Hitler Invades Poland

[Fancypants]

in some of the trade journals, there's been heavy coverage of the coming sh*tstorm this week. Sadly, I cannot provide direct links, or copy & paste at the mo, as my sources are the paper cuttings, but here's a brief synopsis:

• 19% of all mortgages sold in 2005/6 were interest-only with no repayment vehicle. This is approximately 420,000
  
• fraud squad grow increasingly uneasy at "lie to buy" mortgages. Acknowledgement that this problem will be exposed when bouyant market ends.
  
• total amount of borrowing in 2005/6 on IO with no repayment is around £65 billion
  

[sam]

in some of the trade journals, there's been heavy coverage of the coming sh*tstorm this week. Sadly, I cannot provide direct links, or copy & paste at the mo, as my sources are the paper cuttings, but here's a brief synopsis:

• 19% of all mortgages sold in 2005/6 were interest-only with no repayment vehicle. This is approximately 420,000

• fraud squad grow increasingly uneasy at "lie to buy" mortgages. Acknowledgement that this problem will be exposed when bouyant market ends.

• total amount of borrowing in 2005/6 on IO with no repayment is around £65 billion

This Labour Government does not have a problem with anyone breaking the law, it is the ones that get caught that they can't stand.

Sam

[Gone baby gone]

This Labour Government does not have a problem with anyone breaking the law, it is the ones that get caught that they can't stand.

Sam

Unless the crime is selling honours or over-claiming parliamentary expenses. In which case they aren't too bothered.

[Guest barebear]

Back in the days of the last boom/crash somebody I ran into had set up as a mortgage broker that would basically create references/pay slips /change names of the applicants etc.This guy had recently been released from an open prison where he had served time for fraud.He managed to get 3 mortgages for people before he was shut down.His 3 customers were all on benefits and had paid him to get them a mortgage.

The upshot of it all was the customers were allowed to keep their homes/mortgages and were not charged with any offence,the lender being happy that the then DSS would pay the interest on the mortgage.

The broker was charged with fraud, sent back to prison where he trained to be an accountant and is now Gordon Brown.

The last bits a joke obviously but the point is pretty much anything go's when lieing to buy.

[Fancypants]

Back in the days of the last boom/crash somebody I ran into had set up as a mortgage broker that would basically create references/pay slips /change names of the applicants etc.

funnily enough, the article was centred around the example of an organisation doing just that - the bossman was quoted as saying "hey, if people lie to us, its not our fault, we accept their statements in good faith"

still, I suppose its no more forgery than all these pounds sterling that keep miraculously appearing everywhere

[Guest barebear]

If I remember right one of his customers dobbed him in when the DSS queried the name on the mortgage was slighty different to the claimant name and that the claimant had come off of benefits then went back on but this time with a mortgage.Something like that anyway.

Thing is people will just act dumb and swear blind that the information they gave had been changed or that they were coerced in some way.

I think we'll see a lot more of this as interest rates rise and people with grey area mortgages start getting into trouble.

[DabHand]

Back in the days of the last boom/crash somebody I ran into had set up as a mortgage broker that would basically create references/pay slips /change names of the applicants etc.This guy had recently been released from an open prison where he had served time for fraud.He managed to get 3 mortgages for people before he was shut down.His 3 customers were all on benefits and had paid him to get them a mortgage.

The upshot of it all was the customers were allowed to keep their homes/mortgages and were not charged with any offence,the lender being happy that the then DSS would pay the interest on the mortgage.

The broker was charged with fraud, sent back to prison where he trained to be an accountant and is now Gordon Brown.

The last bits a joke obviously but the point is pretty much anything go's when lieing to buy.

I knew that was a joke when you said "accountant". Brown doesnt have any economic qualifications. He has a degree in History...oh dear, can you hear the alarm bells ringing yet?

[StuB]

Back in the days of the last boom/crash somebody I ran into had set up as a mortgage broker that would basically create references/pay slips /change names of the applicants etc.This guy had recently been released from an open prison where he had served time for fraud.He managed to get 3 mortgages for people before he was shut down.His 3 customers were all on benefits and had paid him to get them a mortgage.

The upshot of it all was the customers were allowed to keep their homes/mortgages and were not charged with any offence,the lender being happy that the then DSS would pay the interest on the mortgage.

The broker was charged with fraud, sent back to prison where he trained to be an accountant and is now Gordon Brown.

