youngfarmer Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 thanks again johnny...i will defintely take your advice on board...it really is excellant...aach iv been using the net a good 12years now...so i know the craic with peeps trying to wind me up...the best way to wind them up back...is to not acknowledge there winding up at all... ur man bearnecessities was really a smart alec lol...i actually thought he was an admin, by the way he was talking...but it was actually his first couple of posts...so hes probaly just one of those guys who goes around tonnes of forums and other blogs...trying to wind peeps up...he wasnt to bad at it tbh...but does seem rather over-educated for that kinda game...but i suppose its watever turns him on... i really have given the exposing of the haunted house alot of consideration over the past 2 years...and i came to the conclusion...that some mad freak who actually loves the paranormal world might wana pay big big money to live with such paranormal activities going on around them 24/7 hard to know i guess...i defintely wudnt wana sell the house for the toeragg...but i think its very very doubtful that that wud happen...it really is my intention to stop him from ever renting it again...and especially selling it... so i think ur line of thought is spot on my friend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 If its so woo-wootastic this should interest you 'believers' its a good link educatedchav...but somehow i dont think they are going to send a team over from the states to a lonely lane in northern ireland... have u anything a bit closer to home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPeon Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I have visions of you hitting Caps Lock, then pressing the letter you want and then tapping Caps Lock again to turn it off. Oh man you have no idea! I work in IT support and I'd say at least 1% of users don't know which key is 'shift' never mind what it does. Never underestimate the power of dumb. -- Anyway, to the OP and the other person who said they had ghosts, apparently with tangible evidence at times - Why the hell didn't you try to gather some hard evidence?? If it was me, and something seriously weird happened i'd be off to Maplins or whatever like a shot loading up on motion sensitive cameras etc. I'd borrow money or sell stuff if I had to. Everyone knows a friend of a friend who's techy enough to set it up. I don't beleive a ghost would stay quiet because there's recording equipment around - such gadgets didn't exist a lifetime ago. I don't beleive in ghosts but i'm not arrogant enough to proclaim they cannot exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 thanks for ur comments lazy...unfortunately it dont matter how hard the evidence is...paranormal activity and the spirit world are not recognised before the eyes of the law and the court system...even if we dragged the spirits into court with us lol i did set my webcam up in the bedroom that was most haunted in the house and left it running overnight...just was so hard to detect if it actually gathered any tangible substantial ghostly going-ons... my wee sister is coming for sunday dinner 2morrow...she is the person who slept in the bedroom with all the activity...i will get her to post on here what she experienced.....to give you guys a better idea... i know what your saying about having sum spooky video clips...but we have written statements from 5 wittnesnes confirmiing spirit activity at the dwelling...but they probaly aint worth the paper there written on... will play it by ear for now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPeon Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Decent quality footage of the kitchen table shaking around with no visible cause, along with sworn witness testimonies is going to cause a lot more of a stir than just the bits of paper on their own. How many series of Most Haunted etc have there been? I don't watch it but I bet nothing remotely as good as that ever happened; just a load of halfwits running round screaming cos someone farted unexpectedly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) i know what your saying peon...but unfortunately im no longer living in the property...i will have to see about befriending the new tenant...or getting sum1 to do it on my behalf... heres the only evidence we have...but my solictor has advised it is very very weak...but yet again, the only evidence the LL has is the tenancy agreement....but i guess that is enough... the LL sent us an invoice for £155 for an apparent carpet we had damaged, while we lived in the property...however...there is no room of this size on the property....does this not constitue a fraud??? Photos of back exterior door and Patio Doors clearly damaged and letting in rain water. Faulty wiring and cables Sceptic tank clearly lying wide open and exposed Phoned landlord on several occasions to rectify these ongoing problems. Also phoned letting agent (nine) times about these problems (26th February -5th March 2007) and (21st May- 30th May 2007 - 7 times). Have BT phone bill highlighting these phone calls! Furthermore, put in writing to landlord in various dates in February 2007 about the problems above and also the door handles which resulted in a child being locked in a room (24th February 2007). Have copies of these letters!!!! Letters from 2 separate people confirming above faults in house. DOES THIS EVIDENCE NOT CONFIRM (IN LEGAL TERMS) A SERIOUS BREACH OF THE TENANCY AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE LANDLORD????? Animals from neighbouring house causing a nuisance. 3 dogs and several horses, geese and ducks. Always on property of rented property because fence was not secure between the two properties. Dogs frequently went to toilet on property. Neighbours Labrador dog attacked several people walking past our house and several people calling at our house. Reported to police (19 June) and advised it was a matter for the environmental health and dog warden department at Down District Council (3rd July 2007). Owner was advised to keep dog under control. Does the landlord not have to present a Rent book? (is this legislation and law biding and does it violate the terms of the agreement) Does the landlord not have to present us with a CORGI gas Safety Certificate for any gas appliance....is this law binding? Does landlord have to actively show and produce evidence of trying to rent out property after our departure? we signed the agreement in december 2006...i think all the legislation changed in april 2007 i was just wondering if any1 else has ever heard of a case....where the tenant has offered the £3000, 6months rent owed to the landlord, plus the £600 deposit...and the LL still