Jump to content
House Price Crash Forum

Media articles NORTHERN IRELAND Hpc Related


Vespasian

Recommended Posts

0
HOLA441

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsline/

Anyone see the news tonight?

Go to tonights 18:30 bulletin about 3 mins 50 in.

Brendan Cunnane thinks there is evidence that property prices have "really bottomed off" but buyer confidence needs to be restored to the market and it's the banks that need to supply liquidity and mortgages to get people "on the market and back to work". :huh:

Frankly I've never heard such b0110x and if he thinks the banks are going to lend at previously ridiculous levels he's smokin' some seriously good sh1t and I need to find out where he's gettin' it. :blink:

Edited by headmelter
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 4.9k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

1
HOLA442
2
HOLA443
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsline/

Anyone see the news tonight?

Go to tonights 18:30 bulletin about 3 mins 50 in.

Brendan Cunnane thinks there is evidence that property prices have "really bottomed off" but buyer confidence needs to be restored to the market and it's the banks that need to supply liquidity and mortgages to get people "on the market and back to work". :huh:

Frankly I've never heard such b0110x and if he thinks the banks are going to lend at previously ridiculous levels he's smokin' some seriously good sh1t and I need to find out where he's gettin' it. :blink:

Brendan clearly hasn't been reading the reports coming out of the Newsletter recently or paying attention to the state that UK, Irish and global banks are in. Unfortunately for him his position as spokesperson for this construction and property group is a difficult one as banks are never going to go back to lending at the crazy levels of the last 5 years. Never mind the fact that we are headed for or are actually in recession and increasing unemployment across many sectors - not just construction and property.The sooner he wakes up and starts to see that that is the case the sooner he can start to advise his membership that prices will have to readjust to where the market can afford them. That's the way of capitalism after all - and the prudent businesses out there put money aside when they are making hay while the sun shines in the good times in order to cover those eventual rainy days

Saying that the market has bottomed off is just ludicrous. But then again as a major VI he would be expected to say that. He has his membership to think of after all.

Speaking of membership when is the last time anyone here last saw a post from StatinStoinker?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3
HOLA444
4
HOLA445

2008 - The selling season did fail. The VI's are shouting that the housing market has bottomed at 30% off and now is a good time to buy. Some people will believe the spin. Some people will buy.

2009 - The selling season will fail. The VI's will shout louder that the market has bottomed and now is a really good time to buy. A few people will believe them. A few people - who can scrape together a deposit and are able to get a mortgage - will buy a house.

2010 - The selling season will fail. Any VI's left will be screaming that the housing market has bottomed and now is a really good time to buy. Nobody will believe them. Everyone will be too worried about their job to want to take out a mortgage to buy a house. Nobody will be buying a house.

2010 - Autumn time - the housing market will be near the bottom. It will be a good time to buy. People with large deposits will be able to make, what may seem silly low offers, which will get serious consideration. As they will be the only people able make any offer.

Sound plausible?

Edited by Belfast Boy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5
HOLA446
6
HOLA447
7
HOLA448
8
HOLA449
9
HOLA4410
10
HOLA4411
11
HOLA4412
12
HOLA4413
13
HOLA4414
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/loc...o-14003496.html

quick cut and paste by the BT , why would anyone buy a local paper that can't be bothered to add a local view to national stories :(

Although when you read it God loves an optimist. :rolleyes:

"But while the group does not expect the bottom of the market to be reached until late 2009 or early 2010, it is forecasting a pick up in sales next year.

Knight Frank expects sales volumes to hit their low point towards the end of this year, with transactions running at just 30% of their long-term average, before recovering to 60% of their average level by the second half of 2009."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14
HOLA4415
Although when you read it God loves an optimist. :rolleyes:

"But while the group does not expect the bottom of the market to be reached until late 2009 or early 2010, it is forecasting a pick up in sales next year.

