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  1. I couldn't find any news on an outbreak occurring in a school since reopening, or linked to a school (such as a parent passing it to the teacher through a child). Given the panic and the hysteria, and the politics around this, you would have expected the Guardian/Mirror to leap on this story if it had occurred, as a reason to beat the government. Italy, Spain, France and Germany managed to reopen without a spike in cases. Yes, there may be regional clusters, but if they can be controlled reopening can be done safely.
  2. People predicted a spike after Easter VE Day Warm weather on the beaches Schools reopening Protests Nothing has been seen, and cases have kept going down. Maybe they would have gone down quicker otherwise, but they have still been going down.
  3. There just isn't the money available (aside from printing it). People seem to think that they will get £1000+ per month. I calculated earlier in the thread that if all benefits (including the state pension) were removed and reallocated equally, people would get £87 per week, or £111 per week if under 18s were excluded. Nowhere near close enough to live off and carry out a life of painting or basket weaving like people seem to want. And once these small sums are mentioned, people then want to include extra amounts for the elderly or disabled, which defeats one of the main arguments of a UBI. The main problem is that benefits and wages are now so close together, a UBI looks feasible to some people. Shazza Sixkids doing her sixteen hours a week nail bar at home (topped up by tax credits of course) is seem as a good argument for why a UBI would work - funded by the state predominantly, yet topping up her money through earnings.
  4. You'll have them being sold for 50p in the pound outside of Tesco.
  5. Interesting about the lead time for the antibody test. So logically, even more people could have antibodies by now, as the people who caught it in April and May develop them? As you say, the more people who are immune, the fewer chances the virus has to spread. I would like to think that as countries reopen there would be less spreading than before as people take more precautions, such as hand washing and mask wearing. Nothing is a miracle solution, but spread over the entire population it should reduce the spread.
  6. Perhaps there is already some form of herd immunity in London and New York for the people who continued working. Going back to May, there were news reports that 17% of Londoners had antibodies, and presumably it is a little higher now. I'm assuming a large number of the 17% are those who were still interacting as normal during the lockdown. So if you consider the "unlocked-down" as their own population (30% of the total London population?), freely mixing with each other, it isn't a huge jump to there being a limited herd immunity. To summarize, perhaps enough healthcare workers, supermarket workers and bus drivers have had it to mean that as a combined group there may be herd immunity. So as and when London reopens, and the "locked-down" start to interact more normally, presumably there will be a dilution of the herd immunity, and cases would rise again. However, some effects may remain to slow the spread of the disease if 20% or so of the population are immune. What does this mean? I am no virologist. But as it stands, those countries/regions that had a "controlled first wave" like Italy, Spain and New York seem to be faring better than those who locked down "pre first wave". Perhaps having a 20% immunity rate (in conjunction with social distancing, hand washing and other precautions) is enough to slow the cases to a trickle.
  7. Exactly. In the age of Trump and social media it just isn't shocking now. SBC leading on a redneck is nothing.
  8. Nope, the similarity between the logo and a generic ClipArt logo from the Windows 95 era would be pointed out the next day, but we would be assured that it was very different, it had very deep meaning and symbolism, a lot of effort went into it, and was completely worth the £5billion. Then it would be forgotten about.
  9. £5billion will barely get the logo designed and letterheads printed.
  10. On my local area Facebook group (close to downtown Chicago) people are upset that even though their houses/apartments are being listed for lower prices than 3 years ago (with the obligatory comments on "how much we've spent upgrading it") they aren't selling, or are receiving much lower offers than asking. A combination of job losses, inner city riots, and 3.5 months and counting of being stuck in a shoebox with your laptop on the kitchen table (whilst your friends on Facebook are posting pictures of drinks and barbecues in spacious backyards, and their home office setups) mean that the "downtown lifestyle" isn't what it used to be. Although I must admit that I own a one bedroom apartment in London, so it isn't all good news for me!
  11. Redneck american is shockingly tricked into saying something racist. Wash, rinse, repeat.
  12. Maybe I'm just getting older, or SBC is getting tired, or the world has just changed too much, but I just don't find his antics that funny or shocking anymore. It sounded like at most a dozen people were singing along at a sparsely attended rally. Hidden camera/fake shock interviews really should have died out with the Blair era.
  13. They were selling mail order prefab homes well over 100 years ago. Apparently it saved the customer 30-40% over traditional building methods.
  14. Sounds like the wake up call for tradespeople when the Eastern European countries joined the EU.
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