Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Many thousands of tenants are putting up with dilapidated housing because they fear being evicted if they complain, a charity has said. Citizens Advice said some landlords are routinely evicting tenants for simply complaining about poor conditions. "Retaliatory eviction" as it is known is legal as landlords do not have to give reason for wanting a tenant out. The charity called for landlords to be stopped from evicting tenants who have asked them to make home improvements. Eviction fear looms over tenants Quote
Smell the Fear Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Eviction fear looms over tenants Security of tenure is at the root of our housing problems IMO. The AST will prove disastrous in the end. Quote
Guest Bart of Darkness Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Oh for the good old days of proper social housing. Quote
Guest casaloco Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I don't get it... just refuse to leave, and let the buggers spend 12 months without rent going though the courts getting an eviction notice. www.squatnow.com coming soon. Quote
Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Security of tenure is at the root of our housing problems IMO. The AST will prove disastrous in the end. Yes, dear old Margaret Thatcher`s baby, if you are not one of the HO fraternity you aren`t worth protecting. Quote
iluminati Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I don't get it... just refuse to leave, and let the buggers spend 12 months without rent going though the courts getting an eviction notice.www.squatnow.com coming soon. Van Hoogstraten was a man ahead of his time. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,...,761568,00.html Quote
jay67 Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I don't get it... just refuse to leave, and let the buggers spend 12 months without rent going though the courts getting an eviction notice. www.squatnow.com coming soon. The old Advisory Service for Squatters is still going! They're at.. http://www.squatter.org.uk/ Quote
bomberbrown Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Yes, dear old Margaret Thatcher`s baby, if you are not one of the HO fraternity you aren`t worth protecting. Thats one of the very few policies of Thatcher's Britain that I have real issues with. AST rules/law need a complete overhaul, if not scrapped altogether. The rights have gone too far in favour of the landlord. Quote
wotnocrash Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Eviction fear looms over tenants I don't get this... why don't they just move? no-one is forcing them to stay in dilapidated accomodation, especially if, as according to many on this website, there are tens of thousands of desperate BTL investers with brand new flats and houses just waiting empty for them? Aside from that, it does explain why people are willing to pay a premium for owning their own home. The monthly payments might be more, but if something is broken or wearign out or you just fancy a change, you can just go out and change it! No pleading with the landlord, scared that it might tell you move out Quote
Guest AuntJess Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Thats one of the very few policies of Thatcher's Britain that I have real issues with. AST rules/law need a complete overhaul, if not scrapped altogether. The rights have gone too far in favour of the landlord. I have been of that opinion for some time. It seems that the law favours property over people and businessmen over customers/clients/...marks? . It is the 'anti-personnel' slant to the laws of this land, which makes me very cynical about the agenda of most governments. Quote
jimmyjazz Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I don't get it... just refuse to leave, and let the buggers spend 12 months without rent going though the courts getting an eviction notice.www.squatnow.com coming soon. stop saying that please. it takes 2 months to get an eviction order from a court. Quote
jimmyjazz Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 stop saying that please.it takes 2 months to get an eviction order from a court. follow up point. Can a landlord go to a court to get an eviction order without notifying the tenant ? I mean is it possible for the Landlord to hand you a notice saying you are to leave in 2 days time because he has already been through the courts and got the eviction notice ? Quote
Badger Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 The monthly payments might be more, but if something is broken or wearign out or you just fancy a change, you can just go out and change it! That's the whole point, can you afford to after the monthly payments.. Cheaper rent and free repairs sounds good to me. Quote
me me me Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I don't get this... why don't they just move? no-one is forcing them to stay in dilapidated accomodation, especially if, as according to many on this website, there are tens of thousands of desperate BTL investers with brand new flats and houses just waiting empty for them?Aside from that, it does explain why people are willing to pay a premium for owning their own home. The monthly payments might be more, but if something is broken or wearign out or you just fancy a change, you can just go out and change it! No pleading with the landlord, scared that it might tell you move out Very apt I had my landlord put in a cell. What a complete **** he was! Ultimate joy I tell ye. Quote