The last bits a joke obviously but the point is pretty much anything go's when lieing to buy.

Last bits a joke.. you mean Gordon Brown surely?

[GCS15]

funnily enough, the article was centred around the example of an organisation doing just that - the bossman was quoted as saying "hey, if people lie to us, its not our fault, we accept their statements in good faith"

Which bank? I'm so there "Hey I deposited 1 billion pounds into my account this morning I want to draw some of it out."

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

This Labour Government does not have a problem with anyone breaking the law, it is the ones that get caught that they can't stand.

Sam

Especially if you're a Russian asset-stripping criminal on the right side - thousands of whom are now resident in London.

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/262/

Ooooh, all that money must be a real turn on for Tone.

If I simply stood anywhere near Boris Berezovsky, I’m sure my hair would fall out and my skin would turn yellow.

Alexander Litvinenko is simply the last in a long line of stiffs associated with Boris, a line of corpses that stretches back to the mid-nineties. One died from a mysterious nerve toxin applied to the rim of his coffee cup.

If you want to know about Boris Berezovsky, ask former Forbes editor Paul Klebnikov. Except you can’t, because he was blown away in 2004, shortly after writing up Berezovsky’s bullet-ridden bio, ‘Godfather Of Crime’.

The Litvinenko case is notable for the disinformation spread by the UK’s press, where the ‘facts’ have changed daily. Who makes this stuff up? Why, story and pictures supplied by The Godfather’s PR Firm - one with the sole aim of naming the killer as the Kremlin. Or might that just be a smokescreen for a mafia hit? At the very least, it’s a case of Pottinger calling the kettle black.

The media first linked Litvinenko with the poisoning of Yushchenko. How did that come about? Well, PR just happened to contact John Henry, the toxicologist, to put the Thallium rumour about. Shamefaced John now regrets his diagnosis and admits he was misled about aspects of the case. He stood near Boris and, as the Guardian put it today, got his fingers burned.

etc..............

Forces of darkness within the world of PR at it again...

Edited November 24, 2006 by gruffydd

[Sledgehead]

Especially if you're a Russian asset-stripping criminal on the right side - thousands of whom are now resident in London.

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/262/

Ooooh, all that money must be a real turn on for Tone.

If I simply stood anywhere near Boris Berezovsky, I’m sure my hair would fall out and my skin would turn yellow.

Alexander Litvinenko is simply the last in a long line of stiffs associated with Boris, a line of corpses that stretches back to the mid-nineties. One died from a mysterious nerve toxin applied to the rim of his coffee cup.

If you want to know about Boris Berezovsky, ask former Forbes editor Paul Klebnikov. Except you can’t, because he was blown away in 2004, shortly after writing up Berezovsky’s bullet-ridden bio, ‘Godfather Of Crime’.

The Litvinenko case is notable for the disinformation spread by the UK’s press, where the ‘facts’ have changed daily. Who makes this stuff up? Why, story and pictures supplied by The Godfather’s PR Firm - one with the sole aim of naming the killer as the Kremlin. Or might that just be a smokescreen for a mafia hit? At the very least, it’s a case of Pottinger calling the kettle black.

The media first linked Litvinenko with the poisoning of Yushchenko. How did that come about? Well, PR just happened to contact John Henry, the toxicologist, to put the Thallium rumour about. Shamefaced John now regrets his diagnosis and admits he was misled about aspects of the case. He stood near Boris and, as the Guardian put it today, got his fingers burned.

etc..............

Forces of darkness within the world of PR at it again...

gruf - you raise some very interesting points. Another interesting point is how keen our government is keen to play down any threat to the public. Isn't it strange how they get us sh!t scared about terror and dirty bombs when there are no dirty bombs and the terror threat has only been manifest once. Then as soon as somebody dies of radiation poisoning in suspicious circumstances, but not linked in anyway to anyone "a bit brown", hey presto, there is no threat!

I mean, how do they know?

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

I've been suspicious about this whole radiation poisoning story from the start - immediatey knew there was PR involvement somewhere, so this story was v interesting.

[jonewer]

so this story was v interesting.

Very interesting indeed.

The problem is though, Po210 can only be manufactured with a nuclear reactor or particle accelerator. Not even the russian mob has one of these. It is possible for the mob to have sequesterd some though, but the difficulties in handling what is an incrediably dangerous substance still points to a state-sponsered operation (which is entirely legal in russian law, oh by the way)

[Buylowsellhigh]

Whenever there are Jewish Bankers involved, murder and intrigue are never far away.

