R4 Graduate Unemployment & Public Sector

[singlemalt]

On the way to work heard a piece on the radio about level of graduate unemployment and how this would be exacerbated by the cuts in the public sector as this is traditionally where most graduates get their first job.

Could this be true? If so imo this isn't an ideal situation. It can only give them a skewed view of how work really is and create the next gen of deadwood. I've briefly contracted to the public sector and the waste there was obscene. The "mañana mañana" work ethic was also unbelievable.

Sorry if that sounds like just another attack on the public sector but that was my experience.

[Si1]

On the way to work heard a piece on the radio about level of graduate unemployment and how this would be exacerbated by the cuts in the public sector as this is traditionally where most graduates get their first job.

I recall seeing a stat over the previous 3 years or sao saying something like 60% (or far more) grads went to public sector roles, shouldn't be surprised. This is a huge turnaround from the 1990s

[SarahBell]

They said on the radio that it was mostly IT graduates....

Which won't be helped if india really can send us millions of it workers...

[PopGun]

On the way to work heard a piece on the radio about level of graduate unemployment and how this would be exacerbated by the cuts in the public sector as this is traditionally where most graduates get their first job.

Could this be true? If so imo this isn't an ideal situation. It can only give them a skewed view of how work really is and create the next gen of deadwood. I've briefly contracted to the public sector and the waste there was obscene. The "mañana mañana" work ethic was also unbelievable.

Sorry if that sounds like just another attack on the public sector but that was my experience.

The lack of graduate opportunity in the public sector will impact massively on the Private sector in years to come.

Many graduates like public sector entry jobs due to the training and development opportunites on offer, to build their skills/knowledge up before moving on to the private sector.

Basically the private sector has benefitted from staff trained up by the state. Now this subsidy/tap is about to be switched off, it's looking like all of the development burden will be passed on to the private sector.

But you guys are fine with this though, right?

[Injin]

The lack of graduate opportunity in the public sector will impact massively on the Private sector in years to come.

Many graduates like public sector entry jobs due to the training and development opportunites on offer, to build their skills/knowledge up before moving on to the private sector.

Basically the private sector has benefitted from staff trained up by the state. Now this subsidy/tap is about to be switched off, it's looking like all of the development burden will be passed on to the private sector.

But you guys are fine with this though, right?

Private sector already pays for everything.

[PopGun]

Private sector already pays for everything.

Well they're going to have to fork out even more now.

Anyway, i thought you were against businesses refusing to train up staff to their specifications and expecting the state to provide off the shelf solutions?

[Self Employed Youth]

Encouraged into uni to stay of the dole, the people end up on the dole when they finish.

Probably more cost effective to go on the dole straight away. We have a highly educated unemployed work force.

The problem is, some of them can actually add up. While many in work cannot.

My A levels are worth more than my (specialised) degree, 3 years wasted and a hell of a lot of debt gained.

[Injin]

Well they're going to have to fork out even more now.

Anyway, i thought you were against businesses refusing to train up staff to their specifications and expecting the state to provide off the shelf solutions?

I am.

For some reason you think the state sector will still be there and the private sector will be having to work in addition to that. It's the way it's been for decades I know, but you must understand that those days are over.

You should realise that when you are reading on a public forum how the financial fraudster system works it's day is done.

[PopGun]

I am.

For some reason you think the state sector will still be there and the private sector will be having to work in addition to that. It's the way it's been for decades I know, but you must understand that those days are over.

You should realise that when you are reading on a public forum how the financial fraudster system works it's day is done.

oh I know it's over, but i'm not as convinced that a free/fair market will take over and save the day. Hope I'm wrong of course, although I'm also hoping for more than mud and worms when i kick the bucket.

Edited November 1, 2010 by PopGun

[Injin]

oh I know it's over, but i'm not as convinced that a free/fair market will take over and save the day. Hope I'm wrong of course.

Nah, it'll be free more by default than design. Reminds me of that scene in the hobbit where the trolls are arguing over who to eat first but sunrise comes and nukes them before they can resolve matters.

[PopGun]

Nah, it'll be free more by default than design. Reminds me of that scene in the hobbit where the trolls are arguing over who to eat first but sunrise comes and nukes them before they can resolve matters.

[tahoma]

Many graduates like public sector entry jobs due to the training and development opportunites on offer, to build their skills/knowledge up before moving on to the private sector.

Ahh, that explains why so many private sector companies I come across like having meetings for the sake of meetings, in which nothing is actually actioned apart from perhaps setting a schedule for a follow-up meeting, in which the sheer lack of progress in solving the issues discussed in the initial meeting never seems to be on the agenda.

One of my first post grad job interviews was for a position in the statistics dept of the local council. I got a job in the private sector instead. I still shiver to think I could have been one of the 'undead' to this day.

[Riedquat]

Nah, it'll be free more by default than design. Reminds me of that scene in the hobbit where the trolls are arguing over who to eat first but sunrise comes and nukes them before they can resolve matters.

Lead on by someone else, don't forget.

[PopGun]

Ahh, that explains why so many private sector companies I come across like having meetings for the sake of meetings, in which nothing is actually actioned apart from perhaps setting a schedule for a follow-up meeting, in which the sheer lack of progress in solving the issues discussed in the initial meeting never seems to be on the agenda.

I do confess having to suffer the doom of pointless meetings. However twas nearly as bad when I worked in the private sector. You're obviously not a Dilbert fan.

One of my first post grad job interviews was for a position in the statistics dept of the local council. I got a job in the private sector instead. I still shiver to think I could have been one of the 'undead' to this day.

Then think yourself lucky that you had the opportunity. I'd love to work in an equivalent job in the private sector, however opportunity at the moment = zero. I could get on my bike/bus/hover board whatever, but there's the small matter of a spouse to consider.

Oh well, back to my paperclip arranging....