, suffered multiple organ failure #3 Milwaukee, 14-year-old Tiara Mosely-Forrest, reported 6/16/09 *had no other medical conditions which could have led to death, complete physical and blood tests in May reported her as healthy, complained of chest pains in late May, by 6/1 she could not walk on her own, on a ventilator 2 weeks, died from influenza, pneumonia in the lungs, a staph infection, multiple organ failure #4 Marathon County, Wassau, 12 year old girl Emily Eaton, died 6/17/09 reported 6/17/09 *episodic immune deficiencies since birth, mild autism, hospitalized 6/11/09 with what appeared to be pneumonia, H1N1 rapid test was negative, father says she "deteriorated really fast, like someone turned a switch, went from singing songs to being non-responsive", airlifted 6/13 to St. Joseph's Hospital where she suffered severe respiratory symptoms and multiple cardiac arrests, father says the family had been extra cautious about not traveling, had not left the area and had restricted trips to "Walmart and the park", but that Emily was outgoing and had had a lot of close contact with many people in recent weeks #5 Milwaukee, 13 year old girl Gisela Alanis died 7/12/09 reported 7/14/09 *asthma, described as "a common underlying condition", sick for more than a month, admitted to hospital ER 5/27 semi-conscious and in respiratory distress, later developed fever, her blood pressure dropped shortly before she died http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthrea...5485&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 ...#24 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #25 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #26 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #27 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #28 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May #29 NYC unidentified person between 25 and 64 years old, reported 6/16/09 *most of the 7 reported 6/16 were hospitalized late May ... Doesn't N.York City have more age-specific data than this ? Or do they not want particular age groups to panic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNACR Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Doesn't N.York City have more age-specific data than this ? Or do they not want particular age groups to panic ? The inhabitants have had an above average amount of plastic surgery so it's hard to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 What are you on about? This virus is infecting dramatically more people than regular flu meaning a large proportion of the workforce ~10% will be off sick. How can an economy lose 10% of its workforce and not be affected? if it was civil servants and postmen? Maybe teachers and traffic wardens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOP Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Doesn't N.York City have more age-specific data than this ? Or do they not want particular age groups to panic ? The data is getting less specific by the day. H1N1 pandemic spreading too fast to count: WHO http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56F57U20090716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 The data is getting less specific by the day. H1N1 pandemic spreading too fast to count: WHO http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE56F57U20090716 I get it. Pile the bodies up and measure 'em by the yard (like I used to count books at stocktake when I had a bookshop). Maybe the Greens will see their dreams about a reduced popluation come true, albeit not quite in the manner in which they envisaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 The inhabitants have had an above average amount of plastic surgery so it's hard to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandare500 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Interesting comment. 5 live radio news said Cherie Blair has it but heard nothing about it since! We should see some dead politicians if it's as bad as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Correction Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 What's happened to all the negative spin against GPs - it all seems to have gone very quiet - wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny5thumbs Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Interesting comment. 5 live radio news said Cherie Blair has it but heard nothing about it since! Was going to say something, but got sidetracked by your avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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