Willy Weasel Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 (edited) EDIT: Guilty of trying to reinvent the wheel with original post. Here's a very useful leaflet with a comprehensive explanation of tenant's rights. http://www.communities.gov.uk/embedded_object.asp?id=1151919 Edited June 10, 2007 by Tuffers Quote
Willy Weasel Posted June 10, 2007 Author Posted June 10, 2007 Having re-read my original post it wasn't as clear or helpful as I'd intended. Original post amended. Quote
Jason Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 Many thanks Tuffers, saved to my PC if I ever need to refer to it! Quote
Plastic Elastic Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 EDIT: Guilty of trying to reinvent the wheel with original post. Here's a very useful leaflet with a comprehensive explanation of tenant's rights.http://www.communities.gov.uk/embedded_object.asp?id=1151919 Very useful! Many thanks, Tuffers!!! Quote
Guest casaloco Posted June 10, 2007 Posted June 10, 2007 Tuffers, Are you a solicitor? Any chance of any help with squatnow.com??? In terms of legal advice for squaters/squatting. Idea is to get people to start squatting in the millions ofempty BTL poperties...? casa the anarchist Quote
christhpc Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Nice find Tuffers. Of particular interest is section 7 - about rent increases: 7.8 How does the rent assessment committee decide on a rent for acontractual periodic or statutory periodic tenancy? When settling disputes on rent, the committee decides what rent the landlord could reasonably expect for the property if he or she was letting it on the open market under a new tenancy on the same terms. It does not take into account any increase in the value of the property due to voluntary improvements by you. The committee may agree the proposed rent or set a higher or lower rent. The rent fixed by the committee is the legal maximum the landlord can charge. The new rent will be payable from the date specified in the landlord�fs notice unless the committee considers this would cause you undue hardship in which case it may specify a later date. 7.9 Can the landlord propose a further rent increase after the committeehas made a decision? The landlord can propose that the rent is increased a year after the date on which the rent decided by the committee was payable (but see Appendix E), unless you agree that he or she can put it up earlier. You must apply to a rent assessment committee to decide what the rent should be if you do not agree with the proposed increase. 7.10 What additional rights do shorthold tenants have to apply to a rentassessment committee for a decision on the rent? If you are a shorthold tenant, you can also apply to a rent assessment committee at the beginning of the tenancy for a decision on the rent if you consider the rent to be significantly higher than the rent for comparable tenancies. The Housing Act 1996 made important changes to the deadline for applications. Blimey!! Quote
Willy Weasel Posted June 11, 2007 Author Posted June 11, 2007 Tuffers,Are you a solicitor? Any chance of any help with squatnow.com??? In terms of legal advice for squaters/squatting. Idea is to get people to start squatting in the millions ofempty BTL poperties...? casa the anarchist Yes, although I deal with commercial rather than residential property. The issue of squatting is very interesting because there is some debate currently about whether the whole concept of adverse possession (legal language for squatting) is contrary to the owner's human rights as it deprives them of property. Quote
Guest casaloco Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Yes, although I deal with commercial rather than residential property. The issue of squatting is very interesting because there is some debate currently about whether the whole concept of adverse possession (legal language for squatting) is contrary to the owner's human rights as it deprives them of property. Tuffers, May I call on you to vet any advice that will be given on squatnow.com??? Some things are obviously illeagle, but it would be nice to get a little clarification on the blurry bits...! Quote
@contradevian Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Yes, although I deal with commercial rather than residential property. The issue of squatting is very interesting because there is some debate currently about whether the whole concept of adverse possession (legal language for squatting) is contrary to the owner's human rights as it deprives them of property. Surely both sides could deploy that argument? And in any case if the landlord doesn't live there, he is not being deprived of a property (or at least a roof over his head). Quote
Willy Weasel Posted June 11, 2007 Author Posted June 11, 2007 Tuffers,May I call on you to vet any advice that will be given on squatnow.com??? Some things are obviously illeagle, but it would be nice to get a little clarification on the blurry bits...! Feel free to PM me Quote
Guest casaloco Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Surely both sides could deploy that argument? And in any case if the landlord doesn't live there, he is not being deprived of a property (or at least a roof over his head). Would lead to some intersting arguments as to whether landlord has deprived the now squatter of a place to live by buying up the available housing and pushing up prices. I can't see ANY landlord trying an argument along the lines of human rights/deprved of property as it opens a huge can of worms that would be more likely to harm them than the squatter. i.e. without a house you can't have a family, which deprived you of your human right to have a family life, and your human right to have a home.... the landlord is effectively withholding these things from you and demanding payment for them... very shakey ground few landlords would like to walk on. If they get a judge who's also a landlord they'll win... if the the judge ISN'T a landlord then they have a good chance of losing. Quote
MRMX9 Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 I expect the German and French equivalents (where Tenants actually have rights!) are probably five times longer! Quote
southsea13 Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Would lead to some intersting arguments as to whether landlord has deprived the now squatter of a place to live by buying up the available housing and pushing up prices.I can't see ANY landlord trying an argument along the lines of human rights/deprved of property as it opens a huge can of worms that would be more likely to harm them than the squatter. i.e. without a house you can't have a family, which deprived you of your human right to have a family life, and your human right to have a home.... the landlord is effectively withholding these things from you and demanding payment for them... very shakey ground few landlords would like to walk on. If they get a judge who's also a landlord they'll win... if the the judge ISN'T a landlord then they have a good chance of losing. Good argument, but - and I know this is crazy - you can have a family without a home. Granted it`ll be in poverty, homeless etc, but a family nonetheless. (Anyone got a spare cardboard box? I`m saving up for one of those pukka 8`x8` properties!) Quote
Fergie Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 you can have a family without a home. Granted it`ll be in poverty, homeless etc, but a family nonetheless. (Anyone got a spare cardboard box? I`m saving up for one of those pukka 8`x8` properties!) That might be another thing to try. If squatting doesn't work, and people are kicked out quicky. A pile of folk turning up in some of the luxury, executive, new-build estates with cardboard boxes, tents and old caravans/campervans and simply setting up camp in the green spaces. That would be far harder to fight against. Quote
Guest casaloco Posted June 11, 2007 Posted June 11, 2007 Or just go down during the night to the building site and "re-arrange" some bricks. Or just burn down the completed flats. Quote
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