interestrateripoff Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/europes-scariest-chart-just-got-scarier At least they've got the xbox, playstation and mobile phones to distract them...
winkie Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Well the natural reaction is to either create employment where you live or move to other places that can offer it.....same as it ever was.
Guest spp Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 At least they've got the xbox, playstation and mobile phones to distract them... + Some great weather (Spain/Portugal). Far better than youth servitude in the U.K.
interestrateripoff Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 + Some great weather Far better than youth servitude in the U.K. Where you get to work for free?
Game_Over Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Well the natural reaction is to either create employment where you live or move to other places that can offer it.....same as it ever was. Unfortunately the natural reaction in Europe is to start a bloody war.
winkie Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Unfortunately the natural reaction in Europe is to start a bloody war. Not the best way to create jobs...not the best way to create supply, not to be recommended.
Game_Over Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Not the best way to create jobs...not the best way to create supply, not to be recommended. Err....... It does create demand and it also reduces unemployment dramatically. I have two sons - so I am genuinely concerned about this. The European project is just another attempt to politically dominate the continent and those responsible deserve to burn in Hell for what they are attempting to do. Why can't France and Germany just leave the rest of Europe in peace? Whatever happens, this is not going to end well.
lurker07 Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Err....... It does create demand and it also reduces unemployment dramatically. I have two sons - so I am genuinely concerned about this. The European project is just another attempt to politically dominate the continent and those responsible deserve to burn in Hell for what they are attempting to do. Why can't France and Germany just leave the rest of Europe in peace? Whatever happens, this is not going to end well. I agree. Politicians seem intent on always encouraging two sided arguments which inevitably are resolved by conflict.
Lewis Gordon Pugh Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Bankers will just organise a big war to solve this problem. War is always the answer for them
bmf Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Bankers will just organise a big war to solve this problem. War is always the answer for them This thread seems to be getting a bit silly. Who is going to war with who? Greece and Spain vs Germany (presumably organised by Santander and Deutche Bank?) I very much doubt the nationalism exists in most nations to compel the masses to fight for their own country. Many young people are emigrating from these countries not joining their armies. Feels like people are being lazy here.
Giraffe Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 That is one scary graph. They have not addressed the causes of the crisis and we will hit another wall in a few years time making things much worse. I shudder to think what will happen. Extremist governments will be elected. War will be the end result.
wonderpup Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 I very much doubt the nationalism exists in most nations to compel the masses to fight for their own country. Many young people are emigrating from these countries not joining their armies. I suspect the young unemployed share a common contempt for their political masters whichever country they live in- this is one generation who will not bleed and die for the aspirations of their elders- they are too well informed and interconnected.
Game_Over Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 This thread seems to be getting a bit silly. Who is going to war with who? Greece and Spain vs Germany (presumably organised by Santander and Deutche Bank?) I very much doubt the nationalism exists in most nations to compel the masses to fight for their own country. Many young people are emigrating from these countries not joining their armies. Feels like people are being lazy here. Oh really? Nationalism may not exist in England, but the Scottish Nationalists, Welsh Nationalists and Irish Nationalists seem pretty real to me. I also suspect that Nationalism is 'alive and well' in most of Europe
Game_Over Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 I suspect the young unemployed share a common contempt for their political masters whichever country they live in- this is one generation who will not bleed and die for the aspirations of their elders- they are too well informed and interconnected. What is the average age of a suicide bomber these days?
bmf Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 What is the average age of a suicide bomber these days? They are from western democracies are they? From the EU? That's another loose assertion. Who is going to war with who? How are the banks orchestrating this as mentioned earlier in the thread? As I said before, what are the logistics of this? Are UBS employees neutral? Deutsche Bank employees in London who are Spanish will fight against Spain as bank loyalties cut deeper? Which European countries will fight one another? It's so easy to say Europe is at war all the time due to history. War in Iran, perhaps, but that's mainly the US and it wasn't what was hinted at. I don't have a lot of time to spend on this, I'm just doing my bit to make sure the board's spirit of questioning is kept afloat and we don't end up with a load of zero hedge style crap.
The Eagle Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 What is the average age of a suicide bomber these days? Oh dear ,who set the Game_over troll loose on HPC tonight? Did your parents forget to switch of your computer before sending you to bed?
