asdfgh9 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Does anyone know what the house price derivatives market is indicating for uk house prices over the next few years? Better still does anyone know where i can acess prices from this market? Are prices acessible to regular individuals or only to big hedge funds? The only market i can acess is the ig index house price market which is pretty unsatisfactory - a large spread and very short term cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Buttafueco Jr Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 http://www.sprefs.com/index.php?page_id=169 Within ~10% of the bottom according to latest numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomWalk Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 (edited) TFS Gets updated every 2/3 months. Edit: Noel's link is referring to the same data, but seems to be updated monthly. Edited June 22, 2009 by RandomWalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm419 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 http://www.sprefs.com/index.php?page_id=169Within ~10% of the bottom according to latest numbers That May newsletter. isn't it more like 20% to go for residential? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Buttafueco Jr Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 That May newsletter. isn't it more like 20% to go for residential? I'm looking at what the brokers are publishing as of last close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 http://www.sprefs.com/index.php?page_id=169Within ~10% of the bottom according to latest numbers Yes and these traders are so good at predicting whats happening with the diravatives market and you can take that what way you want but i think you know what i'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Buttafueco Jr Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 but i think you know what i'm saying. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdfgh9 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 No cheers guys, to me this is extremely strong evidence that house prices will fall further. It's all very well that some experts believe that maybe house prices are now stable but if they're not willing to put their money where their mouth is then it's difficult to respect their judgement too much. I'm not saying these derivative markets will be perfect indicators but they've got to be about the best guide to future house prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdfgh9 Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 one more thing, do people think these derivative prices are skewed due to institutions hedging against the value of large property portfolios that they own? Ie do you think the market is skewed since there are a lot more people wanting to go short on future prices than people wanting to go long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Interesting stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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