If the Kremlin killed this Alexander Litvinenko guy, then why are Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Abramovich Berezovsky, who are guilty of much worse crimes against the Russian state, still alive ? Litvinenko is such a small player in the game, why would Putin risk bringing so much attention to himself for such an small prize ? Abhramovich Berezovsky has confirmed that traces of radiation had been found at his offices in London's West End, explaining that Litvinenko had visited him the day he was allegedly poisoned.

Berezovsky seems to be a dangerous guy to be around. He also has motive for revenge and vilification of Putin for driving the Jewish Bankers, himself included, out of Russia and into exile in the UK;

"The Gorbachev period of liberalization, starting in the late 1980s, paved the way for riches later on. In particular, in 1987, the Soviet financial system was liberalized, and most of the would-be tycoons(JEWS) started up their own banks.

When the new Russian economy was born in early 1992, the young tycoons profited handsomely by speculating against the ruble-dollar exchange rate -- often using the government's money. Since Russia had no formal treasury, its deposits were made with "authorized" banks, including those owned by the oligarchs.

The link between power and finance grew tighter in 1995, when Yeltsin approved a project called "loans for shares," which involved a swap: The bankers loaned money to the cash-strapped government in exchange for shares in some of Russia's lucrative enterprises. If the government failed to pay back the loans, the bankers could sell off the companies, and they did -- to themselves. Many of the auctions were rigged from the inside.

Potanin was one of the biggest winners. His bank, Uneximbank, got Norilsk Nickel, one of the world's largest producers of nickel, cobalt and platinum group metals. He also won an oil company, Sidanko, and the Novolipetsky Metallurgical Co. Khodorkovsky snared Yukos, Russia's second-biggest oil company. Berezovsky got Sibneft, another large oil company. Separately, over the next two years, the moguls also gained control over most of Russia's mass media.

In the run-up to the 1996 election, the tycoons contributed millions of dollars to Yeltsin's reelection campaign, spurred on by Abhramovich Berezovsky, who later boasted that the seven members of the club controlled half of Russia's economy. It was an overstatement but reflected their hubris.

After the election, according to several sources, the tycoons met and decided to insert one of their own into government. They debated who -- and choose Potanin, who became deputy prime minister. One reason they choose Potanin was that he is not Jewish, and most of the rest of them are, and feared a backlash against the Jewish bankers.

As Russia's finances worsened, the oligarchs also sunk into trouble. Several of them had pledged Russian stocks and bonds as collateral for hard-currency loans from Western creditors. When the value of the Russian assets fell, they could not meet the payments. http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovern...financiers.html

Even the Telegraph seems to have sussed it; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../27/nspy127.xml

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[jonewer]

Whenever there are Jewish Bankers involved, murder and intrigue are never far away.

Thats right Buylowsellhigh, its all them Jews thats the problem.

Stabbed us in the back they did.

[Guest d23]

Whenever there are Jewish Bankers involved, murder and intrigue are never far away.

If the Kremlin killed this Alexander Litvinenko guy, then why are Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Abramovich Berezovsky, who are guilty of much worse crimes against the Russian state, still alive ? Litvinenko is such a small player in the game, why would Putin risk bringing so much attention to himself for such an small prize ? Abhramovich Berezovsky has confirmed that traces of radiation had been found at his offices in London's West End, explaining that Litvinenko had visited him the day he was allegedly poisoned.

Berezovsky seems to be a dangerous guy to be around. He also has motive for revenge and vilification of Putin for driving the Jewish Bankers, himself included, out of Russia and into exile in the UK;

"The Gorbachev period of liberalization, starting in the late 1980s, paved the way for riches later on. In particular, in 1987, the Soviet financial system was liberalized, and most of the would-be tycoons(JEWS) started up their own banks.

When the new Russian economy was born in early 1992, the young tycoons profited handsomely by speculating against the ruble-dollar exchange rate -- often using the government's money. Since Russia had no formal treasury, its deposits were made with "authorized" banks, including those owned by the oligarchs.

The link between power and finance grew tighter in 1995, when Yeltsin approved a project called "loans for shares," which involved a swap: The bankers loaned money to the cash-strapped government in exchange for shares in some of Russia's lucrative enterprises. If the government failed to pay back the loans, the bankers could sell off the companies, and they did -- to themselves. Many of the auctions were rigged from the inside.

