nixy Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 http://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oil at 11min 38 sec ....and what will happen when we run out of slaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lepista Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 http://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oilat 11min 38 sec ....and what will happen when we run out of slaves? That assumes that someone would work for $15 an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cage Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) From what I skipped through, too much like Fahrenheit 451, factoids dressed as knowledge. "They stuff you with so much useless information, you feel full."* I didn't learn anything but felt a lot celeverer This terrible trend to provide data in a video in a flash container,I prefer sources and text and even graphs that can be reproduced. Audio is a big disadvantage for those in an office environment. *http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/ Edited August 28, 2008 by maxwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Baby Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 From what I skipped through, too much like Fahrenheit 451, factoids dressed as knowledge.....Audio is a big disadvantagefor those in an office environment. Using Princeton's definition of a factoid as something resembling a fact; unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print then rather a harsh put down of what seems a thorough, clear summary of peak oil. Maybe you would get more from the whole thing as opposed to skipping through it without sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravity always wins Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 http://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oilat 11min 38 sec ....and what will happen when we run out of slaves? When the ghost slave - oil runs out the slaves will be those with debt and worthless assets and the banks will be their masters. Simultaneous peak oil and peak credit is no coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cage Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) Using Princeton's definition of a factoid as something resembling a fact; unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print then rather a harsh put down of what seems a thorough, clear summary of peak oil.Maybe you would get more from the whole thing as opposed to skipping through it without sound I watched through and got a bit hooked, so watched another 4-5 chapters. Didn't really learn anything about the solution but I can see he is trying to explain the basics, the lack of sources and some slightly odd graphs (such as the declining production graph of 5% per year 2 Million as the starting point and it ends up a bit wrong) and quotes that may by urban myths. The problem I still have is after being jammed full of information, by not working through it or researching I really didn't learn anything, except a belief in oil being very valuable. It felt the same as being on a inside track lecture I imagine, uncomfortable because I had to trust everything implicitly yet could see nothing really wrong with it. Edit: hvae have. Edited August 29, 2008 by maxwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbullfence Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 http://www.chrismartenson.com/peak_oilat 11min 38 sec ....and what will happen when we run out of slaves? Utter crap. I take it by this logic then, a gallon of rocket fuel is worth infinity as all the manual resources in the world couldn't do the same job? What about a CPU? If you had to have people manually switch data using pieces of paper than an average CPU chip is worth hundreds of billions of pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen_out Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Utter crap.I take it by this logic then, a gallon of rocket fuel is worth infinity as all the manual resources in the world couldn't do the same job? What about a CPU? If you had to have people manually switch data using pieces of paper than an average CPU chip is worth hundreds of billions of pounds. You misunderstand the logic. This is how a profit is made. The profit currently being made is only so large because of oil. It allows the industrial economy to do things that it otherwise couldn't. And the CPU IS worth hundreds of billions of bounds. Look at the size of the global IT industry. When oil runs out, unless we've found an alternative capable of producing the equivalent vast amounts of energy then we'll be back to harvesting our only free energy source - the sun. Meaning we'll be going right back to a primarily agrarian economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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