petetong
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9 minutes ago, Lagarde's Drift said:
People who listen to him have no idea what "third" or "developing" world actually means.
I suppose it depends if you take things literally, like you do 😉
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6 minutes ago, Nick Cash said:
Probably more 3rd world (horrible label) areas in the SE than outside. P Hitchens esq obvious wind up merchant who knows f. all.
His main point was they've hollowed out heavy industry in the 70/80's, supposedly replaced with a service sector much of which has been outsourced etc, so what's left ? He has a point in that regard.
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11 minutes ago, fellow said:
Now you've gone brain dead. He obviously got a hefty discount just before closing time. They do that to get rid of the remaining stock rather than throwing the it in the bin.
Great if you like toenails and asshole as I said. I suppose it's protein at the end of the day with added fibre ...
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20 minutes ago, The Angry Capitalist said:
Now we know why he is brain dead.
All those chemicals and additives in Subway sandwiches.
Any sandwich that costs £2 in today's currency is not from field ingredients.
More like lab grown materials funded by the WEF. 🤣
Even my local SPAR is charging £4.60 for a hot cheese toasty.
Country is finished lol.
Yep you'd think he'd realise a foot long sub for £2 isn't going to be waygu steak in this day and age.. 🤣
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28 minutes ago, Casual-observer said:
You missed the general point.
I don't trust any of the UK ruling establishment to be at all competent to run a bath...let alone competently gather, operate nor logistically support this conscript army. That's not withstanding they somehow miraculously turn around our heavily indebted service industry economy and turn it into some sort of war time powerhouse.
We can barely support the Ukraine army, I'd sooner defect than be led by titans like Boris, Sunak or Starmer.
Many on here appear to be under the misapprehension that the UK is a world power with superb military and world class economy. To quote Peter Hitchens who recently said on TheTimes Radio show: "outside the south east the UK is a third world country with sleet". 😆
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3 hours ago, pig said:
Tories still think covering the National Fronts Greatest Shits will deliver electoral success ?
5 reasons why Sunak’s ‘British homes for British workers’ social housing plan is doomed to fail
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/rishi-sunak-social-housing-plan-migrant-crisis
"In October 2023, The Sunday Times reported that Muhammad Qassem Sawalha, a Hamas fugitive, lives in a London council property he recently bought with a £112,000 discount.
Sawalha, who is officially designated as a member of Hamas by Israel’s defence ministry, fled to the UK in the 1990s and later obtained British citizenship before moving into a council house."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/27/terrorists-money-launderers-trespassers-social-housing/
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3 hours ago, Stewy said:
Just had a footlong Subway...£2.04...don't know why it was so Cheap ✓✓
I see you like eating assholes and toenails ... 🤣
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27 minutes ago, Stewy said:
It'll still be extremely Cheap and exceptional value. 👌
Yeah that's why so many are using food banks ...
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48 minutes ago, A.steve said:
Conscription: "Compulsory enrolment of persons, especially for military service."
What makes you think that conscription would afford you such an option?
Do you think you might be compulsorily enrolled - then asked for your opinion about whether you want to fight or not? Do you mean that you'd refuse to cooperate - no matter what the consequences from taking such a position?
What would they do if they refused to be conscripted ? At worse you get time in prison I suppose, better than being potentially killed I'd say. If they did try and bring conscription in the UK I think we'd really see the state of the nation and I think a lot of people will be in for a shock .. 😆
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12 minutes ago, NoHPCinTheUK said:
Labour got half of the vote in Cambridge in 2019. I am sure they will support with enthusiasm new social houses being build in their constituency.
Oh yes they definitely will ... 🤣
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Perhaps they are worried Trump will actually follow through with previously stated aim and withdraw the US from NATO. That would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons 🤣 Even then I can't see conscription happening in the UK, there would be protests galore etc.
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2 hours ago, Stewy said:
In a wartime economy debt is pretty much irrelevant...it's all about male productivity...and real things...not fiat.
But it's ok, we're not going to war. Just a continuation of our Happy Wealthy Living ✓✓
29th in the world for GDP per capita is not happy wealthy living 🤣
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On 25/01/2024 at 00:48, Stewy said:
"Company boss wants excuse to put prices up" shock 😆
What will that do to gas prices and inflation in europe/uk ?
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1 hour ago, jiltedjen said:
China is past its peak demographically. shrinking population and rapidly aging population is starting to kick in.
one child policy doomed it, should of been scrapped a decade or two earlier than it was.
their last hurrah was its own housing bubble, each young buyer being the sole grandchild of 4 sets of grandparents. They used their housing bubble to stoke internal demand after the west suffered from the 2008 crisis.
The west even benefitted from chinas internal demand, both in construction equipment and in the money feeding back via big ticket goods being sold to high wealth Chinese buyers, including our biggest export - houses/flats.