Potanin was one of the biggest winners. His bank, Uneximbank, got Norilsk Nickel, one of the world's largest producers of nickel, cobalt and platinum group metals. He also won an oil company, Sidanko, and the Novolipetsky Metallurgical Co. Khodorkovsky snared Yukos, Russia's second-biggest oil company. Berezovsky got Sibneft, another large oil company. Separately, over the next two years, the moguls also gained control over most of Russia's mass media.

In the run-up to the 1996 election, the tycoons contributed millions of dollars to Yeltsin's reelection campaign, spurred on by Abhramovich Berezovsky, who later boasted that the seven members of the club controlled half of Russia's economy. It was an overstatement but reflected their hubris.

After the election, according to several sources, the tycoons met and decided to insert one of their own into government. They debated who -- and choose Potanin, who became deputy prime minister. One reason they choose Potanin was that he is not Jewish, and most of the rest of them are, and feared a backlash against the Jewish bankers.

As Russia's finances worsened, the oligarchs also sunk into trouble. Several of them had pledged Russian stocks and bonds as collateral for hard-currency loans from Western creditors. When the value of the Russian assets fell, they could not meet the payments. http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovern...financiers.html

Even the Telegraph seems to have sussed it; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../27/nspy127.xml

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this is a pretty unsavoury post pretty much straight from the opening sentence.

not sure you do much for your credibility when you post an article from, and link to a site called jewwatch.com

oh dear.

[Buylowsellhigh]

not sure you do much for your credibility when you post an article from, and link to a site called jewwatch.com

Being a fair kind of guy, I've spent the best part of six months trying to disprove the bulk of the literature that's presented on the Jew-watch website without much success.

Oh Dear.

If you think you can do better, be my guest,

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[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

Very interesting indeed.

The problem is though, Po210 can only be manufactured with a nuclear reactor or particle accelerator. Not even the russian mob has one of these. It is possible for the mob to have sequesterd some though, but the difficulties in handling what is an incrediably dangerous substance still points to a state-sponsered operation (which is entirely legal in russian law, oh by the way)

Russian security service man’s death linked to nuclear thefts

Check this: http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=1149

As British police drew up a list of witnesses for questioning over the death of a former Russian security service officer, experts warned that thefts from nuclear facilities in the former Soviet Union were a major problem.

A senior source at the United Nations nuclear inspectorate, the International Atomic Energy Agency, told The Observer he had no doubt that the killing of Litvinenko was an 'organised operation' which bore all the hallmarks of a foreign intelligence agency. The expert in radioactive materials said the ability to obtain polonium 210 and the knowledge needed to use it to kill Litvinenko meant that the attack could not have been carried out by a 'lone assassin'.

Atomic industry experts in Russia say that the Polonium-210 that was used to poison Litvinenko could almost be produced at home. “There are many ways of obtaining that isotope,” former Russian Minister of Atomic Energy Evgeny Adamov told Kommersant. “You need bismuth, which is openly available, and a source of neutrons, an accessible medical instrument, for example. The irradiation of bismuth with neutrons produces Polonium.” Adamov said that the poisoners of Litvinenko could have obtained Polonium-210 “anywhere at all”. “The substance is inconvenient for terrorist because, besides being radioactive, it is highly toxic,” Adamov continued. “Although the alpha-particle emission of Polonium-210 has no deep penetration ability, if it enters the human body, it leads to extremely serious consequences”.

Polonium-210 is accessible not only to terrorists and spies, the paper marks. Small quantities of the substance can be obtained for scientific purposes, among other ways, over the Internet from the American company United Nuclear of Sandia Park, New Mexico. That company will deliver Polonium-210 in a hermetically-sealed capsule within 3 to 14 days for $69. The only condition for purchase is that it be shipped to an American address. The site indicates that the company does not ship abroad, Kommersant notes.

Edited November 30, 2006 by gruffydd

[jonewer]

There are many ways of obtaining that isotope,” former Russian Minister of Atomic Energy Evgeny Adamov told Kommersant. “You need bismuth, which is openly available, and a source of neutrons, an accessible medical instrument, for example. The irradiation of bismuth with neutrons produces Polonium.”

Snip........

That company will deliver Polonium-210 in a hermetically-sealed capsule within 3 to 14 days for $69. The only condition for purchase is that it be shipped to an American address. The site indicates that the company does not ship abroad, Kommersant notes

Be careful what you read in the grauniad.

