Game_Over Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Link is below http://www.frankfield.com/blog/q/date/2009...e-labour-party/ Thoughts of one of the very few Labour MP's who can hold his head up high after 12 wasted years. Many of the feedback comments are also very interesting. This is the man who was asked by Tony Blair to think the unthinkable on welfare reform, but whose honest opinion was then ignored in favour of plan B - let the city rip and p*ss the proceeds up the wall. Thanks alot Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Link is belowhttp://www.frankfield.com/blog/q/date/2009...e-labour-party/ Thoughts of one of the very few Labour MP's who can hold his head up high after 12 wasted years. Many of the feedback comments are also very interesting. This is the man who was asked by Tony Blair to think the unthinkable on welfare reform, but whose honest opinion was then ignored in favour of plan B - let the city rip and p*ss the proceeds up the wall. Thanks alot Gordon. Frank, just getting the memo that the point of pilitics is to steal loads of money before buggering off into the sunset. He's been making those fat gawpy thieves look good by hanging out with them and can't work out why they haven't been rumbled sooner. Jesus H Tapdancing Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Over Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Frank, just getting the memo that the point of pilitics is to steal loads of money before buggering off into the sunset. He's been making those fat gawpy thieves look good by hanging out with them and can't work out why they haven't been rumbled sooner. Jesus H Tapdancing Christ. I just like the guy because he seems to have some integrity - I feel sorry for people like him really because over the last 12 years they have seen everything they ever believed in turned to sh*te by Tony and Gordon. We know that Socialism wont ever work, but what do people like Frank do now? Don't suppose I should care really, perhaps I am going 'soft' in my old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 pasted for posterity.... Darkness at the Heart of the Labour Party Harold Wilson asserted that the Labour party was a moral crusade or it was nothing. The McBride affair has left Labour members looking at nothing. That is the reality check that McBride has wrought on the party. The whole of the government's energy should be spent on governing now and building a programme from which, within and year, we will be seeking permission to rule for another five years. Far from helping sketch out a new roadmap, the McBride activities shine a searchlight on the paucity of the government's programme. Week after week MPs have been turning up but with almost no serious work to do. There is the odd bill to be sure. But there is no legislative programme to speak of. Even the debates that are put on to fill in time are ones that deny MPs a vote. The whole exercise is vacuous. Labour MPs are left staring into the abyss - that nothingness of Harold Wilson's statement. There is a wish amongst all sections of the PLP for the government to start governing. We wouldn't care too much whether the ideas were Blairite or non-Blairite, as long as we could give the impression of supporting a government that was using the next year to mark out why we should stay in office. We have lived through an age of record public expenditure provision, but are now entering one of increasing cuts. There have been some beneficial results from this huge tax-payer largesse, but they in no way match up to what radicals predicted would be the outcome. Have we been on the wrong track, and if so, what should now be our approach? Or is the task to look much more carefully how each pound of tax-payers' money is spent so we get a much bigger bang for our buck? Instead of this debate, we see the energy at the heart of Number 10 going into trying to smear the opposition. It is this contrast between how we should be behaving, and what has been exposed, that is the real killer. A necessary government information machine has been corrupted by a spin that seeks not to inform but control and, if needs be destroy. And it has been in existence for over a decade. McBride sat on the Prime Minister's political War Cabinet. If this is the war the Prime Minister thinks the country wants he is in for a very rude awakening. In the meantime, Labour supporters are left bewildered and wondering what happened to the moral crusading side of our mission. Poor old Labour party. The Labour Party really shouldn't have fallen for Blair's dream, his legacy is probably going to be the complete destruction of the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 theres darkness all over the UK caused by the productive being taxed to oblivion and the bankers and brown bankrupting britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Over Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 pasted for posterity....The Labour Party really shouldn't have fallen for Blair's dream, his legacy is probably going to be the complete destruction of the party. You have to feel sorry for the guy though don't you? As I said I must be going soft in my old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy1967 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Link is belowhttp://www.frankfield.com/blog/q/date/2009...e-labour-party/ Thoughts of one of the very few Labour MP's who can hold his head up high after 12 wasted years. Many of the feedback comments are also very interesting. This is the man who was asked by Tony Blair to think the unthinkable on welfare reform, but whose honest opinion was then ignored in favour of plan B - let the city rip and p*ss the proceeds up the wall. Thanks alot Gordon. I remember him the other week on Panorama talking about pension reform, when he explained the Tony Blair the truth and nothing put the truth, Tony Replied to Frank - well Gordon never explained it like that. Just goes to show, Blair was just a poster boy for new labour why are house price crash forum members not running for parliment, we could do better than both showers of piss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You