AdV Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Do you think the turning point was the brutal murder of Theo van Gogh? Correct me if I'm wrong but he was cycling to work and had his heart cut out. I think the turning point was when Pim Fortuyn became popular, he made it ok to see out loud what a lot of people were thinking but never said because the were afraid to be seen as intolerant or politically incorrect. Unfortunately it hasn't made the situation any better. Haven't lived in the Netherlands for over a decade, it has changed so much since then. Personally I think we had the same problems with immigrants 10 years ago but the overall attitude towards immigrants was less hostile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzlybear Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I think the turning point was when Pim Fortuyn became popular, he made it ok to see out loud what a lot of people were thinking but never said because the were afraid to be seen as intolerant or politically incorrect. Unfortunately it hasn't made the situation any better. Haven't lived in the Netherlands for over a decade, it has changed so much since then. Personally I think we had the same problems with immigrants 10 years ago but the overall attitude towards immigrants was less hostile. The turning point was long before Pym Fortuyn. Things had already turned enough to for him to be on the verge of taking power. I'll agree that he gave a voice to a popular yet unspoken belief. For such a party/ leader to have come from nowhere & beaten the mainstream parties in Holland must represent this turning point having been reached surely. The other big diference between the immigration problems of 10 years previous & now is 10 more years of mass immigration & white flight of course. Hence the hostility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 No - thick thighs and thick heads. Plus they smell like Billingsgate Fish Market. Things must have changed since last September when the vast majority were tall, leggy and gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Do you think the turning point was the brutal murder of Theo van Gogh? Correct me if I'm wrong but he was cycling to work and had his heart cut out.Why do foreigners living in the Netherlands want to import foreign brides? Aren't Dutch women good enough? I heard a snippet from Geert Wilders on early five live. He was asked if he would now try to return to England. He said now that Jackie Smith and her porn buying husband had gone he would like to come back here if the British are still interested in free speech and that you don't have to agree with what he says but at least allow him the opportunity to discuss his views. At a pre-trial hearing, a prosecutor alleged that Mohammed Bouyeri had calmly shot Mr Van Gogh seven times as he cycled to work and then cut his throat. Mr Bouyeri, who was not in court on Wednesday, then pinned a letter to Mr Van Gogh's chest with the knife. Religion of peace indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardon Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Things must have changed since last September when the vast majority were tall, leggy and gorgeous. Did you frequent a coffee shop before you went down ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Did you frequent a coffee shop before you went down ? Certainly not. On the other hand it may well have been a trannie bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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