laurejon Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Iran pre-empting an attack on their overseas deposits has withdrawn vast sums of money. It is anticipated that this will push oil prices up even further. I think we should all thank George and Tony for making the world a much safer place.........Think Not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlad1967 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Laurejon, That post made me drop my Gin & Tonic! People have been maimed for less! Thanks for posting this - it will be interesting how this develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETOPS773 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'm glad they are making this move, hopefully it might start a chain reaction which gets the oil prices nice and high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=22614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Te Mata Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Iran pre-empting an attack on their overseas deposits has withdrawn vast sums of money. It is anticipated that this will push oil prices up even further. I think we should all thank George and Tony for making the world a much safer place.........Think Not!!! One mustn't forget our PM, Johnny Stinkin' Howard for the same. Thanks John (Not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 If the other Arab/Muslim nations follow suit then it will be interesting to see what impact they can have on an already fragile economy. Nigeria is a prime example of a Nation that has the US by the short and Curlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Riser Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Iran pre-empting an attack on their overseas deposits has withdrawn vast sums of money. It is anticipated that this will push oil prices up even further. I think we should all thank George and Tony for making the world a much safer place.........Think Not!!! All part of Irans master plan, pull assets from the West to minimise their control over them, then open their own oil exchange trading first in Euros rather than Dollars then create and move to their own gold backed Petro currency which will be trusted by China and the East. The Dollar will become redundant and collapse as foreign nations lose confidence in Fed reasurances that they will not print their way out of trouble, forcing Bush to take military action to protect their oil interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Herbert Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Latest Bin Laden Tape: Another of the NeoCons' "Greatest Hits" Experts already begin to come forward with revelations that Latest tape just another CIA fake Steve Watson | January 20 2006 Spying? Torture? Illegal airstrikes? SHUT UP and hate Bin Laden. The NeoCon use of Osama Bin Laden as a tool of fear and control is a tried and tested method whenever the going gets tough. It's predictable and it's tiresome, but the masses buy it every time and that's why he has reappeared once again. Just as the NSA spying tidal wave gathers increasing momentum, as the media demand more answers on rendition and torture and days after the bizarre airstrike on innocent women and children in Pakistan, we all magically get a timely reminder of just why the government is spying on its own citizens and torturing and killing anyone it likes anywhere in the world. Just like Orwell's ubiquitous Emmanuel Goldstein, Bin Laden always seems to pop up right on cue so we can disengage our minds from reality and join in the two minutes hate. We are reliably informed by the mainstream media that this is because he is a very clever man and has an impeccable sense of timing. Yet if this is the case, why can he not work out that EVERYTIME he has released a video or a tape it has HELPED Bush and the NeoCon agenda tenfold? Even the BBC lays this out in the open with the headline Bin Laden threats may boost Bush: The commander-in-chief has been under intense pressure in recent weeks, accused of trampling on civil liberties in pursuit of terror suspects. His defence has been that America is a nation at war. So Bin Laden's latest threats to launch new attacks on the US will only serve to underline this argument. The White House will also cite the tape when trying to convince allies abroad that the use of tough tactics is justified - even when civilians are killed, as in last week's air raid in Pakistan. That just says it all really. Bin Laden was created by US intelligence , worked with US intelligence in the late 70s and 80s, was used as a patsy by US intelligence before and after 911 and is now being used as a manipulative tool of fear by the criminal elite faction currently in power in the US. The last time Bin Laden appeared was October 2004, exactly three days before the election. The same headline "Boost for Bush" appeared and some, including Walter Conkite went as far as to suggest that the whole thing was manufactured by Karl rove in order to secure the election for Bush. The Tehran Times suggested that Bin Laden was "dancing to Bush’s tune" and a "premeditated plan devised by Bush administration neoconservatives is unfolding". The report also noted that the CIA immediately confirmed the tape to be the voice of Bin Laden, something they had never previously done. They have also done this this time around too. Bin Laden personally criticized Bush's reaction on the day of 911, a move that undoubtedly instilled a rejuvenated support for the President amongst the American sheeple. If Bin Laden is so clever and so calculated and determined to justify himself to the American people, why can he not fathom that a personal attack could only ever help Bush? I thought it was common knowledge that you always steer clear of personal attacks in debates and arguments. Bush immediately took a six point lead and subsequently won the election. Of course, we shouldn't find it surprising that Bin Laden consistently helps Bush, after all it was the Bush Administration that allowed all members of the Bin Laden family to fly out of America immediately after 911 whilst all other air traffic was grounded. It was Bush himself who signed document W199I, ordering the FBI to back off investigating the Bin Ladens before 911. It was George W Bush who went into business with Bin laden's brother in the 1970s. It is George W Bush's father who is STILL DOING business with the Bin Ladens via the Carlyle Group, an international consulting firm. FBI Special agent Robert Wright broke down when testifying that he had been gagged and could not reveal the true extent of what he knew about the Bush-Bin Laden connection and 911. his lawyer stepped up and said live on C-Span that "The Bush Family vacations with the Bin Ladens". The ties run deep and all lead to money, huge amounts of money. This is how the Bushes do business, this is how they have always done business, they own the best enemies money can buy. Previous to the 2004 election, Bin Laden surfaced on a video on the eve of the two year anniversary of 911. Once again impeccable timing to deliver a video, given that he was reported to be hiding in the mountains of Pakistan. However, the video was quickly recognized by experts as simply a re-hash of old material cobbled together quickly and so amateurish that it could not have fooled anyone. Previous to the beginning of the Iraq war, Bin Laden appeared in February 2003 on an audio tape that was touted as proof positive of Al Qaeda links with Saddam Hussein. In another amazing timing coincidence, the tape came barely a week after Colin powell's attempts to link Al Qaeda and