Self Employed Youth Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 What is the average age of a suicide bomber these days? Statistically, about 22-24. But they do come in all shapes and sizes. A Basic ProfileProfiles of terrorists have included a profile constructed by Charles A. Russell and Bowman H. Miller (1977), which has been widely mentioned in terrorism-related studies, despite its limitations, and another study that involved systematically analyzing biographical and social data on about 250 German terrorists, both left-wing and right-right. Russell and Bowman attempt to draw a sociological portrait or profile of the modern urban terrorist based on a compilation and analysis of more than 350 individual terrorist cadres and leaders from Argentinian, Brazilian, German, Iranian, Irish, Italian, Japanese, Palestinian, Spanish, Turkish, and Uruguayan terrorist groups active during the 1966-76 period, the first decade of the contemporary terrorist era. Russell and Bowman (1977:31) conclude:In summation, one can draw a general composite picture into which fit the great majority of those terrorists from the eighteen urban guerrilla groups examined here. To this point, they have been largely single males aged 22 to 24...who have some university education, if not a college degree. The female terrorists, except for the West German groups and an occasional leading figure in the JRA and PFLP, are preoccupied with support rather than operational roles....Whether having turned to terrorism as a university student or only later, most were provided an anarchist or Marxist world view, as well as recruited into terrorist operations while in the university. Russell and Miller's profile tends to substantiate some widely reported sociological characteristics of terrorists in the 1970s, such as the youth of most terrorists. Of particular interest is their finding that urban terrorists have largely urban origins and that many terrorist cadres have predominantly middle-class or even upper-class backgrounds and are well educated, with many having university degrees. However, like most such profiles that are based largely on secondary sources, such as newspaper articles and academic studies, the Russell and Miller profile cannot be regarded as definitive. Furthermore, their methodological approach lacks validity. It is fallacious to assume that one can compare characteristics of members of numerous terrorist groups in various regions of the world and then make generalizations about these traits. For example, the authors' conclusion that terrorists are largely single young males from urban, middle-class or upper-middle-class backgrounds with some university education would not accurately describe many members of terrorist groups operating in the 1990s. The rank and file of Latin American groups such as the FARC and Shining Path, Middle Eastern groups such as the Armed Islamic Group (Group Islamique Armé--GIA), Hamas, and Hizballah, Asian groups such as the LTTE, and Irish groups such as the IRA are poorly educated. Although the Russell and Miller profile is dated, it can still be used as a basic guide for making some generalizations about typical personal attributes of terrorists, in combination with other information. http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/frd.html
EUBanana Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I have two sons - so I am genuinely concerned about this. It's not the EU that kept the peace, it's nuclear weapons. There won't be a total war ever again, unless we go Star Trek and end up on multiple planets.
EUBanana Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I suspect the young unemployed share a common contempt for their political masters whichever country they live in- this is one generation who will not bleed and die for the aspirations of their elders- they are too well informed and interconnected. Definitely. Most of the young uns I know dead are no fans of the ruling classes. If anything blood soaked happens it'll be a communist revolution.
Lewis Gordon Pugh Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 This thread seems to be getting a bit silly. Who is going to war with who? Greece and Spain vs Germany (presumably organised by Santander and Deutche Bank?) I very much doubt the nationalism exists in most nations to compel the masses to fight for their own country. Many young people are emigrating from these countries not joining their armies. Feels like people are being lazy here. Who said they have to join armies? Most people who die in modern wars are civilians. Keep up.
bmf Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Who said they have to join armies? Most people who die in modern wars are civilians. Keep up. I asked who was going to war after lots of silly comments. Nice try, but overall a shit reply. Bankers will just organise a big war to solve this problem. War is always the answer for them So please enlighten us on the bankers war circlejerk.
interestrateripoff Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 It's not the EU that kept the peace, it's nuclear weapons. There won't be a total war ever again, unless we go Star Trek and end up on multiple planets. Building star ships will certainly help GDP. Think of all the R&D to get warp engines and inertial dampeners.
SHERWICK Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 http://www.zerohedge...ust-got-scarier At least they've got the xbox, playstation and mobile phones to distract them... The amazing thing is, if those graphs are accurate, that youth unemployment was between 20% and 25% during the boom years.
fluffy666 Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Building star ships will certainly help GDP. Think of all the R&D to get warp engines and inertial dampeners. As far as Keynesian projects go.. building a proper space infrastructure would be a lot better as a stimulus than another major war. Of course, space mining could be a goldbug's worst nightmare..
fluffy666 Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 The amazing thing is, if those graphs are accurate, that youth unemployment was between 20% and 25% during the boom years. Full employment is, historically, quite rare for industrial economies.
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