have to feel sorry for the guy though don't you?As I said I must be going soft in my old age. Yeah you have a point. Such a shame that soft hearts like Franks fall prey to glib salesmen like Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 pasted for posterity....The Labour Party really shouldn't have fallen for Blair's dream, his legacy is probably going to be the complete destruction of the party. The Labour Party had a great opportunity. They could have moved the country towards an unselfish form of Capitalism like countries like Denmark. In fact I think that's what they promised people they would do with the 3rd way. But they didnt they followed the USA in a more selfish form of Capitalism, and here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Is Brown the colour of Darkness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I just like the guy because he seems to have some integrity - I feel sorry for people like him really because over the last 12 years they have seen everything they ever believed in turned to sh*te by Tony and Gordon.We know that Socialism wont ever work, but what do people like Frank do now? Don't suppose I should care really, perhaps I am going 'soft' in my old age. Always worth checking the voting record... Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches Has never voted on laws to stop climate change. votes, speeches Not impressed with that lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.C. Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 why are house price crash forum members not running for parliment, we could do better than both showers of piss! At least we have a decent argument on most topics, the deflationist, BNP loving, global warming deniers will have to be the opposition though We can put Sibbers in a tent outside next Brian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Frank Field is sponsoring a bill making it a criminal offence for anyone other than a "market maker" to short sell shares of UK listed companies: A Bill to prohibit short selling; to require disclosure by pension funds and their trustees of records of loans of their shares for the purpose of short selling, and of the fees received in such cases; to require banks and building societies to offer their retail customers current and savings accounts free of any charge for holding the accounts when such accounts are in credit; and for connected purposes. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c.../09079.i-i.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Over Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Always worth checking the voting record... Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches Has never voted on laws to stop climate change. votes, speeches Not impressed with that lot... Well I'm impressed he hasn't been conned by the MMGW brigade OOps............... That's another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Always worth checking the voting record... Voted strongly for a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches Voted moderately against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing ID cards. votes, speeches Voted moderately for introducing foundation hospitals. votes, speeches Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees. votes, speeches Voted moderately for Labour's anti-terrorism laws. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for replacing Trident. votes, speeches Voted very strongly for the hunting ban. votes, speeches Voted moderately for equal gay rights. votes, speeches Has never voted on laws to stop climate change. votes, speeches Not impressed with that lot... Field always struck me as a decent man, but this voting record is disappointing. Especially wrt ID cards and the Iraq war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Stromba Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Rule for another five years? Surely he means SERVE for another five years. They are all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1929crash Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The Labour Party had a great opportunity. They could have moved the country towards an unselfish form of Capitalismlike countries like Denmark. In fact I think that's what they promised people they would do with the 3rd way. But they didnt they followed the USA in a more selfish form of Capitalism, and here we are. I agree. I find it amusing that people are condemning Brown because of socialism. Whatever we have had since 1997, it wasn't socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Link is belowhttp://www.frankfield.com/blog/q/date/2009...e-labour-party/ erm,no shit frank!!! you've only just figured?? this isn't just darkness,this is the same agenda that uncle adolf was trying to adopt,let in by the back door,and has recently had a course of steroids!!! we ain't feckin blind.Creating mayhem and then coming across all high and mighty with the new improved(state micromanaged for your own good) solution just doesn't wash. same people behind it,just a bit of rear-entry to see if theres any response(and a little too clumsy).Not prudent to get carried away now. rumbled guys....you are toast. ps does kate garraways other half still have labour party subscription? ...that would seem to be a little on the impartial side now,wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Rule for another five years?Surely he means SERVE for another five years. They are all the same. Well spotted! A Freudian slip if ever there was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree. I find it amusing that people are condemning Brown because of socialism. Whatever we have had since 1997, it wasn't socialism. Call me cynical, but few of those trumpeting their allegiance to Socialism and storming into power as a result, were EVER socialists. They just thought it sounded noble and was a vote-winner. Socialism - like Communism - doesn't work unless them wot 'sell' it, practice what they preach. I haven't seen socialism in action in any of the NuLab. self-serving measures. Quelle surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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