Boom Boom Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/16/john-lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolf Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Depends what "best" means. Goldman Sachs used to be a partnership too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 According to economic experts on this forum it isn't a proper company, it is impossible for it to make any profit, it is evil, it is oppressive, inevitably relies upon state control, practices coercion, holds guns to people's heads and keeps its employees as slaves. There is probably some reference to tractor production statistics one could make along with the furious demand that you should read a book by a dead crypto-Austrian if you disagree. I think that is everything covered. Working for John Lewis and getting a nice bonus is hell on earth, possibly worse in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Peter Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 You might want to look at: Open University ESRC Festival Specifically the stuff on Buddhist economics, especially: Discussion which discusses the John Lewis model, but also the other podcasts about the problems with shareholder value (as demonstrated so brilliantly by our financial institutions these past efw years), Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
200p Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I've no problem with John Lewis. Good luck to them. I have joined the Co-op, and will be shopping there. Time to join something that will give you something back and you can be a part owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I like John Lewis. It feels like a pleasant English shop where civil, polite people buy quality products, rather than somewhere that slack-jawed entitlement engines go to wander about rather than have productive hobbies. The service is impeccable, during and after the sale. I took a 50 mile detour just to buy this laptop from a branch for that very reason. Plus, the female staff are more often than not quite bonny. Indeed, the Peterborough branch had an ex page 3 girl working on the make-up counter for some time. Well worth a visit, what-what. Edited March 16, 2010 by tahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogbrush Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 It's an excellent company by all accounts. Titles like "best" are always a bit stupid but I'm sure it's a good place to work. And the point is......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Boom Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 It's an excellent company by all accounts. Titles like "best" are always a bit stupid but I'm sure it's a good place to work. And the point is......? It's a preferable model for a business that does not empower grubby little Arkwrights like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habeas Domus Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I always wonder what part of the John Lewis ethos forces them to build the ugliest buildings in the UK Go into any british city centre and look around for the ugliest huge concrete monstrosity - that'll be John Lewis, it puts me off buying there I dont want to support such hideous architecture. And its not just the 60's buildings, their new ones are just as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogbrush Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) It's a preferable model for a business that does not empower grubby little Arkwrights like you. I much prefer the model I'm using. Edited March 16, 2010 by bogbrush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest absolutezero Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 According to economic experts on this forum it isn't a proper company, it is impossible for it to make any profit, it is evil, it is oppressive, inevitably relies upon state control, practices coercion, holds guns to people's heads and keeps its employees as slaves. There is probably some reference to tractor production statistics one could make along with the furious demand that you should read a book by a dead crypto-Austrian if you disagree. I think that is everything covered. Working for John Lewis and getting a nice bonus is hell on earth, possibly worse in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest absolutezero Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 It's a preferable model for a business that does not empower grubby little Arkwrights like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogbrush Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Just a thought, is Boom Booms new "business" constituted on the John Lewis model? (be careful, you've explained your remuneration practise before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Boom Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 I much prefer the model I'm using. Of course you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogbrush Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Of course you do. Too right. How's your "business" based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Boom Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Too right. How's your "business" based? Salaries + milestones bonuses available as cash or equity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Salaries + milestones bonuses available as cash or equity What do you think your employees/partners/comrades/bruvvers would make of your posts on here? If I had a business partner who posted your emotionalised sixth-form bilge on forums all day, I would be rather concerned for as long as it took me to get a form 288b through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthebuilder Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I much prefer the model I'm using. Quite..I like the sh1t munchers getting their hands dirty while I keep mine clean for scooping up handfuls of caviar at lunchtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogbrush Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Quite..I like the sh1t munchers getting their hands dirty while I keep mine clean for scooping up handfuls of caviar at lunchtime. That's not exactly how I would go about it, but each to his own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthebuilder Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 That's not exactly how I would go about it, but each to his own Nah me neither but I didn't invest money and way too much time to still be head down ar5e up in a trench when I can send the nmw labourer down there. Don't wanna get my hi-viz dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet-Currency Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I like John Lewis. But I am 100% certain that it wouldn't be anywhere near as good for its customers were the High St not such a competitive place. The discipline imposed by tough price competition keeps the staff focused on the business and on customers, not their own wages. That's why there are limits to this ownership model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGun Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 John Lewis, still the quintessential British department store, yet doesn't need dragging kicking and screaming out of the dark ages. Not like some others I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckmojo Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I've no problem with John Lewis. Good luck to them. I have joined the Co-op, and will be shopping there. Time to join something that will give you something back and you can be a part owner. I agree and I have done exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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