Rupert the Rubbish

So, I do not agree, which means I must be in a conspiracy. Sorry, this is a little childish. I work in the industry and I am happy to explain some aspects. This type of nonsense does your case no good at all.

The PCR tests can distinguish very easily between flu and covid. I am not sure where you get the information otherwise. This is my field, and while a biological assay in the field will always be a little messy the two are, on a molecular level, very distinct. I am happy to explain this further if you are interested?

All the evidence does suggest it arrived later in the UK, We could put in place Norway or Denmark and compare to Sweden in terms of death.

I must have missed them too, only barely being 50 years old.

I am not saying he is right. I am saying that people coming to the board will see you as having alternative views. They will also see some posters being very upset with those that disagree with them. Looking back earlier in that thread, both sides seem ugly. I am afraid it is not the mainstream views than have to justify themselves to the casual observer.

We can see different approaches. Italy was late to shutdown, but did so harshly. It was draconian and ineffective. Others such as FInland shutdown mildly and early, which was effective. Not shutting down tended to leading to doing so later when it was too late to be effective.

I think that if half the population, and over half of the working people and dispropotionately qualified people left, it might be bad for the UK too.

That really was the best knowledge available in 2020. I think many on here only listen to what suits them. And bob8 has pages of insults of him so I think both sides should look at themselves.

The science could not really speak in 2020, as it was a novel disease. Using precautions that typically work for comparable pathogens was sensible. The threat was not to the majority of people directly, but it was to the health systems' capacity. This certainly was a real threat. YOu must know some people yourself who were working at the front end?

This does seem a leap. We know there was a novel disease going round, as well as the reaction to this disease. We also know that strange results sometimes come up, so assuming it is a pet theory is intellectually lazy.

This discussion has been emotive. I would suggest you engage with his arguments rather than this approach.

I work in this industry and much of what came out at first was unreliable. I am happy to acknowledge that. It was simply that it was a new disease and we did not know much about it. That is the nature of science, it is about improving the model. The population used to be "immunologically naive", thankfully that is less and less the case through a combination of vaccination and exposure to the pathogen. That said, China's struggle shows how useful the effective vaccines were.

What bit of what he is saying seems controversial to you?

You are stupid and deluded. My apologies to other posters who I thought were being unnecessarily rude.

I am arguing that you have to tailor the job conditions to whom you want to recruit. Clearly, nurses in the UK are very, very underpaid, which is why there is a recruitment crisis. We will still get people wanting to be MPs, but they could well start being more limited to odd people.