While the first point is true enough, you cant just do this in your garage. Unfortunately you need a rather large processing plant to do this - you would also need gas centrifuges to purify it and you dont find those buy-one-get-one-free at you local tescos. Worldwide production of polonium 210 is only 100 grams a year, which gives you an idea of how rare, expensive and how difficult it is to manufacture this material.

The second point is also true enough. Though what the esteemed lefty rag doesnt tell you is that the quantities available are very small indeed (and hermetically sealed), calibrating very sensitive scientific instuments, for the purpose of. You would need around 10,000 of these samples to get a lethal dose which would be hard to do without attracting some suspicion. IN addition, you would need substantial processing equipment to extract and concentrate the hermetically sealed samples (bear in mind, it only takes a dot of this stuff to kill you).

If you are wondering, yes I have an MSc in molecular biology and used to handle radioactive isotopes on a daily basis.

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

THanks for info - can't rely on the press these days!!!

[Guest d23]

Being a fair kind of guy, I've spent the best part of six months trying to disprove the bulk of the literature that's presented on the Jew-watch website without much success.

Oh Dear.

If you think you can do better, be my guest,

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judging by the quote in your signature "Fascism will come to America, but likely under another name, perhaps anti-fascism" i somehow doubt you tried that hard..............

you could have started with that sites holocaust denial or its defence of Josef Mengele maybe?

[frugalista]

Especially if you're a Russian asset-stripping criminal on the right side - thousands of whom are now resident in London.

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/262/

Ooooh, all that money must be a real turn on for Tone.

If I simply stood anywhere near Boris Berezovsky, I’m sure my hair would fall out and my skin would turn yellow.

Alexander Litvinenko is simply the last in a long line of stiffs associated with Boris, a line of corpses that stretches back to the mid-nineties. One died from a mysterious nerve toxin applied to the rim of his coffee cup.

If you want to know about Boris Berezovsky, ask former Forbes editor Paul Klebnikov. Except you can’t, because he was blown away in 2004, shortly after writing up Berezovsky’s bullet-ridden bio, ‘Godfather Of Crime’.

The Litvinenko case is notable for the disinformation spread by the UK’s press, where the ‘facts’ have changed daily. Who makes this stuff up? Why, story and pictures supplied by The Godfather’s PR Firm - one with the sole aim of naming the killer as the Kremlin. Or might that just be a smokescreen for a mafia hit? At the very least, it’s a case of Pottinger calling the kettle black.

The media first linked Litvinenko with the poisoning of Yushchenko. How did that come about? Well, PR just happened to contact John Henry, the toxicologist, to put the Thallium rumour about. Shamefaced John now regrets his diagnosis and admits he was misled about aspects of the case. He stood near Boris and, as the Guardian put it today, got his fingers burned.

etc..............

Forces of darkness within the world of PR at it again...

watch your back tonight, mate.

frug.

[Buylowsellhigh]

judging by the quote in your signature "Fascism will come to America, but likely under another name, perhaps anti-fascism" i somehow doubt you tried that hard..............

Huey Long was referring to what he termed 'back-door fascism', whereby governments introduce fascist legislation as a deterant against the threat from an imagined enemy ...giving up your freedoms to protect your freedom, etc. Which pretty much describes what's been happening in the US for the past 5 years.

The Patriot Act, and the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003 are nothing more than blueprints for tyranny. They strip American citizens of their rights and grant the government and its private agents immunity from wrongdoing; http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/policestate.html

you could have started with that sites holocaust denial

Making an informed decision on such an important matter has been made difficult in the absence of informed debate, which is hardly surprising since a lengthy prison sentence awaits those who simply discuss these issues.

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[Guest d23]

Huey Long was referring to what he termed 'back-door fascism', whereby governments introduce fascist legislation as a deterant against the threat from an imagined enemy ...giving up your freedoms to protect your freedom, etc. Which pretty much describes what's been happening in the US for the past 5 years.

The Patriot Act, and the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003 are nothing more than blueprints for tyranny. They strip American citizens of their rights and grant the government and its private agents immunity from wrongdoing; http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthurston/policestate.html

Making an informed decision on such an important matter has been made difficult in the absence of informed debate, which is hardly surprising since a lengthy prison sentence awaits those who simply discuss these issues.

