Orsino Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It is grossly unfair to equate Chamberlain with Brown. Chamberlain mishandled a crisis that was not of his making. Brown is mishandling one that he created himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm78 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Appeasement and war aside he was quite a successful prime minister with a radical agenda, introducing the Factory's Act and a new Housing Act (slum clearance). He also gets a bad wrap for this imo. Appeasement AT THE TIME was not looked at with the same disdain as we do today. People were terrified of another war and appeasement brought the UK some precious months to build up arms/troops. Without this build up the war could have been very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcneilee Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Soon to be more unpopular than hitler. But then hitler did do less damage to the u.k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbledon88 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Brown is much worse than Chamberlain. Yes, Chamberlain was hoodwinked by Hitler in 1938, but Chamberlain spent the whole of the next year rearming Britain. I think Baldwin was the prime culprit in appeasement anyway. Churchill was a rubbish chancellor and gassed the Iraqis. In a rational world, Brown would never have advanced past the post of bank manager in some provincial Scottish town circa 1958. His book on "heroes" was the sort of thing an eleven-year-old would have written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 She took their milk away. ...Which according to research was fostering catarrhal conditons and URIs. Orange juice was found to be a MUCH better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AuntJess Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It is grossly unfair to equate Chamberlain with Brown. Chamberlain mishandled a crisis that was not of his making. Brown is mishandling one that he created himself. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eight Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Maybe he will have made enough money from dodgy bank backhanders, that when he finally leaves, he might go and buy a football club- Closer to the truth than you might have thought. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raith_Rovers The End of the Fairytale After the club were relegated from the Premier Division, they also struggled to succeed in the 1st Division. For the 2002/2003 season they were relegated to the 2nd Division for the first time since 1987. The club returned to the 1st Division (with the lowest winning total, to date, for champions of 59 points), under the leadership of Antonio Calderon in 2003/2004 season. At the start of the 2004/05 season, Claude Anelka (brother of French Striker Nicolas) offered £300,000 to any team who would offer him a manager's job and was subsequently appointed the manager of Raith Rovers, with Antonio Calderon refusing the offer of a coaching role and leaving the club. Anelka signed a team of (mostly) continental players from the lower leagues in France. A disastrous season followed, despite Anelka resigning halfway through the season (replaced by Gordon Dalziel) and his signings either leaving, or having their contracts terminated, Raith were relegated to the Scottish 2nd Division after finishing bottom of the 1st Division with just 16 points in the season. Local Takeover During 2005/06, The future of the club looked doubtful after the club and its traditional home of Stark's Park were both placed under threat by previous owners Colin McGowan and Alex Short. The Glasgow based property developers had repeatedly threatened to sell Stark's Park for housing in a bid to find a buyer for their 50% stake in the club and after months of legal and financial wrangling a deal was struck with their company, West City Development. Former chairman Turnbull Hutton and director Mario Caira, who were part of West City retained their investment and have been joined by major investor John Sim, a Thailand-based senior financial figure with liquidator KPMG. The Reclaim the Rovers fans' campaign, which was launched in a bid to secure a local future for the club, has also secured a place for a Supporters' Representative, on the new-look board after raising £100,000 towards the final figure. On 30 December 2005, Raith Rovers' future was secured after a £1.2 million community buy-out (The New Raith Rovers Limited consortium) assisted by the then Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown who is now the current Prime Minister, who is a fan of the club. A number of individuals including previous Chairman David Sinton worked tirelessly behind the scenes, and for no reward other than the satisfaction of securing the club's future, for a number of months before the buy-out could finally be completed. eight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realistbear Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It is grossly unfair to equate Chamberlain with Brown. Chamberlain mishandled a crisis that was not of his making. Brown is mishandling one that he created himself. 100% correct. People are only now waking up to this fact. He simply allowed house prices to get out of control by failing to reign in excess, promulgating a "light touch" on bad practices, giving tax breaks to multiple home owners and BTL at a time when there was (was) a shortage, failing to maintain high IR when the market was getting out of control with HPINFLATION well above target.... And the cheeky sod blames the rest of the world for his mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pioneer31 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 She took their milk away. Half of them never drank it anyway (as I witnessed first hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilf Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Half of them never drank it anyway (as I witnessed first hand) I was milk monitor so had my first taste of redundancy, leading to a feeling of low self worth which means I'm now unemployable.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cash Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Brown is much worse than Chamberlain. Yes, Chamberlain was hoodwinked by Hitler in 1938, but Chamberlain spent the whole of the next year rearming Britain. Whereas Brown has spent the last 10 reaming Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7620239.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7620239.stm </a>Report from the BBC, that doesn't tell us much we didn't know. But curiously, isn't Gordo wearing Neville's old tie. What can we draw from this? "Insolvency in our time!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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