Gordon Brown Is Calm, Poised, Experienced And Decisive…

[SNACR]

Just remember that denial is one of the main indicators of an abuser... Moreover, your "happy child" is just over compensating, pretending all is well when the reality is oh so different...

It is crazy. As a man, I do my very best to avoid other people's children. A couple of years ago my then partner popped into the ladies at a museum we were visiting, when a small (perhaps 4 to 5 years old) rather upset girl came up to me. She had lost her mummy and very articulately stated the fact and was asking for my help. (I was so impressed at how well she handled herself.) I told her I would take her ot the reception so they could find her mummy (whilst praying that my gf would come of the loos so I wouldn't look like a predatory paedophile...she didn't ). So, off we go to the reception and, I presume wanting some comfort, she put out her hand for me to hold. I flinched slightly - I couldn't help it - she noticed, and she retracted her hand. I felt awful. She was only 4 or 5. What sort of message are we sending to our children?

Anyhow, had I overreacted? Was I being paranoid when I involuntarily flinched? I've had a number of conversations with people about this incident and the stories I have had back just disturbed me. One of the (female) brownie leaders in the same district as Miss D'oh was accused of child abuse after a girl complained she had been touched. (She was being given a ride home in the leader's car and she wouldn't put on a seatbelt, so the leader reached over and put the seat belt on, as it would have been illegal to drive the child home without the restraint...the little darling didn't take well to being told what to do and caused trouble. It took quite some time and stress to sort out, apparently.) On brownie camps, often the first time 7 or 8 year olds have been away from home, the leaders are not allowed to hug or physically comfort distressed brownies, for fear of abuse charges. They just have to stand by and let the kids cry. The society we are creating is really, really sick.

The other case was that of the head of my research group when I was in academia. He and his brother, a clinical psychologist, were approached by a 5 year old boy who had lost his mother. So, the psychologist got down on his knees, put his hands on the boys upper shoulders and was telling him that they would help find his mother...when she reappeared and hysterically threatened to call the police.

Yes, I've on several occasions ignored or pretended not to see lost children in deserted shopping centres as there was no female around. Usually, have to leave them there balling and distressed while I phone shopping centre security to tell them to stop playing online bingo (or worse) and look at their camera screens and send a female member of staff.

I really do hate what society has become and it has declined really quite quickly. In their 1984 way people say oh 'those days never really existed', but they did. I can actually remember when the police were approachable, friendly, helpful and didn't strut around dressed like Batman and Robocop's illegitimate love child.

Public paedophile hysteria does have a lot to answer for and it probably is a downside to the internet. It goes along the lines 'I know I'II vociferously shout about evil paedophiles and that way no-one will guess I spend my spare time looking at internet porn mostly featuring teenage girls depilated to look pre-pubescent'.

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The Gordon Brown exam question is like something from North Korea and more than slightly terrifying. What worries me is the calibre of the teaching profession that they're prepared to teach such drivel. I suspect that many teachers themselves are mediocre former-polytechnic graduates and it's getting into a feedback loop.

[SNACR]

Two weeks ago the old geezer across the street knocked on our door to say he had seen a little girl walking down the street on her own, and could my Mrs go and fetch her as he felt uncomfortable doing it in case he was accused of something.

By the time my other half had chased after the child she was almost into the traffic, so she grabs the kid, picks her up and starts walking back towards the house she thinks she may be from. Out comes the mum, snatches the child back, and heads away without so much as a thank you. "Your welcome" says my mrs sarcastically to the stroppy mum.

Saved her childs life cos the dozy cow hadn't shut the front door properly and she couldn't even say thanks.

Should have called called social servies down on her ar*e really.

And the next door neighbours little girl keeps wanting to come round and help me dig the garden (no father figure in her life, surprise surprise) and I agree if the mrs is around, and say it's no if the mrs is out shopping. Sad really.

You're never thanked for uncovering other people's parental shortcomings. They're not grateful you've returned what should be their most precious possession because it isn't their most precious possession and that's probably (not all cases, obviously kids do have a propensity for wandering off) how the child came to be lost in the first place.

[Guest anorthosite]

Don't be so ridiculous. Nobody gave a sh*t what children did 30 years ago let alone their parents. And as for fingerprinting LOL.

