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House prices in most of the Saddleworth villages suggests it's solid ConDem territory. I can't see Farage's M25 smarm going down well in Delph, though he might get two cheers if he plays the xenophobia card at the Oldham side.

Its Oldham East and Saddleworth. Was a 3 way marginal pre Woolas' shenanigans.

All 3 parties have problems here

Lab - Woolas contamination

LD - coalition and local infrastructure collapsing (see recent goings on in Rochdale council)

Con - The Cuts

Riding a wave of anti EU sentiment could see a UKIP candidate returned.

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UKIP mainly come across as trolling bullies, even though Farage is right about a toppling Euro currency, but I'm not really impressed. Not only are they impractical and are a one note political movement fueled by mostly aimless discontent, some of the members are homophobic. I don't really like the EU as it is even though I essentially like the idea of a European confederation, I find the EU hard to understand and boring, it is seemingly yet another job and prosperity blackhole for Britain, but I won't waste my time with UKIP ever again.

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Hes trying to bring it down because it is weak now and he wants more power. Feathering your own nest to the extent that he has then turning the other way is only believable if you give your ill gotten gains back. Ill probably turn to god on my death bed lol.

To the previous poster to the above quoted comment- there was no doubt whatsoever. He was imagining the beams of sunlight shining out of his own **** for sure.

Farage could have had a very bright future in the conservative party with all the backhanders and perks that go with being an MP. He could have gone back to the city to make his millions, he didnt.

If there is one thing Farage is not, its a career politician. He is an old fashioned conviction politician who has been consistent throughout, even in the early days of UKIP when its future and funding was far from secure, he has worked tirelessly for what he believes. If he wanted an easy life and guaranteed income he had ample oppurtunities to take it, but he didnt.

Its got nothing to do with the EU being weak. He has been vocal with his attacks from the outset, only now, because the EU is weak, more are starting to sit up and take notice.

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House prices in most of the Saddleworth villages suggests it's solid ConDem territory. I can't see Farage's M25 smarm going down well in Delph, though he might get two cheers if he plays the xenophobia card at the Oldham side.

The irony is that the most xenophobic thing is our current immigration policy. Live one mile west of the Belarus border in Poland you have almost unmitigated resident and work rights in the UK, live one mile east, you have practically none.

The only border that should matter is the British border. Shouldnt matter if you come from France or Fiji, you should be have equal immigration treatment.

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The only border that should matter is the British border. Shouldnt matter if you come from France or Fiji, you should be have equal immigration treatment.

In my humble whatever, Britain has a duty to commonwealth citizens. The way the gurkhas have been treated for instance, is beyond belief.

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UKIP mainly come across as trolling bullies, even though Farage is right about a toppling Euro currency, but I'm not really impressed. Not only are they impractical and are a one note political movement fueled by mostly aimless discontent, some of the members are homophobic. I don't really like the EU as it is even though I essentially like the idea of a European confederation, I find the EU hard to understand and boring, it is seemingly yet another job and prosperity blackhole for Britain, but I won't waste my time with UKIP ever again.

Oh jesus christ, yawn.

So. If I find a single Labour MP who is homophobic, will you disown them, too?

This is just pathetic. Is this really the full extent of what you don't like about them? Can't you come up with something with a little more bite?

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In my humble whatever, Britain has a duty to commonwealth citizens. The way the gurkhas have been treated for instance, is beyond belief.

The Gurkhas are from Nepal. Nepal is not a commonwealth country.

The Gurkhas are mercenaries who are well paid by us and able to retire very comfortably in their own country. Why the bloody hell should they be allowed to come here?

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Another of Farage`s best speeches.

Beaverbrook`s Crusader Rises From The Grave

I know it is the Express but Nigel and UKIP must be ecstatic :D

THE Daily Express is the first national newspaper to call for Britain to leave the European Union.

From now on, our energies will be directed to furthering the cause of those who believe Britain is Better Off Out.

The famous and symbolic Crusader who adorns our masthead will become the figurehead of the struggle to repatriate British sovereignty from a political project that has comprehensively failed people right across Europe.

After far too many years as the victims of Brussels larceny, bullying, over-regulation and all-round interference, the time has come for the British people to win back their country and restore legitimacy and accountability to their political process.

Following the debacle of the Lisbon Treaty – disgracefully imposed upon the public without the referendum they were promised by the three main political parties – many had expected matters European to take a lower profile in British politics.

But the opposite has been true as those on board the European gravy train have mounted one power grab after another. At a time of austerity throughout Europe they have expanded their already bloated budgets, pushing Britain’s disproportionate contributions even higher.

And despite not being part of the failing eurozone, British taxpayers have learned that under Brussels rules agreed to by Labour after it had lost the election they are liable to help bail out economies wrecked by the single currency. A payment of up to £10billion for Ireland is apparently just the start with speculators now starting to target the embattled economy of Portugal.

Despite unemployment across Europe averaging more than 10 per cent, Brussels continues to propose new job-destroying regulations and conspire to turn the whole EU into a zone of high taxation.

It is also seeking to take an ever more dominant role in border control issues, leaving its member states powerless to control migrant flows not only from other EU countries but from Asia and Africa too.

