Quiet Guy
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22 hours ago, DarkHorseWaits-NoMore said:
See what this twit posted in the Covid thread: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths gripping Britain is only tip of the iceberg:
A post about climate change action, which was then randomly interlaced with personal hate speech attacks on forum members like this:
You are in danger of becoming the very kind of fascist you claim to be opposing (how ever fictitious the reality distortion is). I am English with a differing opinion, you sad little shit!
Weird and creepy.
If he's saying things like this now, expect a meltdown when the realities of the conflict become impossible to ignore ... -
32 minutes ago, Up the spout said:
Oh, so you're also one of those ...
Can I support Digger's right to a different opinion without becoming him?
We may disagree sometimes but the implied insults don't achieve anything.
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1 minute ago, Up the spout said:
You mean he believes the sh*t he makes up? I suppose someone has to.
In this case, I'd say he geniuinely believes that winding the conflict down by negotiation is the least worst option.
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9 hours ago, dugsbody said:
The science is settled. The problem is, the cranks don't want to believe the truth because they're cranks.
And there's the problem. You're treating science like a religion.
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4 hours ago, Up the spout said:
No rebuttal or anything further from @DiggerUK on this - got found out and then went silent.
I wonder how many other times they've been caught lying on here, and just moved on to the next propaganda and disinformation?
Diggers been around this forum for ages. I don't think he'a liar - he just has a different opinion from some here.
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39 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:
Oh dear somebody has made the same mistake lots of YT and deniers made on this one.
Jorgen Peder Steffensen is not disuting or refuting current science, he is in fact backing it up
Let me pick apart your samizdata bit as evidently they are not versed in science.
1st the video is from 20 years ago so that would be 2000. The interview was actually in the 90s.
The graph is a geological graph and so 0 is 1950. A lot of people got excited as they don't know how to read his graph... the target audience can.
Stefenssen has said what is happening now to the climate is like when financial institutions pumped bad loans into the financial system... he said that a few years ago not 1990 which is why its weird deniers got so excited as he's never once denied man made climate change.
Thanks for the correction. You're right - I did not know about the missing bit at the right hand of the graph.
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29 minutes ago, pig said:
I posted this a bit earlier:
https://www.samizdata.net/2023/05/climate-change-story-told-by-ice-cores/
If you use a different scale, the trend may look a bit different.
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2 hours ago, Staffsknot said:
there's more money in denying climate change
Really? Where do I sign? Seriously, considering the enormous political power yielded by the climate change movement, it should be no surpise that there's scepticism. Here's a take from the founder of Greenpeace:
"Moore left Greenpeace in 1986, 15 years after he co-founded the organization.
“The ‘environmental’ movement has become more of a political movement than an environmental movement,” he said. “They are primarily focused on creating narratives, stories, that are designed to instill fear and guilt into the public so the public will send them money.”
He said they mainly operate behind closed doors with other political operatives at the U.N., World Economic Forum, and so on, all of which are primarily political in nature."
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49 minutes ago, dugsbody said:
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I genuinely wish I could meet you and all the other contrarians/cranks on this site in a pub somewhere. It would be so interesting matching the personalities to faces, trying to understand your world view in person. What is it that makes a certain personality type so drawn to contrarian views. Talk over a beer is so much more interesting than just laughing at silliness over a keyboard.
Surprise, surprise. Poeple don't like being talked down to. It's not hard to find practical and theoretical problems with the global warming narrative.
https://www.samizdata.net/2023/05/climate-change-story-told-by-ice-cores/
https://climatechangedispatch.com/97-percent-consensus-climate-myth/
Everybody who questions things must be a crank ... Ironically, global warming zealots have made it almost impossible to have an honest, constructive conversation.
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Zeihan comments on the effects of the recent Kerch Strait Bridge attack. At the end, talking about the prospects for an attack in the South:
We haven't seen a lot of over movement on the front so far. We certainly haven't seen the Ukrainians achieve breakthrough, but if they can't do it in these circumstances, it's probably not gonna happen. So, watch Ukraine closely ...
Are we approaching a crux ?
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1 hour ago, 70PC said:
You disregarded content which looks credible.
OK, we'l just have to disagree about that ( I presume you're referring to the mortar video. )
1 hour ago, 70PC said:I am not Ukrainian so this is not jingoism.
You don't have to be Ukrainian to enthusiastically support a war to damage Russia.
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1 hour ago, jonb2 said:
You're talking about Britain. I was answering someone who was talking about the USA.
So again.
I was talking about the USA. You are talking about Britain.
Got it?
FFS, you were talking about the USA over 70 years ago 🤔 I was talking about today. Today's UK because I'm a UK citizen. Got it?
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1 hour ago, 70PC said:
More on the subject but I don't take everything as read. There are many parties with their own agendas ...
+1 👍
There's too much simplistic jingoism from some here.
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2 hours ago, jonb2 said:
You don't need to worry your pretty little head about this.
"Two years earlier, America’s military preparedness was not that of a nation expecting to go to war. In 1939, the United States Army ranked thirty-ninth in the world, possessing a cavalry force of fifty thousand and using horses to pull the artillery. Many Americans — still trying to recover from the decade-long ordeal of the Great Depression — were reluctant to participate in the conflict that was spreading throughout Europe and Asia. President Roosevelt did what he could to coax a reluctant nation to focus its economic might on military preparedness. If the American military wasn’t yet equal to the Germans or the Japanese, American workers could build ships and planes faster than the enemy could sink them or shoot them down.
