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You kow tow to the French by all means.

School has finished, you should be out playing with the other kids in the snow

I'm afraid you don't. You certainly don't speak for me.

Start revoking French fishing licences. That will focus some minds 😉

In your opinion maybe, but not in mine.

So why the sudden much greater focus on our self inflicted problems post June 2016? Why not at any other time during the decades prior? Brexit has worked, we have left the EU and ended FoM. Our own industrial policies & attitudes etc will determine how much we do or don't make of it and so this will be very much linked to the governments we vote for.

MSM and many remainers. It's a shame you weren't aware then of the 3 decades of damage already done, whilst we were part of the EU and before you started to care about a small portion of sod all by way of comparison, after we left. The damage was done long before Brexit.

More than that. They are realising the economic damage losing such industry causes. Damage they were happily ignoring whilst we were part of the EU, but suddenly at least pretending to care about now we have left.

I know. I keep repeating this. But for some strange reason, many people didn't give a toss while we were members of the EU, but suddenly started giving a toss when we voted to leave the EU.

It's all 'Fatcher's fault has segued into It's all Brexit's fault 😄

Hardly a surprise regarding Germany, they have always held manufacturing and engineering in far higher esteem than the UK. It was a mindset which needed changing and it has taken Brexit to do this. The MSM and even here on this board are full of examples of a renewed focus on manufacturing. We are more in danger of rising sea levels from all the remainer crocodile tears due to their renewed focus on manufacturing than from climate change.

Well true, they don't have to get fixed, they can indeed just be ignored and get worse. 3 decades of EU membership prior to June 2016 have proven this. Along with people who didn't want to discuss these problems, so shouted down any debate with cries of waaaaaycist. The same people who since June 2016 have suddenly started pretending to give a toss for some strange reason.

Can you put that into context with the 3 decades prior to June 2016 please? Brexit has highlighted the folly and blind stupidity, over decades, whilst being part of an economic union. The first step to fixing something is accepting there is a problem in the first place. Brexit has proven to be that first necessary step.

It is up to us and our governments now. Pre Brexit the likes of you wouldn't have given a toss about Mr White and his company, nor the importance of such industry. Now you are all over it. It's great to see.

They also want to see more children encouraged to study sciences at school, to help increase the number of qualified potential employees, and highlighting the importance of the sector. The report - entitled UK Semiconductor Challenges and Solutions - also calls for the government to release its long-awaited national semiconductor strategy. This has now been two-years in the making. The IOP's director of science, innovation and skills, Louis Barson, said the UK cannot simply rely on importing the microchips it needs. He said: "We need a strong homegrown semiconductor industry, and that is critical to our economic security and physical security." Great news, just the kind of thing I expected Brexit to deliver. A new focus on the importance to an economy of manufacturing, of investing in critical industries and in STEM education. Tick, tick, tick.

It was more than a holiday, it was 4 months!

FoM massively reduced worker power in Britain and many were just happy to try and keep a job. No one wanted to be seen as an agitator.

Absolutely. But what you need to remember is these people don't really give a toss about them, it is just a massive virtue signaling opportunity for them. Virtue signaling is both free and effortless whilst others suffer and pick up the tab.

It's absolutely horrible and a waaaaycist hellhole if you believe the ultra rejoiners. Which makes it even more baffling why foreigners would take such risks to end up here.

It feels like we have have lost any sense of collective cohesion and unity these days and are just so fragmented as communities etc now. People for various reasons are no longer willing to put their heads above the parapet, even for things which might help them as well, in any meaningful enough numbers. We will tsk and roll our eyes, but ultimately just take it, whatever it is.

I'm not trying to justify anything, I don't give a toss about your opinion either way. It was actually meant as a mildly sarcastic comment. And I was commending the Poles on their enterprise.

It would have been much better if a box hadn't needed ticking in the first place. The reason a box did need ticking is because supporters of worker exploitation wanted it to continue subsidising their lifestyles so they could afford to go swanning off around a political union, so shut down any sensible debate on the issue by shouting waaaaycist at anyone trying to bring it to the table. The Polish seem happy with the arrangement and I use the tax money saved to buy more expensive produce from farm shops. Unfortunately it will be a while until I get chance to go visiting again, so it's not exactly a habit (unlike my smoking).

I don't live in South America, I live in England. Unlike that clown Gordon, I don't claim to be the saviour of the world. One of the ways to help stop/expose the exploitation of workers was to end FoM, which meant voting leave. Those who voted in favour of keeping it (remainers) were voting for the opposite. Those who want it back (rejoiners) want more of it.

It's possible to do both. Although Blackpool was a serious disappointment last time I went there.

Yep, like I say, I don't mind paying more. And was still able to afford that trip too.