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^ THIS ^

I was chatting about this to a couple of blokes i was working with on site yesterday and their answer was simple; "We'll just do more jobs in cash to keep under the threshold". To say this govt doesn't has a fkn clue about the real world is putting it mildly.

Just reading the .gov notes on this from the above link and apparently its because there are so many businesses at the current threshold that they are discouraged of expanding so by bending me over and making me vat-able (self-employed chippy) and thus completely uncompetitve will 'help' me expand. Now i know these cuntz have always lived in a fkn goldfish bowl but this is beyond insane. Two ideas spring to mind, 1) as above LVT and 2) actually go after the likes of Apple, Amazon etc and get them to pay their fair share ffs and Bono - the twit................................

Got a few in my circle who have lost jobs or havent had contracts renewed recently who now think its a "good time to get into property cos you can't lose"...................how I laughed.

Baby Boomers - "Never has so much been given to so many for doing so little................"

Had this happen (well nearly) just this afternoon. I'm outside on the customers driveway routing out hinges for an internal door i'm hanging when a bloody great pick-up drives onto said driveway, & in an almost unintelliigable accent one of the two fat fuks demanded to know if the (customers) cars on the driveway were for sale. I replied along the lines of - wtf are you talking about? He then gets a bit angry and tells me to get the owner, the guy (my customer) works nights, so I walk right up to the door of his pick-up tell him in no uncertain terms to f**k off whilst making a point of taking down his registration on my phone. Luckily they did, but talk about brazen and whilst this is going on i thinking - fuk - all my li-ion tools are lying about the place to do the job i'm doing. From my experience of them whilst living / working in London the Met are more scared of them than we were - wouldn't lift a finger despite numerous break-ins to our workshops, whole load of 'em lived over the road on a disused bus depot, (Hackney Wick) turns out they just all rocked up en masse one day - built a wall round the perimeter of the old depot and it was theres apparently - easy as that..........................

This is the same as the beach huts at Mudeford in Dorset, they are literally 10 x 10 sheds on Christchurch spit - its the same level of madness. http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15188374.Now_it_costs___275_000_to_buy_a_beach_hut_at_Mudeford___the_same_as_a_three_bedroom_house_in_Boscombe/ When i see this level of mania (stupidity) in property prices and how distant reality and fairness is now i cant wait to watch the whole fuking lot burn.

This is why i laugh when i hear of the mock indignation from those in power about all the debt that would be built up if Corbyn was elected - i'm thinking how can it be any worse / different to what we have now, at least maybe we'd get better services although anything govt is involved in wouldn't have me holding my breath. At the expense of a bit of thread drift what do others think it will take to change things in this country, i mean anecdotally speaking from the job i do (carpenter) it seems to me whether its a house in a gated community with two new cars on the drive or working on my local council estate everyones skint but just stylin' it out.

What's being described in this thread is what i've been banging on about since 2008 to mostly friends and family (& a few scared-looking strangers in the pub) - there has been no 'recovery'. The govt - it seems to me - are out of bullets as are households, i genuinely don't know how long it can sustain itself what bothers me personally is when the SHTF in 2008 i had a chunk of savings to plug the holes in my earnings, this time around i don't and the more people i talk to i realise i'm not the only one. The uncertainty about this country and its future is palpable now but as mentioned above people just keep borrowing ever more and in a few of my mates cases laugh nervously and change the subject - gotta hand it to TPTB they've kept the whole charade going for what, nine years can't see it going another nine.......................

I ponder this alot too

24 m 8: i could do this all day but suffice to say i won't, this'll be my last on this and fwiw i think the systems completely fuked and only a matter of time b4 it implodes but a work shy 38 year old who goes begging to mummy because his lifes reality doesn't fit the fantasy of where he'd think he'd be is pretty fkn weak regardless of the inherent economic problems. Infact if anything his mothers help is propping / supporting HPI.

But if mumsy moneypot wasn't there he'd have to get off his **** and do something for himself wouldn't he? We call these people lazy cuntz where i come from.

Yeah there is, you just don't have kids ffs................?

This Found that of particular interest in the article (and when the sympathy stopped for me): the guys banging on about being skint with no prospects and how terrible it is (and it is) and in the next breath tells us "meanwhile, my wife had another baby". This is like the scumbag mentality i used to deal with working on sink estates, you know the old, "how can i survive on £170 a week" bolloxs, (me) - "stop breeding you thick fuk"..................................................

^THIS^ Although i take a bit of solace from Mark Blyth that eventually we will come for them, ("the Hamptons is not a defensible position") Its a case of seeing just how long it'll take the masses to wake up and realise they're / we're screwed. For those who don't know who Mark Blyth is, apols to those who do.................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lD474zXIzc

At the expense of sounding a bit 'tin-foil-hat' its hard not to draw that conclusion, and was further reinforced to me after reading Nicholas Comfort's book "The slow death of British Industry - A sixty year suicide". Highly recommend the book.

