FTB-house-hunter

Another YE customer here, have had scottish power before and will be moving on as soon as I can. At least scottish power are allowing YE credit to roll over, have over £200 credit with YE in preperation for the big winter bills! One suspects it was part of the aggrement that allowed them to take over the 75k customers.

Agreed

If no one is selling, how is anyone buying any coins???

200 meg line, was getting 179meg yesterday from xbox live no problem (get a better game)

Find where I said I wanted and supported the scientific method i described? You won't be able too because I didn't say it. I provided exactly what was asked for in the original quote i posted. Sorry to disappoint you Maybe peddle your rubbish elsewhere instead of trying to pretend you understand what is going on.

Note I didn't say I wanted or supported this. People asked for a purely scientific way out, and i gave one

Sure, lock down hard for 4 weeks, a proper lock down with everything shut apart from hospitals and care homes. No supermarkets etc or other "essential" shops are allowed to open. The army and police stop everyone travelling by arresting, and then seizing vehicles and crushing them, if caught out and about with a valid reason (hospital or care worker going to work). Food delivery to every house hold for the four weeks. Everyone has to lump it for 4 weeks, no exercise, no nothing. After the four weeks you would be down to a few 100 cases a day, which a proper enforced track and trace system could handle via enforced seperation for anyone infected for 2 weeks in a hotel etc. Would have been a cheaper system to implement than the money already spunked up the wall and given away to friends of the government. Worked for China because they don't take no for an answer. Thats the scientific answer which would allow everything to reopen in a month. Lets be honest though, it would never happen in the UK or any western country, only a place like China could get away with it.

*Sigh* 1/10 - must try harder https://fullfact.org/online/PCR-test-coronavirus/

What the hell does a paper from 2006 have to do with the current virus? You do realise that the coronavirus is the name for the family of viruses, not just the current virus? It's a PCR test, the virus is either there, or isnt. Stop banging on about false positives inflating the numbers. With the greatest respect, you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Stop finding rubbish on the interent and trying to pass it off as relevant. We have been here before when i posted a reply to your earlier rubbish on this thread...

https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/23/universal-mask-use-could-save-130000-lives-by-the-end-of-february-new-modeling-study-says/ As unsurprising as their conclusion is, it can still be useful to say it. “We don’t need a model to tell us that we should all be wearing masks, we don’t need a model to tell us that if we continue the way we’re going, we’re going to see tens of thousands more deaths within the next couple of months,” https://www.slashgear.com/scientists-say-high-quality-fabric-face-masks-are-needed-to-slow-pandemic-23644105/ Any face mask is better than no face mask at all, https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/23/health/fauci-covid-mask-mandate-bn/index.html "Well, if people are not wearing masks, then maybe we should be mandating it," Fauci told CNN's Erin Burnett Friday. With the greatest respect Mr Preacherman, you don't half talk a lot of crap. Masks do work to help stop the spread of the virus. Yes not every mask will provide 100% protection, but as in link number two... Any face mask is better than no face mask at all If you don't understand that simple fact than god help you

So 19,722 new cases on the 14th is the peak of this wave? What happens if we get 20k+ on a day this week? Is it a one off? If it happens two times? Where do you draw the line and say we haven't peaked? Genuine interest here.

Why am i not suprised...

It's not very hard, is it?

Whats that got to do with anything? Roche have ballsed up their new factory and are struggling to supply Roche products. if a GP area are using Roche products, they are having issues getting Roche products? Nothing to do with the corona virus! Go blame Roche and the over reaction of one GP area. There was an issue of getting Roche point of care strips for warfarin patients the other day... there was no cancelling of blood test though, they just took veinous samples and tested them.

Allegations of rascism? Are you being serious? Maybe if they had targetted low areas of infections which are mostly white, such as Sutton Coldfield and Hartbourne, you would have some kind of point. However they are targetting areas of high infections, which have a higher population of BAME, which as you should know are at the most risk. You know what, I am out. Good night everyone.

RAF cadets are the ones handing out the tests and knocking on doors, so no, it really isn't a waste of resources and time. The more data you have, (including negative results) the better the data set you have. I have not seen any resources or shortage of blood test for people who are actually ill, and I really should know as blood tests are what I do for a living! Am not quite sure why, but you really seem to have an axe to grind from your previous posts on this thread.

All a plot to bring in a 1984 style government A plot to experiment/kill the asian and black population off A plot to make the multi-cultural areas seem worse then they are A GP/Doctor conspiracy letting the army do the testing A mandatory vaccines or your not allowed to work Something more sinister behind the scenes going on Asymptomatic is a made up word for the brainwashing Collecting dna ready for new world order Depopulation Through Forced Vaccination:The Zero Carbon Solution Less than three minutes on the local facebook page. It's about all i can stomach before I had top close the page down. i really dispair at the state and gullibility of some people

Wouldn't suprise me, especially in the area they are in. It's full of idiots like the guy recording the video who knows better then everyone else and have convinced themselves and everyone who will listen it's either just the flu bro and a giant conspiracy for xyz. Let's face it, a lot of the public are only bothered about themself nowadays and individual responsibility doesn't exsit anymore.

They are offering self test kits in areas of high risk/outbreaks. Been around the Birmingham area for a few days now. Seems a good idea to me as the more people you can find who are positive, the easier it is to help try and stop the spread. Hasn't stopped the conspiracy theories from being banded about tho...

Isn't this more on the public being idiots than the government? If people don't isolate, fine them? I am fairly certain it's easy to understand that when you are told to self isolate, for what ever reason, you self isolate? Take broad street in birmingham last night, stacks and stacks of people getting in one last night on the town before places are forced to shut at 10:00pm. Idiotic, selfish behaviour. Nobody wants to take personal responsibility for their own actions any more, blame the government all you like, it's people that are the problem.

What ever the government do, or do not do, they will never please everyone. Even if the government try to strike a balance between opening the economy and protecting the vulnerable, it still would be the wrong call for some. They are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. I am glad it's not me making the decisions. Talking about the spread of the Coronavirus, I wouldn't blame the government for the start of the first wave. The second public health england decided to be the only ones allowed to test for the virus, the country was doomed. By the time the mistake was realised, every country in the world was scrambling for the equipment and reagents to test, leading to major delays. The second wave was created by opening up far to early in order to try and save the economy. Lets be honest here though, nobody is forced to go eat out, or visit the pub, or visit a certain castle. By the time the eat out to help out was starting, the public was fed up of lock down and wanted to get outside and back to normal. It is people that are responsible for the spread of the virus at the end of the day, not the government. No virus can replicate on it's own (or at the governments command)! This is why a lot of eastern countries did well. Take wearing a mask (a normal thing for some due to pollution etc) this directly helped them stop the spread. The UK though, most people won't even wear a mask because why should they? People need to start looking into a mirror more, before they start blaming others. The sad thing is though it will never happen, as it's always going to be someone else fault for some. Entitlement has a hell of a lot to answer for... The majoirty of people in the UK haven't realised that we are in uncharted waters here, and will be for months/years to come. By the time this is all over, we will not return to what was the old normal.

The video has been set to private, thats all. No big conspiracy theory required It's still available on facebook.

Have a look at this for more info

Everyone that is admitted into A&E gets a test, doesn't matter if you have had a fall and broken your hip, or got pissed and are unconscious. This of course means that the test rate and negative results are bound to go up. While the infection rate has definielty come down, i don't think it's time to call the epidemic over just yet...especially not with winter on it's way!

Thats how it works in China in some shops. It's all scanned, added up and then paid for via QR code.