interestrateripoff Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8503770/NHS-pay-bosses-ignore-calls-to-curb-pay-rises.html The Coalition’s health reforms could drive up managers’ pay further by giving executives more control over salaries, according to Incomes Data Services (IDS). The research group, which tracks executive pay, said health service chiefs had routinely ignored “pay guidance”.The Department of Health has told NHS trusts that executive salaries should rise by no more than 1.5 per cent a year, but IDS estimated that average executive pay rose by 4.5 per cent in 2009-10. Based on salaries disclosed in annual reports, the median salary of an NHS trust chief executive in England was £158,800 last year. Austerity isn't for the troughers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFlibble Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 No worries, there's an amply supply of front line nurses that can be culled to make more money available for the pen pushers. It will all work out in the end. Once we replace paper money with leaves there will be plenty for everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 those cuts in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia O'Keeffe Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 those cuts in full. 2% cut in all Public Sector salaries above 4.5 bn GBP per annum Job Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8503770/NHS-pay-bosses-ignore-calls-to-curb-pay-rises.html Austerity isn't for the troughers. What worries me about those words is that the NHS bosses seem to be awarding the pay to themselves. Where is the political control? It seems to me that in the public sector, anyone on 4 times average earnings should have their pay controlled by elected politicians, who should do their job and represent the taxpayer in pay negotiations. All control appears to have been lost here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodle doodle Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 What worries me about those words is that the NHS bosses seem to be awarding the pay to themselves. Where is the political control? It seems to me that in the public sector, anyone on 4 times average earnings should have their pay controlled by elected politicians, who should do their job and represent the taxpayer in pay negotiations. All control appears to have been lost here. agree here, it's like when darling/brown were asking rbs & lloyds banksters not to award themselves too much money. The government are the majority shareholder in one and own the biggest stake in the other, they should be blumming well telling not asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa3 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 What worries me about those words is that the NHS bosses seem to be awarding the pay to themselves. Where is the political control? It seems to me that in the public sector, anyone on 4 times average earnings should have their pay controlled by elected politicians, who should do their job and represent the taxpayer in pay negotiations. All control appears to have been lost here. In most modern democracies that I have looked at in depth, the elected politicians appear to have zero power. Power appears to lie within each bureaucracy. The ministry of health said no pay rises above 1.5%. Yet the officials still raised it more than that anyway. The guys who make it to become leaders in modern democracies are also incredibly weak. If I gave an order and they didn't follow it I would be very angry and set an example. Instead the elected officials are off debating the next thing they will do nothing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 http://www.telegraph...-pay-rises.html Austerity isn't for the troughers. Common Purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 What worries me about those words is that the NHS bosses seem to be awarding the pay to themselves. Where is the political control? It seems to me that in the public sector, anyone on 4 times average earnings should have their pay controlled by elected politicians, who should do their job and represent the taxpayer in pay negotiations. All control appears to have been lost here. well yeah...der!...Politicians are public sector workers, as are their cronies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfk Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 About sums it up for the place I work in too - recently there's been a large merger. Result: More management posts! And promotion for some to Band 8C (equivalent to consultant status), lovely pay rise for some ... f*ck all for the rest of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We all know the basic rule and need to stop being supprised: Turkeys don't vote for christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfk Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We all know the basic rule and need to stop being supprised: Turkeys don't vote for christmas. Quite. Who was in charge in organising the re-structuring - well guess who? The very managers who have got nice secure safe jobs with pay rises? ... in the meantime we have staff leaving, staff on mat leave (no mat leave cover), increased workload, being asked to take on 25% more work (there's not 25% spare capacity) ... somethings got to give Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 What worries me about those words is that the NHS bosses seem to be awarding the pay to themselves. Where is the political control? It seems to me that in the public sector, anyone on 4 times average earnings should have their pay controlled by elected politicians, who should do their job and represent the taxpayer in pay negotiations. All control appears to have been lost here. There is usually an "impartial" (haha) remuneration committee, who will say, yes your job is the same as a FTSE 100 CEO, so descends into a mutual backslapping exercise. Its a bit like corporate governance, The banks had the latter in droves but still managed to go bust. Just gives an aura of respectability but little else. Only confirms to me that the UK only change its ways once the bond markets revolt and turn on sterling, but no signs of that happening. In the meantime its make hay while the sun shines (for some). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 We all know the basic rule and need to stop being supprised: Turkeys don't vote for christmas. I don't mind turkeys not voting for Christmas.. I do mind when they make statements to their buddies in the media two weeks later that they have been forced to cut front line services and it's all the government's fault for not giving them more money. Senior government officials should, IMHO, be asking some very searching questions of any senior civil servants awarding themselves pay rises while simultaneously making staff redundant. Selfish entitlement is very "last decade".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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