insists in dragging every1 into court.... be grateful for any advice...once again...typed this all in earlier...but me laptop crashed Edited April 12, 2009 by youngfarmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPeon Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Post these concerns, minus the supernatural bit, in the Landlordzone forums. There's at least one professional in there who gives out some good detailed technical advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topher Bear Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 opppppppps sorry...just figured out LL means landlord...we paid the rest of the money £3000 after about a year...and he had started court proceddings.... ast...not sure wat that means bear... yes. LL is LandLord (or LandLady), AST is Assured Shorthold Tenancy. After a year? I'm sorry, but when you sign up to 12 months, you sign up to the financial burden of 12 months also, unless 'the LL agrees to release you earlier, often due to finding a new tenent. I'm not surprised he's taking you to court. If you'd contunued to pay him, then he wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but a year late and he's going to want interest charges and 'damages'. And since you used a guarantor, then his beef will be with the Gaurantor, that is why they are there, to gaurantee the rental if the tenant stops paying, so she is proabably getting nasty letters from him also, and taking her to court. Therefore I'm not surprised she is p'd off with you. She's the one left holding the financial can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 yes yes Topher...i hear what your saying, and i appericiate your detailed response... Guarntor assumes somebodys else's debt...and to be quite honest i dont giv a flying Fook if my sister-in-law has to pay...i probaly hate her more than th LL now...but he doesnt seem to wana chase her unfortunately...but he will have to eventually....even my brother, the Guantors wife says she shud have said she didnt sign it...and it was forged she could have got out of this at the very start, by simply saying she knows nothing about a tenancy agreement or she signed it under duress...but she choose not to...and took the side of the landlord....so hell slap it up her if she has to pay...il be more than happy if she never speaks to me again... what do you reckon about not having a rent book, or not being presented with a CORGI certificate...and the invoice for the carpet that doesnt exist... surely this proves that the landlord is an outright liar and a cheap fraud... dont get me wrong...i wud love for the LL to have to pay his own costs and relieve the Guarntor of any financial burden...but i guess it will be the judge who decides that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 yes yes Topher...i hear what your saying, and i appericiate your detailed response...Guarntor assumes somebodys else's debt...and to be quite honest i dont giv a flying Fook if my sister-in-law has to pay...i probaly hate her more than th LL now...but he doesnt seem to wana chase her unfortunately...but he will have to eventually....even my brother, the Guantors wife says she shud have said she didnt sign it...and it was forged she could have got out of this at the very start, by simply saying she knows nothing about a tenancy agreement or she signed it under duress...but she choose not to...and took the side of the landlord....so hell slap it up her if she has to pay...il be more than happy if she never speaks to me again... what do you reckon about not having a rent book, or not being presented with a CORGI certificate...and the invoice for the carpet that doesnt exist... surely this proves that the landlord is an outright liar and a cheap fraud... dont get me wrong...i wud love for the LL to have to pay his own costs and relieve the Guarntor of any financial burden...but i guess it will be the judge who decides that... You sound like a really dodgy piece of work to me. Pay up and put an end to this nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 You sound like a really dodgy piece of work to me. Pay up and put an end to this nonsense! Definitely. I think that became glaringly obvious in post 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Uttley Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 ...im hoping they will get sick of chasing us... You mean "give up the ghost". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 You mean "give up the ghost". I think we should stop with the ghoulish comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Boo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 i will burn in hell before i pay the landlord and his wife...the costs...the Guarntor was big enough and bad enough to sign the agreement...she can pay their costs...again it will be the judge who decides this i hope some of you guys have to experience the same scerino as we did...put yourself in my shoes... you move into a rented property...however your young children are screaming in fear every night...and you cant figure out why...eventually u establish that the property is haunted... would you have much love for the landlord and his wife...some how i dont think so...unless u want your family living in fear... nothing dodgy about me at all popeye...you tell me what you would do in similar circumstances my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Could ya not have a word wid da Oirish Fairies lad? They'll see the ghosties off so they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 dude can ya kindly refrain from making a joke outa this whole thing please...there has been a very high human cost to this whole epsiode... i dont expect everyone on here to believe what happened...there quite within there right to hold their views...but please stop making a mockery of the whole tihng...alot of people have suffered over the head of this house from hell...and i just wana stop it from happening to another family.... is that really that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 dude can ya kindly refrain from making a joke outa this whole thing please...there has been a very high human cost to this whole epsiode... Fair enough mate. What sort of amount are they seeking for costs? Is it not worth paying them off to put all this aggro behind you, especially if it's breaking up your family. We all have our pride, and it's hard for us blokes to back down sometimes, but you should put the wellbeing of your family first and foremost. You'll have to put up with the ghost piss-taking, not many of us believe in all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 thank-you man...glad to get a worthwhile comment out of you... unfortunately we have no idea of what the costs will amount too...we took the advice