So China is having a bust, and America is on the cusp of its own tech bubble and car market bust also.
we could be in for decade long bust now, a huge contraction.
Perhaps we do just need a big war? incredible way to create demand, and winner takes all? Debts can be written off etc.
A big war would be nuclear most likely, no it just needs to go bust...
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42 minutes ago, Dopamine said:
Absolutely true. Something you’d expect a politician to understand in anything approaching a functional democracy.
They understand it but pumping the housing ponzi allows them to profit on an individual level, just look BTL Hunt, property empire Blair etc and a large percentage of MP's are landlords. Exactly the same as what happened with Covid, lots of Tories including the PM's family got tax payer cash or PPE contracts etc.
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38 minutes ago, cdd said:
An insane pandemic born ultra low rates, mass money printing, easy money house price boom, followed by much higher interest rates and in the early stages of a much needed correction.
The way forward? 1% deposit mortgages. Not hard to see why this will end badly. I'll be surprised if they actually go through with it though.
I'd say it's almost guaranteed to happen given they've already stated they are going to help first time buyers ...
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5 hours ago, Bruce Banner said:
A fine pair of berkshire hunts ....
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30 minutes ago, Housepricecrash91 said:
Despite all the stories about massive wage growth in this country.... I'm really not seeing it at mid to senior level.... It seems to be mostly at the bottom level where minimum wage has basically doubled in 10 years.
If you are mid-senior level in an organisation salaries just haven't increased much at all since I started work 10 years ago... Kind of crazy really! I literally have recruiters asking me to come work for their companies for like £35k-£45k in London, with promises of uncapped bonuses and OTEs. Obviously I laughed in their faces.
It's just not looking good at all for the working person in this country.
BTW, the above is based on London. Is it the same all around the UK? or have wages gone up enough to maintain a good standard of living elsewhere?
There was a piece on BBC News on Friday celebrating the fall in the inflation, despite last months increase, saying the government doesn't have to worry about wage inflation impacting inflation figures going forward as the short period of wage increases is over.
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3 hours ago, The Angry Capitalist said:
From the Youtube comments on that video they are easy to steal and around 90 every day are getting stolen in London alone.
Here's one of the comments I saw:
"90 range rover per day being stolen in London, they are now uninsurable; in other counties, they are saying they won't insure it unless it is parked in your garage. Quote from Tom Hartley, car dealer: "The easiest car in the world to nick, and in fact you can't get one insured in London now, is a Range Rover. They won't insure it. A policeman told me when he came round to my house... 120 cars a day in Mayfair, South Kensington, Knightsbridge, Chelsea and Central get stolen. And 75 per cent of them are Range Rovers."
That would make premiums sky rocket.
It's also a funny story seeing all the London parasites getting their toys stolen in Mayfair etc.
Sounds as though London is collapsing just as I thought it would do.
Do they still end up in eastern europe, particularly Albania ?
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6 hours ago, Pmax2020 said:
Can’t argue with what you say.
My fear though is wage inflation, coupled with fake news about mortgage rates and energy costs coming down, will embolden another swathe of nutters to go big again this year.
I’m sticking to 5-10% falls this year, with some howlers in there for people that bought with stupid bids in recent years.
In the sold prices I looked at last week, there was a 40k loss on a 360k property that was only owned for 18 months. There will be plenty more of that…
Quite a few houses near me on sale which were bought in 2021 to 2023, vendors wanting anywhere between 30% to 100% more than they paid for it, e.g. a nothing special terrace in a decent area bought for £285k in 2023, now on market for £550k or semi again in a good area, bought for £320K in 2023, now on market for £400K.
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2 hours ago, Sackboii said:
Must have worked.. now says it’s SSTC !!
I am not surprised tbh. So much for any HPC.
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On 12/01/2024 at 23:58, Sour Mash said:
Do you remember life in the late 70s as part of a typical family with a working father and a housewife mother? I do.
We were one of the only families in the street to have a telephone. We used to get calls for the neighbours and I would run up a few doors to tell them a family member was calling them. Phone calls, even inside the UK, cost a small fortune and when my mum called long distance to family members she would carefully watch the clock. Pretty much all phones were the rotary grey dial phone unless you were posh and had a 'trimphone'.
Many fewer households had a car - and certainly only one car at most. Typically a low spec model with no modern luxuries like, oooh, electric windows, power steering, aircon, built in radio etc.
Our holidays consisted on driving to the seaside to stay in a caravan for a couple of weeks, and that was typical for most.
Flying anywhere - even domestically - was a rare thing and a major occasion.
Strikes and powercuts - pretty common.
We rented our (colour) TV as did most of our peers. At least we had a second set, more than most people did, a 12" black and white portable.
TV programming - 3 channels and restricted hours.
Luxuries were way fewer and further between. Certainly people weren't loaded down with gadgets etc.
Dishwashers - pretty much unheard of.
Washing machines - pretty crude.
