crash2006 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.tradereform.org/2011/06/china-wants-to-construct-a-50-square-mile-self-sustaining-city-south-of-boise-idaho/ The planned “self-sustaining city” in Idaho would include manufacturing facilities, warehouses, retail centers and large numbers of homes for Chinese workers. Basically it would be a slice of communist China dropped right into the middle of the United States. Who are the slaves now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilham Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Who needs Tanks when you have Banks?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 In the 20th century we called these Military bases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migrant Mother Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 and another closer to hand.... Planning application close at hand for China development A planning application for the massive Chinese world enterprise hub in Athlone is close at hand, the Westmeath Independent has learned. It's understood that the passing of the Creggan local area plan in the last few weeks has paved the way for proponents of the scheme to lodge a formal planning application in the coming weeks. Such is the scale of the development that Westmeath County Council is believed to be recruiting new planning staff to help deal with the project. The Chinese developers behind Creggan's proposed Euro Chinese Trading Hub want it "to become the greatest commercial and trade centre, tour centre, cultural centre, amusement centre and international conference centre in Europe". The project could attract between 20,000 and 35,000 visitors to Athlone each week, and create up to 10,000 jobs, if it comes to fruition. Westmeath County Council's decision to approve the draft Creggan area plan on Monday effectively lays the planning framework for any subsequent planning application. The moves to introduce a special levy on all development on the east side of Athlone in order to finance a €21.95m Loughandunning relief road is another element in a complex array of moves required to facilitate the Chinese world class enterprise hub development . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepactonius Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Isn't it a desert down there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The Chinese developers behind Creggan's proposed Euro Chinese Trading Hub want it "to become the greatest commercial and trade centre, tour centre, cultural centre, amusement centre and international conference centre in Europe". It always is the greatest when they're seeking planning. After it's built it usually turns out *******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybong Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 So at Boise amongst other things that might happen they'll be able to make more cheap stuff under Chinese working conditions and law? using Chinese workers to sell to the US but without the transport costs and likely with cheap/subsidised housing etc to help to keep wages down. Even if it's "self sustaining" they'll still be likely using the dollar within the area I don't suppose it'll be so self sustaining that they'd be using Chinese currency there but who knows. I imagine it'll be an ideal scheme to funnel a lot of Chinese workers to the US and then to leak out of the "self sustaining" zone to compete with US workers all around. It'll not be so "self sustaining" that it'll not need to be supplied with energy etc or maybe it'll have it's own power station etc. Maybe it'll not be that "self sustaining". How long before they're asking for the original "self sustaining" zone to be increased in size and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglybear Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Not at all like the Shanghai International Settlement, then. Wonder what the Mandarin Chinese is for "revenge is sweet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Not at all like the Shanghai International Settlement, then. Wonder what the Mandarin Chinese is for "revenge is sweet". 復仇是甜蜜 pronounced sukitupyankee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyMe Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 So at Boise amongst other things that might happen they'll be able to make more cheap stuff under Chinese working conditions and law? using Chinese workers to sell to the US but without the transport costs and likely with cheap/subsidised housing etc to help to keep wages down. Even if it's "self sustaining" they'll still be likely using the dollar within the area I don't suppose it'll be so self sustaining that they'd be using Chinese currency there but who knows. I imagine it'll be an ideal scheme to funnel a lot of Chinese workers to the US and then to leak out of the "self sustaining" zone to compete with US workers all around. It'll not be so "self sustaining" that it'll not need to be supplied with energy etc or maybe it'll have it's own power station etc. Maybe it'll not be that "self sustaining". How long before they're asking for the original "self sustaining" zone to be increased in size and so on. It is being done all over the UK with companies buying up accommodation or providing accommodation for their migrant labour workforce to work from. That keeps prices high, but lowers their costs - a process which they hope to benefit from, to the detriment of the population on nearly all fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_ichikawa Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Who'd have thought it insourcing. This is probably a preemptive strike against the up coming protectionism. Much like Toyota build plants in the UK to get around quotas. While at the same time shipping cars over in containers which were 99.999% complete and sticking a made in the UK badge on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 (edited) Who'd have thought it insourcing. This is probably a preemptive strike against the up coming protectionism. Much like Toyota build plants in the UK to get around quotas. While at the same time shipping cars over in containers which were 99.999% complete and sticking a made in the UK badge on them. The point about getting around protectionism is that the products are assembled by indigenous Labour. Even at Longbridge the MG "kits" are assembled by Brummies. UK labour and to some extent management is used at Toyota, Nissan and Honda. At least its transparent though, unlike the illicit insourcing we have experienced in the UK, especially in the IT field where Indian workers have been brought in and put up in BTL's. Edited July 2, 2011 by John Steed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_ichikawa Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The point about getting around protectionism is that the products are assembled by indigenous Labour. Even at Longbridge the MG "kits" are assembled by Brummies. Same with Toyota, Nissan and Honda. In the 1980s and 1990s maybe, future plants will have robots and lots of them, the indigenous labour involved in these plants will be the security guard at the gate (until that is automated) or the guy who presses the On button on the robot production line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Self sustaining? So they're going to grow their own water are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Self sustaining? So they're going to grow their own water are they? maybe they will just get large shipments of dehydrated water for the city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 In the 20th century we called these Military bases... In the 12th Century BC we called these Trojan Horses..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R K Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 So at Boise amongst other things that might happen they'll be able to make more cheap stuff under Chinese working conditions and law? using Chinese workers to sell to the US but without the transport costs and likely with cheap/subsidised housing etc to help to keep wages down. Even if it's "self sustaining" they'll still be likely using the dollar within the area I don't suppose it'll be so self sustaining that they'd be using Chinese currency there but who knows. I imagine it'll be an ideal scheme to funnel a lot of Chinese workers to the US and then to leak out of the "self sustaining" zone to compete with US workers all around. It'll not be so "self sustaining" that it'll not need to be supplied with energy etc or maybe it'll have it's own power station etc. Maybe it'll not be that "self sustaining". How long before they're asking for the original "self sustaining" zone to be increased in size and so on. An interesting move. Similar to what the Japanese did 20 years ago. The problem is that they are forced to accumulate all these dollar assets as a function of their trade surplus and which underpins the demand for US bonds. Last time around that led to the expansion of lending into the housing markets resulting in the bubble of course. Now that's blow intself out it appears they want to reinvest more directly in infrastructure within the US and Europe (as the Japs did with their car and electronics plants). A more helpful outcome for the US might be if China invested in updating the decaying US infrastructure directly, rather than building new towns and manufacturing hubs and exporting their labour force, which as you point out, will increase labour supply locally in the US. Their money their rules? US and Europe need to decide whether they're going to do what Thatcher did with the Japs and welcome them with open arms or turn to protectionist policies. Having watched Cameron sucking Wen's d1ck I think it's pretty clear which way it's going to go, at least in UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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