Knight Frank expects sales volumes to hit their low point towards the end of this year, with transactions running at just 30% of their long-term average, before recovering to 60% of their average level by the second half of 2009."

i would read this as a prediction of capitulation from sellers , this would be the normal level of transactions pre bubble.

not good news for the 40% of EA's who will be surplus to requirement ;)

Edited by Malthus
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15
HOLA4416
16
HOLA4417
17
HOLA4418
18
HOLA4419
19
HOLA4420
20
HOLA4421
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business...9628.html?r=RSS

This is not going to please the ailing developers.

Interesting to see that the RICS person quoted in this piece is RICS’ Northern Ireland chairman, John Davidson rather than the more commonly quoted RICS Northern Ireland spokesman, Tom McClelland.

Up until this piece I had never even heard of John Davidson in a RICS context. I wonder if both he and Tom sing from the same hymn sheet?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21
HOLA4422
http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewi...id_2726693.html

and here's one saying the opposite of the Daily Mirror last week. We'll be grand lads.

Why do these people always look to figures of time just passed and point to it as an indicator of the future? It's like saying 'we didn't have much rain last month, so we're not going to have much next month' and passing it off as some sort of clever thinking. It's rubbish!

The only way you can gauge where we are and where we will be is by looking at the fundamentals (I want to rescue that word back, after Brown kidnapped it!). That is, credit is restricted and will continue to be, which will drive house prices down. IMO, it's no accident that there is bad economic/financial news on the TV, in the newspapers daily. It's because there are very serious problems to overcome and house prices will suffer, while people turn their attention to keeping their jobs and their families fed.

These "rear view mirror" analysts really are not worth listening to as they see unable to see the bigger picture. They don't see the cause and so cannot understand the affect. They just monitor what has just happened and conclude that this can be used to predict the future. While the recent past can be used to re-enforce opinion, ignoring the bigger problems is very foolish.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22
HOLA4423

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/Crunc...rket.4561801.jp

you could'nt make it up ( again )

"A NEW debt advisory service has been launched to protect Ulster's hard-pressed property industry. Banks and investors in the real estate markets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain will be offered advice to minimise risks amid the spiralling financial crisis."

Surely a recorded message would do the trick :

Bankers press 1 - Mortages were 3.5x salary for a good reason ;)

Investors press 2 - The value of investment may go down as well as up , previous performance is not a guide to the future .

Builders press 3 - paying over the odds for land (doing a Taggart as it's known) and building crap flats will lead to ruin.

sorted , but 4 years to late i fear ;)

Edited by Malthus
Link to comment
Share on other sites

23
HOLA4424
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/Crunc...rket.4561801.jp

you could'nt make it up ( again )

"A NEW debt advisory service has been launched to protect Ulster's hard-pressed property industry. Banks and investors in the real estate markets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain will be offered advice to minimise risks amid the spiralling financial crisis."

Surely a recorded message would do the trick :

Bankers press 1 - Mortages were 3.5x salary for a good reason ;)

Investors press 2 - The value of investment may go down as well as up , previous preformance is not a guide to the future .

Builders press 3 - paying over the odds for land (doing a Taggart as it's known) and building crap flats will lead to ruin.

sorted , but 4 years to late i fear ;)

:lol::lol: Quality! :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

24
HOLA4425
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/Crunc...rket.4561801.jp

you could'nt make it up ( again )

"A NEW debt advisory service has been launched to protect Ulster's hard-pressed property industry. Banks and investors in the real estate markets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain will be offered advice to minimise risks amid the spiralling financial crisis."

Surely a recorded message would do the trick :

Bankers press 1 - Mortages were 3.5x salary for a good reason ;)

Investors press 2 - The value of investment may go down as well as up , previous preformance is not a guide to the future .

Builders press 3 - paying over the odds for land (doing a Taggart as it's known) and building crap flats will lead to ruin.

sorted , but 4 years to late i fear ;)

very good....and probably just as helpful....but it is creating more jobs for out of work estate agent...lol

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.




×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information