Self Employed Youth

But the beer that I buy with the money I don't have is 90% tax so its all good for the state! The stuff I smoke on the other hand...

Give them a couple of/few quid an hour rather than less/up to 90p ph when they do 40 hours work, compared to benefit. Nobody in their right mind works at a loss/for a pittance, although a few do, they are a retarded minority, in the UK at least.

I've seen myself how homelessness can result in crime and then prison. I've also seen crime result in homelessness and then prison. To distinguish between the two is quite difficult, but hopefully will be easier in the future. Currently I see prison as a form of social housing (due to the lack of it). At times I have considered getting locked up, to have a roof over my head, and I know people who have done so.

The foxconn suicide rate is lower than the Chinese national average. It is also lower than the male suicide rate in the UK. The suicide rate in the UK has been declining, up until 2007, especially so in males over 75 (even n 2008), for most it remains stagnant, but it is now increasing in males under 75. Suicide and unemployment are related, so you can guess further increases will have occurred in 2009, 2010. Let's wait and see when the figures are released. And remember, more men have suffered unemployment than women in the recession (in the UK at least). Suicides also increase when the Conservatives in power, so if I were to say "the Conservatives are trying to make me kill myself", you might think I was a little bit mental, however, the Conservatives are increasing my likelihood of unemployment, as such they are increasing my potential mental health problems, thus the likelihood of me committing suicide. So you would be correct in thinking, that I'm mental, but I'd be correct in my statement, because they are trying to make me kill myself by making me mental first.

Not meatballs ;)We also supplied Waitrose, Sainsbury's, NISA and a few others. Sometimes a single box of our meat product would be sent on a pallet lol, but more often than not 100-120 crates per pallet for ASDA, I used to enjoy increasing the density per pallet (often saving the company money by requiring less lorries).

You can claim housing benefit for 13 weeks while your in prison, so if your on a short sentence, you have a home to return to. However, when leaving prison, you get housing priority anyhow. If your serving longer than 6 years, then it might be worth going bankrupt!

ASDA I know is bad for it. A certain pack of smartprice meat. Price in store = £1.50 Cost to manufacture ~70p. Price paid by ASDA = just under 71p per unit.

I'm with a housing association.Rent increase by RPI+0.5%Eventually I will have less than nothing, unless benefits/wages rise above RPI+0.5% consistently that is.

Some of us are prime candidates (users like me self), whilst we could be easily exploited I don't think it would further HPCer's cause. Just keep reporting facts, stay away from the idealogy of the sheeple. The facts need speak only for themselves. End of!

The sheeple are exploited, it maybe the economic nature and one at times prevalent on here amongst a few, it never has been right. Let people show themselves up, fair do's, don't condemn them when they were helped on the way down ey

I own my own TV, but I don't use/watch it, nor pay for a license. I've more furniture than I need ,and I got it all for free. Although my curtains are 3rd hand, the paint on the wall, I painted myself. And I live in social housing, so I am SCUM. Social warehousing should be explicitly outlawed, the poor should not be allowed to work in order to improve their own lot. And my friends would rob someone to buy me a crack {Although I'd give it back to them (crackheads with thee one track mind!) whilst we drink wine(my vice)}.

I personally think this would be the best way. This is how people calculate the incentive to work. Naturally Benefits = 0 Work = -ve,0,+ve Work must be greater than £Xph Ideally = at least the price of a pint at your local I'd work for a pint of beer, gladly. For a negative income I'll opt to sign on and use my time to brew my own.

After completing my degree (I still need to pay to receive it mind you), I took up work at a local factory, working with working class, Eastern European & Russian (Latvian pasports) comrades. In 12 hours we'd shift about 25 tonne of meat each from a (24/7/364 moving) line to pallet, to warehouse, with the aid of pallets and a pump truck. 4 on 4 off. I did the 84 week a few times. I enjoyed the job, it was very hard work, but I enjoyed it. I didn't enjoy the agency paying me for 3 days instead of 4, not paying holiday pay, reducing my salary via a travel to work scheme, whereby they took my tax instead of hmrc giving me a penny of it back in the £, making me only slightly better off in the short term. What made me quit though, was them asking for us to work half shifts, if we had a low order, when they would employ people for a single day if we had a high order, before telling them there was no work, rather than offer overtime to existing staff struggling to get by. The newly arrived Latvians would come to work everyday and ask for it, because they are unable to claim benefits until they work a year then they can get working tax credit etc. in fact a friend I was working with, was 26 and claiming it, having been in the uk only 13 months, me being unable due to being under 25, even though I'd paid tax & NI for four years out of the past seven (with some part-time work in the three uni years), I could not. I quit, £200 a week (up to - mising pay etc.) after paying £20 on buses, 14 hours travel and 42 hours working, wasn't worth it, when I can claim £140 benefits, visit the dentist etc. By quitting, I made it possible for my friends to get overtime too a single box of meat (we shifted minimum 1500 per shift, often 4000+) would fetch £50 when it got to the supermarket, it was equivalent to the wage for a 12 hour shift (tax ni and 15+30+15min break deducted). Day shift would drop nearly 10 a day, and had more staff, we seldom dropped 1 a day. The day I quit 30 were dropped! Any dropped were waste... 2 more staff and the supervisor quit too the following week on our shift. For the sake of trying to save £25, they lost 3 members of staff and minimum £1500 profit (in the meat lost as I walked out), let alone the others.