Guest Skint Academic Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I don't get this... why don't they just move? no-one is forcing them to stay in dilapidated accomodation, especially if, as according to many on this website, there are tens of thousands of desperate BTL investers with brand new flats and houses just waiting empty for them? It costs money to move. You rarely get your deposit back. That may change with the new deposit scheme but you still need to find another deposit before getting your old one back. And then there's all the agency fees, removal van and the hassle of packing and unpacking, paying bills etc. One of the main reasons my partner and I are so poor is because we kept having to move due to greedy landlords. But we refuse to be bullied. I still have to sue them both. Quote
Orbital Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I don't get it... just refuse to leave, and let the buggers spend 12 months without rent going though the courts getting an eviction notice. Because with that on your record you might find your options a little limited when trying to move on, but maybe some people have the ambition of moving from one ship hole to another. Good luck with that! Quote
jimmyjazz Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Very aptI had my landlord put in a cell. What a complete **** he was! Ultimate joy I tell ye. good for you, you let him see what poor accommodation is all about . can i ask what he did ? Quote
me me me Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 At first I thought I had been robbed! I went on holiday for 2 and a half weeks, but for some reason he thought I had done a runner but left all my stuff???? He took my golf clubs, tv, clothes etc????????????????!!!!! Paranoid freak Quick call to the Police and 3 hours later @ 2am, JAIL. Next day, goods back, notice handed in. I would seriously not bat an eyelid if I ran over him. Pure scum me 1 ll 0 Quote
southsea13 Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Because with that on your record you might find your options a little limited when trying to move on, but maybe some people have the ambition of moving from one ship hole to another. Good luck with that! If anyone gets stuck for references I am more than happy to offer one: I have a PO BOX and a registered company. I can pose as a landlord for anyone in difficulties. All free of charge - 100% altruistic Quote
southsea13 Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 stop saying that please.it takes 2 months to get an eviction order from a court. Only if you`re in the wrong (i.e non-payment of rent). If you are facing homelessness the courts will generally NOT turf you out. Quote
It is different this time Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 One of the main reasons my partner and I are so poor is because we kept having to move due to greedy landlords. But we refuse to be bullied. I still have to sue them both. Why don't you sign the initial contract for 12 months or even for 2 years, providing you want to stay there? He can then get lost, you know for the next 12 or 24 months where you are what you are doing. Never rent from an amateur who insists on 6 months contract. Don't ever let them bully you and always remember that you are the customer either they'll have to offer you the security you need or you can take your custom elsewhere. Quote
kunekune Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 It isn't as easy to 'just move out' as some people think. There may be lots of 2 bed flats around: but (a) what if you have children and the flats aren't suitable or ( they aren't in the right location for schools or © you are on benefit ... not many BTL landlords will take you on then, regardless of whether you are a good payer. To be able to make the most of the 'flexibility' of renting you need to be a very marketable tenant with the flexibility to live anywhere. Quote
Guest Charlie The Tramp Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Only if you`re in the wrong (i.e non-payment of rent). If you are facing homelessness the courts will generally NOT turf you out. Q1 2007 Landlords issued 35,979 claims for possession and the Courts issued 25,050 orders. Quote
southsea13 Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Q1 2007Landlords issued 35,979 claims for possession and the Courts issued 25,050 orders. So that shows that not ALL claims are granted. Without knowing the ins and outs of each case, it`s hard to get a better handle on the stats Quote
wotnocrash Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 It isn't as easy to 'just move out' as some people think. There may be lots of 2 bed flats around: but (a) what if you have children and the flats aren't suitable or ( they aren't in the right location for schools or © you are on benefit ... not many BTL landlords will take you on then, regardless of whether you are a good payer. To be able to make the most of the 'flexibility' of renting you need to be a very marketable tenant with the flexibility to live anywhere. How come we never hear these arguements on the threads saying what a renters paradise it is, with endless choice, falling rents and landlords desperate for any tenant willing to pay a contribution towards the mortgage, no matter how little (there are plenty of threads like this on this website) Quote
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