rantnrave Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 From Letting Agent Today: Lettings boom could trigger fall in national birth rate Family life is under threat because so many people are having to live in the private rented sector – where there is an inadequate supply of stock suitable for families. As a result, younger people are putting off having children and forming households, because they can neither afford to buy their own homes nor find anywhere suitable to rent. Yolande Barnes, director of residential research at Savills, told the Council of Mortgage Lenders conference, Future Housing, yesterday that a falling birth rate could be one of the consequences. She said properties in the private rented sector were geared towards providing apartments for single and childless people and she warned of “serious social implications”. She said: “There comes a point when households stop forming, when there isn’t a property to move in to. We face a real danger in this country of a falling birth rate.” She said there was scope for investors to expand into family accommodation. Nothing new to regulars here, but good to see this point gaining wider attention. After Japan's bubble burst, the country now has one of the lowest birth rates in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 From Letting Agent Today: Lettings boom could trigger fall in national birth rate Nothing new to regulars here, but good to see this point gaining wider attention. After Japan's bubble burst, the country now has one of the lowest birth rates in the world. I wonder if Japan has a version of SMI, that allows pensioners to stay in homes that they cant afford, shutting out younger people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustyDog Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 From Letting Agent Today: Lettings boom could trigger fall in national birth rate Nothing new to regulars here, but good to see this point gaining wider attention. After Japan's bubble burst, the country now has one of the lowest birth rates in the world. Not a problem at all. Just increase immigration to compensate. And as a bonus, all those immigrants will be prepared to do all those menial jobs that the indigenous population feel is beneath them. Oh, and they would probably also be prepared to drive tube trains for minimum wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Not a problem at all. Just increase immigration to compensate. And as a bonus, all those immigrants will be prepared to do all those menial jobs that the indigenous population feel is beneath them. Oh, and they would probably also be prepared to drive tube trains for minimum wage. Is minimum wage £50K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackgoose Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Nothing new to regulars here, but good to see this point gaining wider attention. After Japan's bubble burst, the country now has one of the lowest birth rates in the world. On the contrary, the UK birth rate has been rising as shown here, which gives it as 1.82, 1.92 or 2.00 chilrdren per woman depending upon the source. The lowest countries have birth rates of 1.2. However, many people on here would be aware that this is due to a subset of the population having many children - benefits recipients and recent immigrants being the fertile. It is university educated/ professional women who are having less and less children as these are having to work too hard to provide shelter for themselves (alongside paying taxes to support said benefit recipients and pensioners). It would be good to see some statistics to back that up though. Edited October 6, 2011 by blackgoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozza Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) From Letting Agent Today: Lettings boom could trigger fall in national birth rate Nothing new to regulars here, but good to see this point gaining wider attention. After Japan's bubble burst, the country now has one of the lowest birth rates in the world. Watch this trailer for the shape of things to come (3 mins): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU Edit - found better version Edited October 6, 2011 by Cozza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Yolanda Barnes is an intellectual nobody with a human geography degree she is a corporate climber in the great property ponzi b*llocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porca misèria Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 From Letting Agent Today: What's the date on it? Some time in the late 1960s when post-war progress upwards from devastation was running out of steam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righttoleech Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 On the contrary, the UK birth rate has been rising as shown here, which gives it as 1.82, 1.92 or 2.00 chilrdren per woman depending upon the source. The lowest countries have birth rates of 1.2. However, many people on here would be aware that this is due to a subset of the population having many children - benefits recipients and recent immigrants being the fertile. It is university educated/ professional women who are having less and less children as these are having to work too hard to provide shelter for themselves (alongside paying taxes to support said benefit recipients and pensioners). It would be good to see some statistics to back that up though. well put blackgoose...........if this does not smack of a ponzi scheme what does?......in this case the greater fools are not those breeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 What's the date on it? Some time in the late 1960s when post-war progress upwards from devastation was running out of steam? Today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Today clearly, all these renters are unable to get on with their lives as they rent. nothing to do with 6 times joint salary mortgages and the wife terrified to drop one out as she wont be able to pay the mortgage then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglybear Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) clearly, all these renters are unable to get on with their lives as they rent. nothing to do with 6 times joint salary mortgages and the wife terrified to drop one out as she wont be able to pay the mortgage then? Whether rent or mortgage payments, unless one parent earns a good salary (or both), housing costs difficult to afford a sprog. A child means larger outgoings and a drop in income from one partner working less or not at all and/or child care costs. Unless a family member will look after the child for nothing, but that depends on the family member not having to work to keep himself/herself, being in good enough health to mind the child for however many hours a day, not having someone else such as a old, ill or disabled family member to look after (and not wanting a life of his/her own) and on you living near the family member (i.e. not having moved away with / to get a job). Edit: missing word Edited October 6, 2011 by Snugglybear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 clearly, all these renters are unable to get on with their lives as they rent. nothing to do with 6 times joint salary mortgages and the wife terrified to drop one out as she wont be able to pay the mortgage then? Its both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starla Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I wonder if Japan has a version of SMI, that allows pensioners to stay in homes that they cant afford, shutting out younger people? I also wonder if Japan has a Benefits Tourist system that allows people from home and abroad to easily afford children by milking benefits. I fear it's those from non-Chav families that can't afford to breed, so we're going to have a very imbalanced society. We're pretty much there already. I feel I'm qualified to comment as a working Londoner who wrote off being able to afford kids quite some time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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