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It's a war alright, it's a war of ignorance. Most BTLrs don't have a clue their actions are directly preventing others from getting an affordable house- they just think it's the norm for house prices to go up silly amounts out of self delusion or sheer stupidity. But remember it's not just here this is happening, in some countries and certain cities of countries prices have been pushed to stupid levels by foreign investors completely outpricing the locals (Thailand is a good example). The way I see it is that certain vested interests do everything they can to make sure the market (supply/demand) favours them. Then the banks are obviously the biggest culprits with their cheap credit and pass the parcel style risky debt offloading.

If you were thinking Dear Husband, then I hate to break the news

I have decided that these sorts of people are beyond help and should therefore be encouraged with sarcy posts like this beauty: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showth...=1#post11110303 Some variation on the theme: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=928935

Come on, see through it! Her kids are just an excuse do you really think on the off chance she bagged a lot of equity she wouldn't have kept some of it for herself or wouldn't have leased out spare rooms?

Points if you can spot my devestatingly mean post

That wouldn't be enough for a 1 bedroom apartment in Swindon! Cheapest I found was £650/ month there. It makes sense that the government will flood the system with benefits and pay for it with central bank credit rather than put up taxes. It's all part of the master plan to hyperinflate sterling

cells is easily one of the top 10 posters on HPC so you should be ashamed to throw personal insults at him. He's always explaining the issues with green belt land for example and many people ignore him but he takes pains and efforts to explain it in more than a few threads since I first started reading the forums. This is a great thread to as it's exposing the sham of the benefits sytem even more to proove once and for all that it is a way of keeping the poorest of our society happy so they dont revolt

Why would a duo-monopoly government let themselves go bankrupt? It's a classic case of our first steps to sterling hyperinflation (but a stagflationary hyperinflation) which I predicted many months ago. Infact I think I predicted the stagflationary hyperinflation before anyone else so I get creditz I better wait till it happens though as my opinion is still in the extremist camp even for the HPC forums. But then every week that goes by the mainstream opinion on HPC gets more and more extreme which is fun. Maybe in a years time we can stage a revolt

By contrast these days the only hitting going on is when students get bullied by other students and the teachers do nothing about it- they are too scared to punish anyone without factual evidence but it's not like it can all be caught on video easily. I would know since I was bullied all through secondary school (I'm 21 this year), I remember going to form teachers and head teachers on multiple occasions through those years only to be told they would sort it out and then nothing gets done (a bit like politics) and the only time you see anything about bullying is when they pretend to have a policy on it. If you take into account that my school was one of the better ones in terms of academic performance and area (countryside in the South West), I shudder to think what northern city school bullying is like. I remember in year 11 this guy was insulting me for weeks and I got so angry one day that despite being a big non-violent pussy (which I regret at times) I ended up punching him in the face and giving him a black eye- In response to this I was sent to the head master and told off! And he had the cheek to say to me that I should not complain about people bullying me if I'm also hitting people :angry: But that boy didn't bully me again.. Basically the morale of the story is, if your child is being bullied now- tell them to fight back because a) It's the only way to stop the bullies and Teachers only pretend to care and don't actually do anything unless it's an extreme case. I think 20 years ago teachers felt they had a responsibility to the students and the parents to ensure discipline- now it's all posturing and pretence. I imagine it's even worse these days than when I was at school It makes me so angry that people can talk for hours on the news about what can possibly be done to discipline teenagers and not once have they mentioned school as a place to re-introduce discipline as we all know the good for nothing parents of bad teenagers couldn't care less what their child does.

Post Of The Year. You summed up my opinion better than I could. I've been saying various points from this post on this forum for months but no one listens, but it's nice to see someone sum all the points up so well. You should mention that the £50b the BoE throws at the banks will be the main cause of the inflation by devaluing the currency through artifically increased money supply. Also I would guess the figure will be a lot higher than £50b if they want to keep this up and eventually hyperinflate the currency before offering our 'saviour' as the Euro!

