jones87 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 There are far fewer civil servants than there were in the 1970s, 1980s and the 1990s.There are currently about 479,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) civil servants – less than 10% of the total FTE workforce in the public sector. FTE is a measure that counts staff according to the proportion of full-time hours that they work. Check evidence: National Office for Statistics – Public sector employment 15 December 2010 http://www.civilservice.gov.uk/about/facts/mythbusters/index.aspx# Is this factually correct??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koala_bear Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Is this factually correct??? There is a difference between civil (for example foreign office or treasury) and public servants (i.e. NHS, quangos, teachers and local government) the graph only covers civil and so excludes a lot of the public services job created by Blair and Brown. It is very subjective if there is no explanation with it. The numbers for civil seem to tie with what I have seen before. Edited January 21, 2011 by koala_bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeholder Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Is this factually correct??? I know that the 1979 figure was 740,000 and the 1997 figure was 470,000 so it looks about right as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeholder Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The NHS employs 1,214,998. http://www.ic.nhs.uk/webfiles/publications/010_Workforce/provisionalmonthlyhchsworkforce/Dec10/Monthly%20HCHS%20Workforce%20Bulletin%20September%202010.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrotull Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Is this factually correct??? The civil service jobs were redefined to be jobs in Executive Agencies or Next Step Agencies. Still non-productive jobs paid for by the taxpayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeholder Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 These numbers are a bit out of date but recently quangos employed 700,000. http://tpa.typepad.com/bettergovernment/2008/05/quangos-the-uns.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_duke_of_hazzard Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 When I was growing up every ******er was a "civil servant". It basically meant your income was from the state. The terminology's changed but more people than ever are employed by the state now than at any time since WWII I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non frog Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 ....more people than ever are employed by the state now than at any time since WWII I'd say. All of Northern Rock, Lloyds TSB and RBS for a start... Great for all those statistical lies in the Tory press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwestsmith2 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 The X axis is badly skewed to make the last 10 years look longer and it's all a bit pointless as the classification changes constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellow Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Around 6 million people 'work' in the public sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW11 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Im guessing at the tail end it's gone up a bit with RBS and Northern Rock et all. Include all those who solely survive on state benefits and that figure would sky-rocket Edited January 21, 2011 by Earthling10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJAR Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 that graph tells me we should have about 100,000 civil servants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJAR Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) edit - double post Edited January 21, 2011 by LJAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) It looks like the Civil Servants are trying to avoid being part of the austerity cuts. "Already on a downward trend you know - so no need to cut". Yeah right Minister. Statistics eh. If they were back to pre war levels it would only be good for the country. Edited January 21, 2011 by billybong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 When I was growing up every ******er was a "civil servant". It basically meant your income was from the state. The terminology's changed but more people than ever are employed by the state now than at any time since WWII I'd say. So people like British Leyland employees would be civl servants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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