of our solictor for the same reasons you have stated (for the families sake) and paid them £3600 into a cilent account (this covers the 6months rent, plus deposit)...so the judge and counsel and all lawyers involved know this money is sitting waiting for the landlord.... that payment was made in june 08...the month my brother married the Guarntor (we thought this would have ended it all) but to this day...the LL has not accepted or rejected it....with a rough guess i would say the costs would amount to 6-10k...hard to put a figure on it...theres so many people involved.... my dad has been allocated a social worker recently....because he had somewhat of a mental breakdown...so i think she is trying to cut some sort of deal...but i just dont think the LL is going to accept any sort of deal...its a bloody nightmare tbh...im not worried abut loosing my sister-in-law....that relationship is beyond redemption...and my brother is kinda stuck in the middle, Bigtime...and his best mate (an old friend of mine) is the Guarntors solictor....its a fooking mess tbh... your right about the male pride and ego...but we have kept them hanging on 2 years...mum and dad are just not well enough to attend court...and will not be for the foreseeable future....its them who have signed the aggreement...i would gladly go to court on their behalf...but i just dont think that wud be allowed... i just believe the root cause of all our problems is the LL's dishonesty....he even had a paragraph in the agreement stating...that once we left the property...we could not say a bad word about the house...i think that says everything... thanks again for ur comments...and i understand about the p£ss-taking...but i can take it...my brother dont even believe us...but we moved out of the house for his benefit as well...becos his wife (the Guarntor) was 8months pregant at the time...but she dont recognise this at all... the house should be condemed...i just need to get talking to the right people...theres no way our solictor will even mention the spirit activity in a court of law...it would do her reputation alot of damage...its a mess and theres no way out off it... we have paid the rent...to me thats now a seperate issue...the issue up for debate is the costs...rough estimate...i wud say ur maybe talking about 1 r 2 thousand per party...no1 seems to know the exact figure tbh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Can your solicitor not speak to his to find out what they might settle for out of court? I doubt they want the aggro that much either. Just for good measure, agree that if they don't try and rip you off, you'll agree to a non-disclosure agreement to stop you talking to the press. The tabloids would love this sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 thats a really good suggestion m8...il get onto my parents brief in the morning...and suggest that to her...but even the LL's solictor has addmitted that his cilents are the most unreasonable clients he has ever dealt with... thanks again...but i really think the LL wants to nail us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) thats a really good suggestion m8...il get onto my parents brief in the morning...and suggest that to her...but even the LL's solictor has addmitted that his cilents are the most unreasonable clients he has ever dealt with...thanks again...but i really think the LL wants to nail us Maybe you could do a bit of 'digging' into the landlords past to see if he has any 'skeletons' in his closet? That could help you put a nail in his 'coffin' with regards to this claim? - maybe in his younger years he was the life and 'soul' of the party? I am sure that would give the press more to 'sink their teeth into' than the simple 'we don’t want to pay anymore so have moved' scenario which is obviously the case at present. - Did the landlord every start any kind of eviction process with you - a 'possession' order is often very important. Remember to keep everything well documented, after all the 'devils' in the detail! Anything you miss may come back to ‘haunt’ you at a later date. Edited April 14, 2009 by Planner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarmer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 awesome comment planner lol...the landlord is only in his early 40's and kinda hard to find out anything about him...he does look like a bit of a convict tbh...but he is now leasing a local pub...and is probaly seen as an outstanding member of the public...altho i have my doubts... no planner...he never started any type of possession order against us...but he really is haunting us in mind body and soul lol... but i plan to haunt him for an eternity...him running this bar...he is a sitting duck...u never know who could walk in and accidently find some maggots in there soup!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Maybe you could do a bit of 'digging' into the landlords past to see if he has any 'skeletons' in his closet? That could help you put a nail in his 'coffin' with regards to this claim? - maybe in his younger years he was the life and 'soul' of the party? I am sure that would give the press more to 'sink their teeth into' than the simple 'we don’t want to pay anymore so have moved' scenario which is obviously the case at present. - Did the landlord every start any kind of eviction process with you - a 'possession' order is often very important. Remember to keep everything well documented, after all the 'devils' in the detail! Anything you miss may come back to ‘haunt’ you at a later date. Combining genuine advice and taking the mick - that's a skill. I started to feel bad for the chap, so I've binned the piss-taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 awesome comment planner lol...the landlord is only in his early 40's and kinda hard to find out anything about him...he does look like a bit of a convict tbh...but he is now leasing a local pub...and is probaly seen as an outstanding member of the public...altho i have my doubts...no planner...he never started any type of possession order against us...but he really is haunting us in mind body and soul lol... but i plan to haunt him for an eternity...him running this bar...he is a sitting duck...u never know who could walk in and accidently find some maggots in there soup!!! Excellent. I am glad I have raised the 'spectre' of a possible way forward for you. I would personally try and do it without getting the law profession involved, I hear they are just all 'blood suckers' at heart. Its also nice to see that you can see the light hearted side of things in some of the posts. Its giving you good practice for the judges response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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