You can keep your fascist government.

No, I remember we did fingerprinting in about primary 1 or 2. The whole class did it. It wasn't sinister, just a fun little exercise for kids to larn by playing.

I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with your brainwashing of the youth theory, but it happened back then as well.

[General Melchett]

No, I remember we did fingerprinting in about primary 1 or 2. The whole class did it. It wasn't sinister, just a fun little exercise for kids to larn by playing.

I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with your brainwashing of the youth theory, but it happened back then as well.

Fair point, but did your prints then go on a database?

[Methinkshe]

No, I remember we did fingerprinting in about primary 1 or 2. The whole class did it. It wasn't sinister, just a fun little exercise for kids to larn by playing.

I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with your brainwashing of the youth theory, but it happened back then as well.

Thirty years ago? Sorry, but I doubt it. This was the time I was putting my kids through school and not one was ever faced with a "let's have fun finger-printing" exercise. Sure, we had the crap non-competitive Sports Day where there were no races just completing a course (that's one of the things that finally made me decide to home-school) but even then we didn't have finger-printing exercises. Are you sure you aren't getting confused with finger-painting?

Or perhaps you were living in the GDR at the time.

[Guest anorthosite]

Fair point, but did your prints then go on a database?

No, we took them home.

[Guest anorthosite]

Thirty years ago? Sorry, but I doubt it. This was the time I was putting my kids through school and not one was ever faced with a "let's have fun finger-printing" exercise. Sure, we had the crap non-competitive Sports Day where there were no races just completing a course (that's one of the things that finally made me decide to home-school) but even then we didn't have finger-printing exercises. Are you sure you aren't getting confused with finger-painting?

Or perhaps you were living in the GDR at the time.

Ok, so because your kids didn't have it I'm a liar?!? :angry:

[erranta]

Yes

My kids prefer to watch CBBC: Balamory is more known for parents speculating about whether Miss Houlie and PC Plum are an item.

I'm more worried about them watching Reality TV: Kids know all this stuff is as made up as the games they play

Madness? Madness is just being in the minority. I wouldnt like to put a label on anyone, lest someone puts one on me.

Always (OK, mostly.....)

I've been to Mull several times.

Stayed in TOBOR_MORY before I had ever heard of Bala_mory.

Do you SeeBBSee the 'Robot' they are brainwashing your kids into?

BB - Baal(Bala)-zebub?

The rainbow colours of the town are used as an anti Biblical Piss-Take, think about.

Loads of other stuff goes on in that island (The 'RING' of confidence!) - some of 'witch' has been revealed to the public domain in the 'Icke' thread.

No - I don't read/watch cr@p by Dan Brown of any of the other 'Labyrinthian' Rhennes le chateau - type 'creators' - it's done to lead you ASStray!

The tribe of 'Dan' - research them! Part of the Biblical 'pict_ure'!

[Financial Hack]

So much for education being objective and non-political.

What a ******ing disgrace.

[Methinkshe]

Ok, so because your kids didn't have it I'm a liar?!? :angry:

No, as you admit, you took your fingerprints home.

There is no equation, imo, between infant art classes where kids make a hand impression in clay or plaster of paris, or even a finger-tip impression in same, and where detailed fingerprints are taken for so-called security reasons at sufficient level of detail to be viably stored on a national police database for future identification.

[Financial Hack]

No, as you admit, you took your fingerprints home.

There is no equation, imo, between infant art classes where kids make a hand impression in clay or plaster of paris, or even a finger-tip impression in same, and where detailed fingerprints are taken for so-called security reasons at sufficient level of detail to be viably stored on a national police database for future identification.

Is that guy confusing finger painting with proper police fingerprinting techniques?

[Methinkshe]

Is that guy confusing finger painting with proper police fingerprinting techniques?

Better ask him.

All I know is that 30 years ago when I had eight youngsters at school, I was never aware of any school exercise where "proper" fingerprints were taken. Had I even read about it in a newspaper or heard of it via passing tittle-tattle, I would have withdrawn my children from state schools even earlier than I did.

[Guest anorthosite]

Is that guy confusing finger painting with proper police fingerprinting techniques?