I think thats got legs Satch, i can almost smell the money! Can't believe people are this dumb even if the story was true, the comments on the gofundme page tell you how bad the story stinks.

Had a letter from my bank today telling me i'm getting near the maximum of my overdraft and it would be wise to make a deposit, now based on the number of suckers who've given over six grand in 9 hours to those two tw@ts i'm pretty confident of clearing my overdraft and having a few grand in the account by morning, Trying to think of a hard luck story that'll really tug at the heart strings enough to ellicit the readies.

This is the only time i've ever wanted a facebook account to leave comments plus its upto nearly £6k.................. wtf! One comment i particularly like is "The people of donetsk wish them luck" Its got to be wind up surely?

What a total pair of c*nts, from the article it seems the shtf 10 years ago so why would you carry on pissing money away. I'm self-employed and as anyone who is knows you're as good as your last pay cheque so no sympathy whatsoever. And as for the 'poor old us' narrative - f**k 'em; as mentioned above what they're earning in their 'meagre' private and state pension is totally livable, you're right there could be something more to it or they could just be your typical f**king idiot boomers. Cut your cloth to your width i say.

You've described the vast majority (not all) of my parents friends, it takes a certain type of zen-like calm not to totally lose it when listening to yet another (boomer) whining about their private pension whilst living in a house with the mortgage paid off and collecting a state pension too and they're looking at me for sympathy, i'm forty and cant afford a pension and meet all my bills at present: un-******ing believable. Its not uncommon for me to hear the: "why haven't you bought a place and settled down?" Me: "Uh......because i can't afford one" Also funny how a good few in my circle at least were alternative-types in the '60's who seemed to have amassed a small fortune since then and yet all claim to hate the 'other' side as they're "all about money" together with the almost complete ignorance in some i know of the struggles the vast majority of us born from the late 70's/early '80's onwards now face is bewildering, i wonder about one or two i know as to whether they live in some alternate universe to the one i'm in, truly baffles me. Until they all die there will be no change, every march that appears on the local news where i live in Hampshire; its always the same well-attired grey-hairs with placards and frightfully frightful cut glass accents all flaring their nostrels over things like building windfarms and housing etc, stuff that would genuinely improve the prospects of many alot younger than them but no, ****** the young eh? This is the UK. Shouldn't be called 'boomers' more like Generation i'm-alright-Jack.

"Maybe there's a problem with the development." There was, i spent a year working on the grotty old 60's high rises in 2007-8 behind this development, (rodney, drake court forgot what the third one was called) but for almost six months they had the road dug out to some rediculous depth, made access to my job a pain in the ****, got told by one of the engineers on our job it looked like they were shoring up the foundations on this new development due to subsidence. The development then wasn't more than a couple of years old, IIRC the ground floor retail was empty for years, the general build quality externally is dreadful, used a lot of tin and white block on the outside, kinda resembles early '80's sports centre IMO a sea of beige and grey IIRC, can well believe the prices have fallen as you back on to a mass of social housing which from my experience working there had a lot of 'characters' around. One other thought, now Sunseekers (major local boatbuilder and employer in Poole) is majority owned by the chinese it wont be long before they're off back to the far east with all the IP to be produced at a fraction of the cost of British labour, already laid off 300 a month ago it'll turn Poole into a ghost town, then who would want to pay many hundreds of thousands to live there.

I live in Ringwood and can attest to the sheer unaffordability of the place, its hard to believe that the first place (terrace on Christchurch Road) is up for £200k seeing as most of those terraces seem to be suffering from subsidence judging by the backwards lean to them yet people keep queuing up to buy them, i agree its amazing the effect a Howdens kitchen / £5 a sq m carpet and a coat of magnolia can have on some people. This will all end in tears but i've given up trying to figure out when.....................................

iThe problem is we have salesmen rather than statesmen

He sounded quite sedate compared to his shows on RT and press.tv, as for the bloody idiot conducting the interview...........well what do you expect it is the bbc after all - she'll be part of the SW London set with a rather large BTL portfolio no doubt. Can't wait for the melt down, her reaction is similar to the conversations i have with mates in the pub, its normally after describing the mess we're in and how we got to this point, i try and paint a rather sh*t vision of the future (normally after a few pints), you know weimar-style hyperinflation, property crash, no job etc just to see the expression on their faces especially the ones who i know are borrowed up to the eye balls. But just like the woman in the interview with max most of them tell me "oh that will never happen". Cheers