Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 If you wanted to drink bleach - then yes you achieved your goals. Democracy only fails when people lose their right for democracy. The results of democracy are irrelevant. Please answer my question and tell me what constitutes a 'failure' or 'doesnt work' of democracy? What's the aim of democracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhpcza Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Sure, coke is less poisonous than bleach. So, instead of dropping dead in minutes, you drop dead in early middle age, after a battle with diabetes and obesity. You still ain't healthy and you still die early. Not necessarily. Plenty of people will have an unhealthy diet, or smoke 20 a day and live for a very long time. Of course, it's not the best choice and you don't do yourself any favours, but it happens. On we limp. The same as the state may or may not do. Bad choices don't equal an early death for sure, they only increase the chances. But there are no guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 What's the aim of democracy? I'm no wordmeisiter - but In my broadest interpretation - the people have the say on who decides futures events. This is basis of equality. Whatever the future brings to us - we all had our say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I'm no wordmeisiter - but In my broadest interpretation - the people have the say on who decides futures events. This is basis of equality. Whatever the future brings to us - we all had our say. Over what time frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 What's the aim of democracy? the illusion of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 Over what time frame? Details. You wouldn't subscribe and empower if you didn't accept the time frame, non? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Details. You wouldn't subscribe and empower if you didn't accept the time frame, non? Well if you aren't bothered about timeframes or eventual outcomes when you make a decision, the next time you feel thirsty, drink bleach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scepticus Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 That looks like a sceppy paint-by-numbers monetary system....... *soz scep* how very dare you!!! only the finest handcrafted monetary systems, since 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) the illusion of choice Rubbish. how many parties were seeking election in this election? Why do you dismiss the choices of your fellow man.....do you see yourself as a cut above? Born-to-elect maybe? Edited May 7, 2010 by Alan B'Stard MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 how very dare you!!! only the finest handcrafted monetary systems, since 2009. Sorry scep - I really meant Spaniard - but I know he is very touchy about it. I think his ideals has meleded with his personality - and I really wouldnt want to piss in his snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Well if you aren't bothered about timeframes or eventual outcomes when you make a decision, the next time you feel thirsty, drink bleach. I will do - and that is the essence of democracy. I noticed you cannot refute the freeman purposefully ticking his box - because HE WANTED TO... ..however misguided.... Edited May 7, 2010 by Alan B'Stard MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhpcza Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Well if you aren't bothered about timeframes or eventual outcomes when you make a decision, the next time you feel thirsty, drink bleach. No, just drink coke, or guinness. Not the healthiest, but you're ok with it and you may live to be 100 anyway. Or maybe you get hit by a bus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 I will do - and that is the essence of democracy. I noticed you cannot refute the freeman purposefully ticking his box - because HE WANTED TO... ..however misguided.... Of course I can refute the free vote, isn't even hard. Spooner did it hundreds of years ago, comprehensively. But you knew that, right? (Can you youtube the bleach thing?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 No, just drink coke, or guinness. Not the healthiest, but you're ok with it and you may live to be 100 anyway. Or maybe you get hit by a bus... Yeah, but you aren't drinking it as part of some balanced diet, you are ONLY drinking coke or guiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Of course I can refute the free vote, isn't even hard. [ More arrogance. You can refute people, who of their free-will, are queuing up to vote for who they want to govern them? Please explain yourself. Edited May 7, 2010 by Alan B'Stard MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) More arrogance. You can refute people of their free-will queuing up to vote for who they want to govern them? Please explain yourself. They queue up to vote for who they want to govern themselves and others. They have no such moral right. Edited May 7, 2010 by Injin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrentyieldmakessense(honest!) Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Rubbish. how many parties were seeking election in this election? Why do you dismiss the choices of your fellow man.....do you see yourself as a cut above? Born-to-elect maybe? I dont see myself above anyone what about those that dont wish to be ruled by others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 They queue up to vote for who they want to govern themselves and others. They have no such moral right. Anyone who votes accepts their MP might not win a seat and they succumb to this result. This is democracy. What is your problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 I dont see myself above anyone what about those that dont wish to be ruled by others How do you know them? Are they branded on the forehead? Who are these people of whom you speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Anyone who votes accepts their MP might not win a seat and they succumb to this result. This is democracy. What is your problem? No one has any moral right to coerce others. Voting doesn't change that one jot. What's your problem with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 No one has any moral right to coerce others. Voting doesn't change that one jot. What's your problem with this? Why participate in a vote if you are not expecting to be abide by the results of that process - not matter how irksome. I'm not seeing a lot of rioting in St Peter Sq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Why participate in a vote if you are not expecting to be abide by the results of that process - not matter how irksome. People who arent part of the process or who do not vote are also coerced, so this doesn't work. I'm not seeing a lot of rioting in St Peter Sq. So you are only coerced if you fight back? I bet that would go down gangbuster at rape trials. Edited May 7, 2010 by Injin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 People who arent part of the process or who do not vote are also coerced, so this doesn't work. So you are only coerced if you fight back? I bet that would go down gangbuster at rape trials. Yes I misread your post. People who don't participate and have no wish to participate are most definitely coerced to accept the outcomes. But hey - shit happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yes I misread your post. People who don't participate and have no wish to participate are most definitely coerced to accept the outcomes. But hey - shit happens. Sure. I dont mind you saying you like while admitting it's evil. Fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan B'Stard MP Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 Sure. I dont mind you saying you like while admitting it's evil. Fine by me. Such is life. Anyone who thinks you can eradicate injustice is a smidgeon of a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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