No, I'm not.

We also did "What I did on my holiday" type essays, but we never thought there was anything suspicious about that either.

[Financial Hack]

No, I'm not.

We also did "What I did on my holiday" type essays, but we never thought there was anything suspicious about that either.

So what are you saying?

[SNACR]

Ok, so because your kids didn't have it I'm a liar?!? :angry:

Yep, we did fingerprinting as a seemingly innocuous exercise.

However, liberal-left type indoctrination has been there for a long time and education is infested with progressives.

I can remember doing an exam at middle school and after it was marked the teacher splitting the class into two groups and telling everyone that the group, that didn't do very well, was going to be sent to another school.#

I thought this was great news as this group mainly consisted of bullies or disruptive children. Then it turned out it was a cruel trick. The teacher said 'don't worry you're not going to be separated from your friends, that's what would have happened in olden days when there was something called grammar schools and the eleven-plus'.

Although, grammar schools had already been largely abolished the educational establishment was still making sure the ladder of selective education was firmly pulled up by conditioning subsequent generations against it.

The bottom line is state education is a government inspired left-wing mind f*ck and has been for a long time.

[Methinkshe]

No, I'm not.

We also did "What I did on my holiday" type essays, but we never thought there was anything suspicious about that either.

Could you explain what form the fingerprinting lessons took, then?

[Guest anorthosite]

So what are you saying?

That people are paranoid.

[Guest anorthosite]

Could you explain what form the fingerprinting lessons took, then?

Not in any detail, it was almost 30 years ago. I remember ink pads and little cards with a space for each finger. We took the fingerprints of the person sitting next to us.

[frozen_out]

We did the whole 'what did you do in the holidays thing' and in class 3 we had a 'my last night' book. Where you wrote about what you did the night before. Can't say I ever saw anything sinister in it.

My son's nursery has a puppy dog teddy bear that goes to each childs home at the weekend, in turn. They then write about the dogs weekend and take pictures and stuff. Is that sinister? I say it is. But that's only cause I'm jealous that one of the kids dads is a fighter pilot and has a picture of the dog in a fighter jet. Best we did was the train to whitby

[SNACR]

We did the whole 'what did you do in the holidays thing' and in class 3 we had a 'my last night' book. Where you wrote about what you did the night before. Can't say I ever saw anything sinister in it.

My son's nursery has a puppy dog teddy bear that goes to each childs home at the weekend, in turn. They then write about the dogs weekend and take pictures and stuff. Is that sinister? I say it is. But that's only cause I'm jealous that one of the kids dads is a fighter pilot and has a picture of the dog in a fighter jet. Best we did was the train to whitby

If they'd done that at my school, if it was lucky, it might've got a trip to Ladbrokes.

[R K]

Not in any detail, it was almost 30 years ago. I remember ink pads and little cards with a space for each finger. We took the fingerprints of the person sitting next to us.

Did your 'school' have bars at the windows and locks on the doors by any chance?

Er....I hate to tell you this...........

[CrashedOutAndBurned]

"Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Examinations".

Or maybe, "Oi! Qynt! Revise!".

Omni Consumer Robots

[Guest Skinty]

We also did "What I did on my holiday" type essays, but we never thought there was anything suspicious about that either.

Yeah but when I wrote at school about the games my parents and I had trying to hide packets of white powder in the lining of our suitcases from the customs officers I didn't get to see them for a few years.

[Guest anorthosite]

Did your 'school' have bars at the windows and locks on the doors by any chance?

Er....I hate to tell you this...........

Hey, its not me that's the paranoid one.

[Guest eight]

Public paedophile hysteria does have a lot to answer for and it probably is a downside to the internet. It goes along the lines 'I know I'II vociferously shout about evil paedophiles and that way no-one will guess I spend my spare time looking at internet porn mostly featuring teenage girls depilated to look pre-pubescent'.

Haha! Too good SNACR, too good.

I have a daughter myself, nearly one, and I'd never dream of treating anybody who showed an interest in her as having anything but the most innocent of motives. It's actually refreshing how many people (older folks, mostly) do make conversation just because you've got a child with you.

That's the way to defeat these idiots, ultimately.

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