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The baby boom still leaves us with a birth rate below replacement level. 25% of babies are born to immigrants, (1st, 2nd gen immigrants aren't counted). Immigrants, 1st gen and 2 gen only make up 12% of population.

Having recently not graduated from there with a lower degree than I expected, (massive family problems led to me being homeless twice throughout the course - and I could not afford my contribution to the fees based upon my parents income, thus owing a £1000 or so before I can collect the certificate), not really. There is work available in call centres (4 hour shifts) and 4 on 4 off,12 hour shifts at a few factories, bit off bar work when the students are in town, but this seems to be filled by previous students long term after graduation. All at nmw. I worked in a factory for half a year, jacked it in and moved. Although the centre looks nice (from the town side of the station up to the town/city hall) after receiving 100s of millions from the EU, the rest of it doesn't and the place is going downhill. I get by on the dole for the time being, while I plan what I want to do. Even the immigrants are leaving now too, well the Eastern Europeans I was working with are, they realised they couldn't save anything and might aswell be working at home, living with their families.

50000 students there, only a few of lap dancing clubs, but plenty of regulated brothels and hidden ones too, plenty of foreigners mind you. Only 1/5 of the population is on the housing list, it is known as a city of Sanctuary, inviting refugees from around the world.

I can't afford the ale and car, I'm pointing out they are more expensive. The unemployment benefit for those that work and pay in but find themselves temporarily unemployed is lower now in real terms than it was in 1948, http://www.poverty.org.uk/reports/unemployment.pdf page11

Not neccesarily. Older houses are generally worth more, these new ones are tiny!

You at least need to be 25 for insurance purposes, as well as lower income, we have larger bills across the board.

In Afghanistan they were about to run on the bank! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11163602

It's much easier to hide crime if your rich.Weren't your parents responsible, the state?Your parents were provided with council housing, for one, child benefit, etc, you got a free education.</br>Rational-legal authority uses force, the system works at the minute because the government is strongest. they have the police and military at their disposal.

What's worrying is that they (the sheeple) don't seem to realise this.Grandparent boomer thinks a 2nd house is a good pension investment, because he can rent it to the young for example. Not realising the taxes of the youth will provide his healthcare and many associated OAP-benefits.Neglecting the fact that youth unemployment is rising massively across the 'developed' world, along with working poverty (especially amongst the youth). Add in to the equation, less youth than elderly, and then gambling by betting on an increasing rental value of a house/property to rent to a demographic smaller in number and with effectively decreasing wages seems foolish.Jobs for the young are what is needed, for a better future for all that is.

I'm under 25 and my age cohort has an unemployment rate over 20%. We get lower unemployment benefit. Lower housing benefit, restricted access to housing (the policies are designed with the intention of having the under 25s live at home with parents, it says so in the documents which define the policies). If we wish to drive we legally require insurance, and that is much higher. We have a higher metabolism and require more food. We cannot claim working tax credit. We have had to pay for our education. In real terms unemployment benefits are lower than they ever have been (but food is cheaper so its hard to notice). We have a potentially lower life expectancy and will be required to work longer. The tax on goods like tobacco and alcohol are ridiculously high vs the cost of production.Now, I'm not implying age discrimination. But I tell thee now. As a 6ft unemployed male of 24, I'd quite like to be a foot smaller, female (so I didn't need as much food/ale and got cheaper car insurance), and a year older for a benefit income rise.It's a shame I don't have a unisex name as I could lie about my sex when it is advantageous to do so and if I could get a fake passport I could sign on with a different DOB. Oh well, nevermind, we can't have it all.Money doesn't grow on trees, unless you make paper for currency, burn wood for fuel, craft furniture, build wooden houses, grow food, grow cashabis etc.

Why the hell should I pay taxes to the state, the local authority, on my wages, beer, cigarettes, petrol, food etc.? Unacceptable behaviour is found in all social classes, it should be dealt with by the police, it does not matter whether the person is a tenant/landowner/mortgagee, poor/rich. If I were to get a mortgage, it would be cheaper than renting now, even if interest rose to 7% My rent increases annually above the rate of inflation, the rent eats up more and more of peoples wages over time. The HA makes massive profits, it is not subsidised and money is paid to the government also. Yet it is supposed to be no for profit. You seem very anti-social housing, yet you were brought up in it (when it was far cheaper too), maybe you should have been left homeless as a child and the world would be a better place, they should have never housed statistically likely to be scum people like yoursef. The state has a duty to house people, it imposes land ownership and taxes upon us, it restricts us from acquiring land and building properties for ourselves.