Saddam in his botched presentation of lies and exaggerations before the UN Security Council. In an even more bizarre twist, just hours before the tape was found and aired by AlJazeera, Colin Powell announced in the US Senate that a “Bin Laden tape is coming proving Iraq’s links with Al-Qaeda.” How does Colin Powell know what AlJazeera are going to broadcast before they do? The tape voiced support for Iraq, but did not prove any link between al-Qaeda and the Iraqi leadership. It was described as dubious at best and at worst as an outright fake. Previous to this tape a poor quality release in November 2002, deemed to be completely authentic by US Experts, was determined to be a total fake by the Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence in Switzerland. This time Bin Laden was said to be admitting to recent small scale terror attacks. Yet the voice on the tape was different to around twenty previous recordings of Bin Laden. And of course, then there is the all time classic Bin Laden video, the number one hit from december 2001. The one we like to call the "Fat nosed" Bin Laden video. This one was magically found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. It featured a fat Osama laughing and joking about how he'd carried out 9/11. The video was also mistranslated in order to manipulate viewer opinion and featured "Bin Laden" praising two of the hijackers, only he got their names wrong. This Osama also uses the wrong hand to write with and wears gold rings, a practice totally in opposition to the Muslim faith. Despite the fact that the man in the video looks nothing like Bin Laden, the CIA stood by the video whilst many have declared it an outright fake. And so we come back to this week's tape, Osama's "latest release". Already experts are coming forward to suggest that yet again this is a fake that has been put out at a very convenient time to divert attention away from important events. Professor Bruce Lawrence has described the tape as "like a voice from the grave". He thinks bin Laden is dead and has doubts about the tape. Lawrence recently analyzed more than 20 complete speeches and interviews of the al Qaida leader for his book. He says the new message is missing several key elements. We have previously highlighted the evidence to suggest that Bin Laden is dead. More and more experts are now coming forward with the same opinion. Every time a new tape is released it seems to become shorter and more vague as if whoever is making them is running out of material to work with . If it is conceivable that there is one group of fundamentalist individuals who wish to change the way we live because "they hate our freedom", then it is equally as conceivable that there is another group of richer, more sophisticated fundamentalists that wish to do the same thing themselves and will use the first group as a cover for what they do. They have groomed Bin Laden for their own ends and will continue to use his image (whether he is dead or not) until they no longer have a cause to, this is simply another example of his usefulness in the fake war on terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch22 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 One mustn't forget our PM, Johnny Stinkin' Howard for the same. Thanks John (Not) Bush Blair and Howard the real Axis of Evil bringing death and destruction to peoples around the world. Unprovoked war raining down thousands of tons of high explosives, culster bombs, napalm on people just because they have Black Gold.Then there is shock horror when they attempt to hit back with fertiliser bombs strapped to their bodies. The world is gripped with fear because that's the way the White House wants it, hence it engineered it. The War on Terror is the direct replacement to the profitable war on communism. Only better as it's a war that can never be concluded to have been won. And as we know on going wars sure are profitable for the "Industrial Military Complex" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think many people have wisened up to the claptrap peddled by Bush and Blair. There's a bogeyman on everystreet corner out to get you, unless you vote for me has run its course. I personally look forward to the day of reckoning when Blair is hauled in front of the ICC to answer the war crimes charges. There is no way that we can continue to allow the UK to be involved in taking people away in the dead of night for a few weeks of torture overseas!!!. Blair's insistance in constantly eroding civil liberties is obvious to most. He needs to remove the ability of the people to question him, else in the future he will be taken to task for his crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I'm glad they are making this move, hopefully it might start a chain reaction which gets the oil prices nice and high. But Bush and Blair wants the price of oil to go up and the attack on Iran will have more to do with stopping them selling oil in euros than anything else. You watch, an attack on Iran will push the usd$ up as all know it's an attempt to force the world to only buy oil in usd$. Bush went to far with 9-11 and this is another wrong step. Blair's insistance in constantly eroding civil liberties is obvious to most. He needs to remove the ability of the people to question him, else in the future he will be taken to task for his crimes. What you mean we will all have ID cards and DNA samples taken because we have nothing to hide so then what about government, they have nothing to hide so can we the people be allowed to question them and free access to the bank records of the MP’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf1976 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Slightly off topic but someone in Australia just got into trouble with the police for taking photos near an oil refinery. They were a member of some photography club. It's not against the law to take photos of the refinery itself if you want to, provided that you do it from a public place and don't trespass etc, but the police thought otherwise it seems. And they want to give the police even more powers! Seriously, if anyone wanted to blow up a refinery they wouldn't need to take pictures of it. Why not just get a job there and gain all the info you want instead? For that matter, it's no secret how refineries work and the major components are readily visible from the outside anyway so if they knew what they're doing then any potential terrorists could blow up any refinery without needing information on the specific site. Likewise power stations and gas processing plants - all the main parts are readily identifiable at a glance so whether anyone has photos or not is irrelevant. Major buildings and bridges are different since they're all different in terms of where the supports are, entrances to buildings, goods lifts, where security guards are usually found etc. But who worries about someone taking photos of major bridges or buildings? There wouldn't be too many tourists to Sydney who don't photograph the bridge. That's a far greater threat than taking pictures of oil refineries IMO. This whole terrorism paranoia has gone way too far IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Randall Herbert Good post But putting all these facts together is just one big conspiracy because big brother says so, it’s just a lot of coincidences about the timing of new videos/ audio tapes helping Bush and the CIA founding Bin-Laden. The Sheeple are wakening and justice will be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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