In the wake of Pearl Harbor, the president set staggering goals for the nation’s factories: 60,000 aircraft in 1942 and 125,000 in 1943; 120,000 tanks in the same time period and 55,000 antiaircraft guns. In an attempt to coordinate government war agencies Roosevelt created the War Production Board in 1942 and later in 1943 the Office of War Mobilization. To raise money for defense, the government relied on a number of techniques — calling on the American people to ration certain commodities, generating more tax revenue by lowering the personal exemption and selling government war bonds to individuals and financial institutions. All of these methods served to provide the government with revenue and at the same time keep inflation under control.
In the three years following the Battle of Midway, the Japanese built six aircraft carriers. The U.S. built 17. American industry provided almost two-thirds of all the Allied military equipment produced during the war: 297,000 aircraft, 193,000 artillery pieces, 86,000 tanks and two million army trucks. In four years, American industrial production, already the world's largest, doubled in size."
War Production | The War | Ken Burns | PBS
https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-war/war-productionYou're using the situation at the begininning of World War II to diagnose today's conflict.
Earlier this year, the British Government came in for criticism from the Parliamentary defence committee for allowing Britian’s weapons stocks to dwindle. The committee said in its March report that it would take a decade to rebuild weapon stocks to acceptable levels and urged the MoD to rapidly expand industrial capacity to speed the rebuilding process.
Insated of saying "don't need to worry your pretty little head", maybe we could have a think about what sort of military we we want and how much we're willing to pay for it?
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5 hours ago, 70PC said:
Some dickheads playing silly buggers with a mortar is not an argument. That looks staged to me.
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18 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:
Maj Gen Popov was sacked by Russian military for revealing to superiors + Duma that the Russians were failing in the artillery war.
Paraphrasing his complaints:
- the counterbattery fire is short on numbers
- the artillery is inaccurate and poorly coordinated
- the reconnaisance is poor
- Ukraine are winning this area of the conflict.
He should know he was in charge of Southern Command of Russian army
There's been spates of reports of subordinates criticising the conduct of war and chiefs of staff.
Ranges from reports of aircraft hitting own positions, poor artillery or pullbacks leaving groups of troops dangling as not told.
Thanks. Interesting point of view.
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8 minutes ago, Up the spout said:
Y'know, there are loads of websites that'll counter your BS but I can't be bothered to link them.
Great. Bring it on. I'd love to to be wrong about this.
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3 hours ago, Up the spout said:
Who's out of ammo again?
Concerns about the mismatch between Russia and Ukraine's artillery capacity are not new.
https://www.vox.com/2023/6/6/23744349/ukraine-artillery-counteroffensive-united-states-europe
Like it or not, the Ukrainian artillery is outgunned and that probably won't change soon.
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13 hours ago, pig said:
What a weird response.
Ukrainian 'victory' is now and future safety from Russian genociders. That means end of all wars.
Its not that difficult to understand. The difficulty is in delivering it.
Well, that's noble but leaves me wondering where we're going. There are entities in the West that seem to be determined to keep this conflict going.
13 hours ago, pig said:What is your solution ?
No idea which I why I asked about criteria for victory.
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19 minutes ago, Up the spout said:
Go f**k yourself
Thanks for that.
Graceful and persuasive 😄
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1 hour ago, pig said:
Well yes if you support Putins historical fantasy that Ukraine is somehow not a real country then you support annexing chunks of it every few years until its completely under Russian control.
Start by constructing a steaming BS straw man ...
2 hours ago, pig said:If you don’t then victory for Ukraine is peace and freedom from Russian genocidal/imperial fantasies.
So the only criteria for victory you are discussing is your opinion on Russia's state of mind.
Endless war.
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1 hour ago, Up the spout said:
A harem full of ruzzian widows, and a torture chamber full of ruzzian males. Gas chamber for them both after they've fulfilled their potential.
OK. Just let us know when you want to get serious about about a conflict that has killed/injured hundreds of thousands and displaced millions.
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7 minutes ago, Up the spout said:
Yep.
Great! What the criteria for the Ukrainian victory you expect?
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11 minutes ago, pig said:
Well that’s easy: Ukraine still existing in 10 years time and no further Russian invasions.
Sorry, that doesn't cut it for me. Roughly speaking, Russia has annexed four Oblasts:
Hopefully, we all agree that Ukraine still exists? By your logic, all Ukraine needs to do is stop further annexations. But I doubt that's what you meant, otherwise Ukraine could negotiate a ceasefire now and declare victory.
Will Russia invade Ukraine and what happens if it escalates with NATO/US getting involved
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Some recent commentary from Spiegel:
https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/stalled-at-the-front-lack-of-western-weapons-contributes-to-slow-progress-in-ukraine-counteroffensive-a-6c8cc665-44cb-41f0-89df-ca4ecee9a16e
As I understand it, this is basically the opposite of what NATO "Manoeuvrist" doctrine promotes - avoid getting into prolonged attritional fights. Without new ideas, this could just grind on and on ...