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This is all massively off topic but I find it hard to believe you link to and defend a site that contains the following:

1) an article called "Defanging the Jews: A Solution for the Jewish Problem" which advocates all Jews having to be officially registered as Jews and not being allowed jobs in Finance, medicine, charity work or serve as politicians, teachers etc etc. Oh, and they'd also not be allowed to own property, antiques, works of art or jewellery.

2) Nice links to volume 1 of Mein Kampf and selected quotes from Hitler on the subject of the 'jewish problem' in the 100% hugely anti jewish section for writings on jews by gentiles.

3) Its stated position is that Jews are responsible for every major war in the last 150 years, that Judaism hates all races of humanity (including white Christians, Blacks, and Muslims), and dominates the world by proxy through the United States. In addition, the website claims that the former Soviet Union, the United States, the former Soviet CIS states, Austria, Germany, the United Kingdom, Australia, and France are "Jewish Occupied Governments." It claims Communism was invented by the Jewish Karl Marx and was a Jewish plot to enslave the world, that Jews control the world finance system and the media. It also claims that the "All Anti-Christian Jewish Red Commisars" killed 100 million Christians in Russia from 1917-1945 under the orders of "Trotsky, the Jewish Commissar of Commissars".

You do nothing for your credibility by defending that sites stance on jews or by linking to it; in doing so you join many hundreds of neo nazi sites that love Jew watch.

I'm not jewish, I don't disagree with Jewwatchs's existence as I also believe free speech is an important benchmark of a democracy, but I do reserve the right to find it odious and not the best reference point in any 'debate'

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[Buylowsellhigh]

I don't disagree with Jewwatchs's existence as I also believe free speech is an important benchmark of a democracy, but I do reserve the right to find it odious and not the best reference point in any 'debate'

Fair enough, but the idea that someone has joined the neo nazi's simply by linking to a particular website is unrealistic. Jew-watch is a testimony to it's owners opinions, not mine. In the spirit of free speech, which you yourself advocate, you may choose to disregard it's contents or not. And worrying about my credibility is hardly credible. We have'nt even met.

With regards to "Jews are responsible for every major war in the last 150 years" I have found that essentially there is much to consider, simply because the financing that was the necessary catalyst in the production of these wars was unattainable outwith the auspices of the Jewish Central Banking institutions. For example, how could Germany, which was so ravished from a totally devastating war and subsequent turmoil from the Weimar Republic hyper-inflation distress, ever hope to realistically fund another war in such a broken state ? At a time when it's citizens could barely scrape together the price of a loaf of bread: And who were indebted in reparations to it's victor's into eternity ? Germany should have totally disappeared off the economical map for a hundred years after the shafting it received at Versaille, and at the hands of that enquiries predominately Jewish judicial btw. Instead, they 'magically' aquired the funds that facilitated even greater mayhem and destruction that eventually claimed the lives of 60 million tragic souls from 1939-48, Jews and all ! That funding was provided through affiliations of The Federal Reserve Bank of New York ! http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wa.../chapter_07.htm My point is this, massive wars require massive financing. Prevent the financing, and you prevent the wars.

If these merchants want to make a lazy buck at my expense, then so be it. Frankly, I've better things to do with my time than regulate global finance and politics. However, I absolutely draw the line when the profit margin becomes a killing field for political expediency. Who with any modicum of decency would'nt ?

You sound more concerned with the messenger than you are with the message. It seems like you consider the risk of offending sensibilities of faith a more heinous crime than the sanctioned genocide of millions.

Media ownership

America; http://www.christianparty.net/mediaownership.htm

UK; http://www.theunjustmedia.com/masters%20of%20the%20media.htm

Governments

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/clilist.htm

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bushlist.htm

Benjamin Freedman. A very well connected Jew talks about Zionism.

http://www.natall.com/free-speech/fs956b.html

http://www.natvan.com/american-dissident-v.../adv101594.html

Twentieth-century history, as recorded in Establishment textbooks and journals, is inaccurate. It is a history which is based solely upon those official documents which various Administrations have seen fit to release for public consumption.

But an accurate history cannot be based on a selective release of documentary archives. Accuracy requires access to all documents. In practice, as previously classified documents in the U.S. State Department files, the British Foreign Office, and the German Foreign Ministry archives and other depositories are acquired, a new version of history has emerged; the prevailing Establishment version is seen to be, not only inaccurate, but designed to hide a pervasive fabric of deceit and immoral conduct; http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-ch12.html

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