A small glimpse into how much money is really out there outside your average wage packet I am not at all surprised by this, these days people are deluded into thinking money is worth so much simply because they get paid poorly and don't realise how little value many rich and super rich people would place on £10k or so. Hell a clever drug dealer wouldn't care much about £10k considering how much he would be earning. The very fact something like this makes news is testamount to the income inequality as the majority of people react in shock to something which is akin to dropping a 10p coin on the ground for many.

The reason the rich like living in the UK is because it's a tax haven for them. They simply claim non-dom status and they don't have to pay tax like the rest of us but rather a yearly fee or something which is an insignficant proportion of their income.

Some good posts in this thread by InternationalRockSuperstar and fudge, hopefully if the fallout of the economic crisis is bad enough we could uprise against our corrupt dictators as people will want blood

cells there is no point in trying to explain to them. If people understood the cause and effect of these planning permissions the government wouldn't have gotten away with it in the first place. If even people on this forum don't get it, then there is no hope for this country.

They tried, there has been huge opposition to joining the Euro. Also it stands to reason that they might be keeping sterling just long enough to hyperinflate it on the back of their dirty credit schemes then using the Euro as the 'saviour'. What amazes me is that people still can't get their head around the most obvious corrupt policies like as cell's mentions the green belt. Why is it that because we elect our monopoly clone governments we magically trust them not to have ulterior motives?

Thats the most relevant part, as you can see Boris Johnson's housing policies and also by and large the Conservative's housing policies are just clones of Labour's. That's why it was ironic when Red Ken complained about Johnson's housing policies copying his. There is a lot more to high house prices than just what you pay for and that is why all the parties want to keep them artificially high. I was a supporter of the Tories until I realised they are just a Labour clone, the fact is our government is and will always be run by elitist interests. Shared ownership is a very cunning plan, it stops people from owning their own home even if they pay off their share yet at the same time would prevent a house price crash, keep the debt bubble going and ultimately line the pockets of the private share owners in central banks. If hyperinflation is being engineered then shared ownership would help increase the money supply because the Bank Of England through the government will fund this shared ownership scheme. So the central bank stands to gain the most as the commercial banks are in debt to them and the government is going to be in a lot more debt to them if it goes through with this scheme. On top of that it fuels the elitist aim of moving towards world government and a world currency. When sterling hyperinflates the Euro will be seen as our saviour. The only spanner in the works for the West is China. And how far would these people go to reach their aim of a world government, war with China?

Some of the people in this thread are jokers. How can any of you seriously believe the recession/depression will only last 2 years after an unprecedented 10 year boom in house prices and cheap credit? It's going to be a prolonged depression lasting a decade if not longer. Our whole economy will be uncovered as a fraud and unemployment will sky rocket as people start consuming less and our consumer economy relies on the consumption so the less consumption will mean huge job losses for many B2C and B2B businesses. It's going to be so bad that I won't even want to be in this country when the full extent of it hits which will be in 10-12 months time, you've been warned. I'll be out of here by the end of the year.

Conservative landslide, no surprise there. Evidence if you needed any that the only thing keeping Labour in power was raising house prices and the poor people's vote. But the Tories aren't going to do any better, 2 sides of the same coin.

This is great news, I'm surprised there aren't more people cheering to this as we all hate these scum.

WTF someone isn't drinking silly amounts of alcohol

Cue Eric Pebble

Whose up for a petrol riot?

Well thats what it all revolves around, if there was a land tax and there wasn't booms and busts the super rich wouldn't have such an unfair advantage. If we abolished income tax and just had a land tax instead then income equality would be much better. So all we need to do is overthrow the central banks that cause the booms and busts and overthrow the governments with their unfair income tax system. I'll put the kettle on.

Yes you pay almost double or over double depending on your interest rate with most mortgages. Thats why it always makes me laugh when people say renting is dead money, so is mortgage interest!

There will be an 80% average fall if you include both price and currency devaluation. This is 100% correct gauranteed But in order to realise the 80% fall you must either be earning your salary in a country like China or be investing significantly in gold, silver or the Chinese Remnibi. Gold and silver being the better bets over the short term (1-10 years) and the RMB being a good long term bet. 80% is the average so for some apartments it could be 90%