The European Court of Human Rights has continued to trample on British justice – preventing the deportation of terror suspects and demanding that convicted prisoners are given the vote.

Withdrawal from the EU should be accompanied by a withdrawal from the jurisdiction of this alien, pan-European tribunal so that matters of British justice are decided once again in British courts.

Ever since the British people were bounced into ratifying membership of the Common Market in 1975, after the political class had taken us in with no direct mandate, that institution has been stealing our rights to self-determination, redmodelling itself in turn as the European Economic Community, the European Community and lately as the European Union. Upon a wafer-thin permission for economic cooperation has been built a blueprint for the United States of Europe.

Almost nothing the EU has proposed or enacted has benefited Britain – our trawler fleet has been devastated by the Common Fisheries Policy while our taxpayers have found themselves massively subsidising inefficient French and Polish farmers under the Common Agricultural Policy.

The European Exchange Rate Mechanism – the forerunner to the single currency – caused a deep recession in Britain that was only ended by the removal of Sterling from its deadening grip.

This newspaper has always been hostile to the dilution of national sovereignty that EU membership entailed, but it has also always acknowledged that economic arguments were key.

So long as there was a case to be made that leaving the EU would risk jobs and investment in Britain there was a powerful brake on thoughts of leaving altogether.

But since the ERM disaster 20 years ago that economic case has utterly collapsed. We were told staying out of the eurozone would be a financial disaster yet it is now clear beyond doubt that the opposite was true – joining it would have been catastrophic, removing Britain’s ability to vary its interest and exchange rates to suit economic circumstances and plunging us into a depression.

The past two decades of European integration have turned mainland Europe’s economies from some of the world’s industrial powerhouses into also-rans, stuck in the global slow lane. Only Germany has prospered in the euro – thanks to the single currency locking its neighbours into exchange rates they are unable to compete at.

And now the price of belonging to the EU, in terms of surrendered sovereignty, is to be further raised with countries like Ireland effectively having their public spending and borrowing decisions made by the European Central Bank in Frankfurt rather than by their electorates.

While the EU has spread economic sclerosis through its member states the two richest countries in Europe have remained outside: Norway and Switzerland have stayed as the lynch-pins of the European Free Trade Area – able to import from and export to the EU freely without being subjected to its federalist ambitions.

Were Britain to break free of Brussels there is no doubt that such a happy status would be open to us. As a heavy net importer from the EU we are simply too important a market for the EU nations to risk cutting ties with.

Taking Britain out of the EU should not be seen as a move to “Little Englandism”. On the contrary, ours is a great trading nation with markets all over the world. The time has come to develop our neglected trading links with the new global powerhouses such as China and India.

The creation of the EU is explained by the perfectly understandable desire to avoid further conflict on a continent that had been the scene of two world wars.

But Britain is a land apart: a precious stone set in the silver sea, as Shakespeare so evocatively put it; a realm with a glorious island story stretching back a thousand years, with links to every continent and a language taken up throughout the world.

Our political class bought into the European experiment after losing confidence in our nation and accepting the inevitability of decline. They viewed Europe as a life raft and clambered on board. The British people never took that view.

Now it is Europe that is in decline and Britain that is being held back. It is time to break free.

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Oh jesus christ, yawn.

So. If I find a single Labour MP who is homophobic, will you disown them, too?

I said that UKIP are not as intrinsically bad as the BNP, but they can be judged by the "friends" they keep in the EU parliament (guilt by association) and the same goes for the more accepted Tories, but I'll never vote for them either.

This is just pathetic. Is this really the full extent of what you don't like about them? Can't you come up with something with a little more bite?

You said it yourself how amateurish and rather stupid a lot of UKIP members are in relation to the more articulate and biting Nigel Farage, who seems to be the best (which tells enough), with one MEP acting like a 14 year boy by making references to the fecking Nazis in front of German MEPs.

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We've got a fair few Gurkhas working as security men around the Bristol's various shopping areas - in one of Bristol's rougher suburbs, Kingswood, a Gurkha security officer working at Kingwood's rain worn slab of a shopping gallery has gotten racially abused by the high concentration of chavs there.

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UKIP will implode long before they become a serious party because senior members won't be able to resist calling northerners clog wearers, the French frogs and people of colour whatever 1970s soubriquet they dream up. In fact their mindset is stuck firmly in that decade, fighting old battles, obsessed by political correctness and generally existing in a hypertensive bubble of Daily Mail bile. A tape recorder left anywhere in the vicinity would stop the whole show.

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UKIP will implode long before they become a serious party because senior members won't be able to resist calling northerners clog wearers, the French frogs and people of colour whatever 1970s soubriquet they dream up. In fact their mindset is stuck firmly in that decade, fighting old battles, obsessed by political correctness and generally existing in a hypertensive bubble of Daily Mail bile. A tape recorder left anywhere in the vicinity would stop the whole show.

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Theyre our second biggest party in the european parliament, bigger than liebour. I wish the EU wasnt a 'serious' parliament, but unfortunately it is.

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The way the gurkhas have been treated for instance, is beyond belief.

It is absolutely disgusting.

If you carry a gun for Britain, then you should be treated as British even though you prefer to retain your own nationality.

We were grateful enough for these folk when the chips were down. Now its our turn to say 'thank you'

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