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To be fair, they did knock some of the houses down & build new. Number 3 might be one of the new builds.

Who remembers this housing related classic?

It says that Hartlepool one is a 3 bedroom. I suppose that just means an extra window to get a petrol bomb thrown through.

This is what I was saying back in 2008 when Borrowdale Street's houses were going for £50k & £60k, that nobody wanted them when they were going for £8k & £10k back in 2000, so the market won't start fully correcting till these type of houses are back to around £15k - £20k & nobody wants them.

What I particularly hate about Homes Under the Hammer, is the way they always tell you how much profit could have been made by doing up & selling on the property or by renting, even when the people are actually buying it to live in. Proving that it's all about ramping property prices. Of course, they very rarely show anybody who actually buys a house to live in it, they focus mainly on property developers & btl'ers. Actual home buyers appearing only as a tokenistic gesture. They must vet all the auction winners after the sale to avoid wasting valuable time filming the 1000s of people who actually want to live in the homes they buy.

It isn't simply just misnamed. That's like saying the mafia have simply misnamed their services as 'protection', rather deliberately using the term as a smokescreen. Rich elites & the right want people to think that it's a free market, to try to get the poor to accept their lot without state help, whilst as we all know, the rich seek massive protection from the state. Free Market propaganda also works on a National level, if you can con other countries to accept free market principals, you can pretty much push their economies into recession & go in & buy everything up cheap. The rich don't really want to be subjected to the ravages of the free market, they aren't stupid, they just want the poor to be subjected to it's horrors. They haven't fully succeeded, all thanks to the labour & people's movements, which, in a system of force & coercion, have sadly been forced to use that very force & coercion to get the state to throw a few crumbs from the table, just like slaves might force a slave owner to do, if they'd gotten the chance.

How come everyone seems to have forgotten that Rightmove, pretty much, instructed sellers to drop their prices last month? Sellers will soon face reality and cut prices according to Rightmove

Why do these right wing politicians expect people to take responsibility when the people's ability to respond (responsibility) is deliberately deprived of them by the state? If they really want people to take responsibility, they should stop making land and resources the hostage of capital. Liberate it & let people organize & take the things they need to be responsible.

Why no option for emergence of true socialism? You know, the one where the means of production are in the hands of the people & not the state.

Certainly looking 'Beartastic' in Hartlepool today. The Hartlepool Mail's lead story is: Hundreds of town families face losing homes

Never heard of a bed bath?

Maybe you aren't seeing any cuts in the south, but we've had plenty of services cut up here in the north, quite ferociously.

Can somebody explain to me why a football team winning a cup is considered a good thing by anyone except shareholders? Surely, one of the key functions in sport is to build irrational attitudes of partisanship in spectators, ie training in irrational jingoism.

Brown was referring to the very real New World Order in which the Western Capitalist nations are free to exploit the third world without any Soviet hinderance NOT the NWO imagined to be ran, according to David Icke (the son of god) & Alex Jones (political smashy & nicey - disc jockey extraordinairely crap) - by the Bilderbergs, the Masons, the Trilateral Commission & the Lizards.

That happened back in the late 70's & early 80's with the financialisation of the economy & outsourcing of manufacturing to all those third world countries in which we had previously installed fascist dictators & funded torture & death squads to crack down on profit eating social reformists & union members.

Claiming to have made a mistake is probably the most used technique for providing politicians/govts with plausible deniability. I mean, the Americans try to claim that Vietnam was a mistake, for example. But the dropping of more tonnage of bombs than in WWII, the spraying of baby deforming toxins such as agent orange, the slaughter of approx 4 million people had the intended effect of crushing the country pretty much beyond repair & making sure that the chances of a successful, more rational communist regime appearing & it's insidious model effect would be absolutely zero. Deregulation wasn't a mistake, it had the intended effect. It allowed the banks to give out credit to the less credit worthy once the prime mortgage market had become saturated, helping fuel a consumer boom & thus delaying recession.

Was it just me, or did anybody else get the impression that they were actually trying to put people off scrimping & scraping in this programme. I mean, they had a 60-70 year old granny dying her grotty old knickers purple & told us how easy it was to 'live off the land" by showing a woman who owned 30 acres making nettle pasta !!! Just came over as another one of those 30 minute long advertisements for spending your idly earned cash on useless consumables, but this time under the guise of scrimping.

Of course they will send people to their deaths to fix it, just like they did at Chernobyl. It isn't just in a dictatorship where the flow of info can be restricted & used to manipulate people (putting outright force aside). It happens in all hierarchical institutions & structures, be they states in western democracies or even private businesses. Those at the top withhold the truth from those at the bottom & give stated reasons for their actions that bear no resemblance to their real intentions.

He isn't attempting to will it down, he's suggesting that people organize to collate their economic votes, which as they usually stand with capitalism, at one vote per dollar (or should I say one vote per pound sterling), are useless. But people would be better off organizing to end existing property laws entirely. Why be happy with a house, when ending the violence of the state would end capitalist property laws, which would allow the 69% of the land that is currently in the hands of less than 1% of the population fall into our laps?

You haven't lived in a true socialist system either, where the land & the means of production are in the hands of the people & not in the hands of private capital, nor the state.

Yes, those nice socialists will come round and enforce those evil capitalist property laws, designed to keep property in the hands of capital.

The State has no place in true Socialism, since true Socialism means that the people own the means of production & not some proxy such as the State. Of course Marx argued that the means of production be put in the hands of the State to vanguard the revolution & since he won the idealogical battles in the first international & the socialists who opposed the state (anarchists) lost, then that became the prevailing concept which inspired the monstrosities in the USSR, China & elsewhere & has seen socialism associated with the State ever since.

You'd prefer military keynesianism, no doubt?

This property is up for £15,000. It has been reduced, gradually from £35k since it came on the market a few years ago. It sold for £42,350 on 06/07/2004 & £11,000 on 05/05/2000. I think it's over priced at £15k, now investors seem to have stopped playing pass the parcel with properties & left the street virtually empty & boarded up. Perhaps another 80% off the asking price.

I don't know if some of you remember the discussion we had on here some time back about how the mainstream media seemed to have propagandized women into having careers, possibly so that elites could exploit double the workforce, which was fine during boom times. Some of us also predicted that during a downturn or prolonged recession, as jobs become fewer, that the mainstream media might switch to encouraging women to start families & stay at home. Is this the start of it?