Central heating - Coal fired, if you were lucky to have it. Many didn't. Insulation - what is that?
Double Glazing - what's that, fancy windows?
Owning a house -pretty much all of my peers were in social housing and actually owning your house was tough for the working class. One of the reasons Thatcher was so popular was because she kickstarted home ownership for the masses.
Clothes were more expensive - most people had one decent set of clothes for special occasions like Church, Weddings and Funerals. People would go to great lengths to sew/patch up clothes as they couldn't just go out and buy a replacement set of whatever because something was looking worn and tired. Getting new clothes was a major thing. A lot of hand-me-down clothes, not just for young kids.
Takeaways/fast food virtually unheard of. Maybe fish and chips every couple of weeks. Deliveries ??? Are you crazy?
Sweets and snacks.. only as actual treats.
.. the list goes on. Today we are flooded with cheap modern luxuries most of which were not even available in the part, and if they were they were beyond the means of most average people.
Living standards have VASTLY improved over the years. Even one of the legions of lifetime benefits claimants today lives a materially much better life than a normal single income family did back then.
But .. Is life any more fulfulling or enjoyable as a result? I would say definitely not. The state of modern society is just shocking. Breakdown of family, local community, religion and as of late, even state/nationhood is crumbling. It seems many people are confused as to what gender they are. Incredible poor antisocial standards of social behaviour now accepted as normal. Despite what would be considered by many today as borderline poverty our lives were much richer than the sort of empty existences that now seem common.
"Do you remember life in the late 70s as part of a typical family with a working father and a housewife mother? I do." - yes I do ...
"We were one of the only families in the street to have a telephone. We used to get calls for the neighbours and I would run up a few doors to tell them a family member was calling them. Phone calls, even inside the UK, cost a small fortune and when my mum called long distance to family members she would carefully watch the clock. Pretty much all phones were the rotary grey dial phone unless you were posh and had a 'trimphone'." - All my family were working class, they all had a telephone, and I don't remember penny pinching or neighbours using our telephone ...
"Many fewer households had a car - and certainly only one car at most. Typically a low spec model with no modern luxuries like, oooh, electric windows, power steering, aircon, built in radio etc." - Lived in a working class estate, pretty much every house had a car. They had a radio. I suppose if you consider electric windows, power steering a massive jump in the quality of life well ...
"Our holidays consisted on driving to the seaside to stay in a caravan for a couple of weeks, and that was typical for most." - yes that but also the odd holiday abroad.
"Flying anywhere - even domestically - was a rare thing and a major occasion." - agree, but again is flying abroad once or twice a year for a few weeks a year on some package holiday for most a massive increase in the quality of life ? Personally I don't think so.
"Strikes and powercuts - pretty common." - Not sure what your point, I remember few blackouts, the world carried on.
"We rented our (colour) TV as did most of our peers. At least we had a second set, more than most people did, a 12" black and white portable." - Yes so did we, so what ? One more than I have now.
"TV programming - 3 channels and restricted hours." - yeah my quality of life has increased massively by having endless dross I can watch ... oh look another reality program.
"Luxuries were way fewer and further between. Certainly people weren't loaded down with gadgets etc." - So having a mobile phone which allows work to harass you is a boon to our quality of life ? Are people really that impressed by gadgets ?
"Dishwashers - pretty much unheard of." - Yep, washing up caused so much unnecessary suffering, some still suffer even today ...
"Washing machines - pretty crude." - a washing machine is a washing machine ...
"Central heating - Coal fired, if you were lucky to have it. Many didn't. Insulation - what is that?" - we had gas central heating and loft insulation, on an estate built in the early 70s.
"Double Glazing - what's that, fancy windows?" - Hardly surprising given they didn't really appear till the 80's but I don't remember any great hardship with wooden windows, which today you pay a premium for.
"Owning a house -pretty much all of my peers were in social housing and actually owning your house was tough for the working class. One of the reasons Thatcher was so popular was because she kickstarted home ownership for the masses." - This one has to be a joke ... yeah owning your own house is easy peasy now aint it ?
"Clothes were more expensive - most people had one decent set of clothes for special occasions like Church, Weddings and Funerals. People would go to great lengths to sew/patch up clothes as they couldn't just go out and buy a replacement set of whatever because something was looking worn and tired. Getting new clothes was a major thing. A lot of hand-me-down clothes, not just for young kids." - clothes were of better quality then too, and lasted longer unlike the chinese produced junk we get now.
"Takeaways/fast food virtually unheard of. Maybe fish and chips every couple of weeks. Deliveries ??? Are you crazy?" - I remember getting fish & chips, KFC etc regular as kid in the 70's, as a working class family. Oh no, you had to get off your fat ass rather than get them delivered.
"Sweets and snacks.. only as actual treats." - nope, ten pence mix-ups were a weekly treat if not more ..
".. the list goes on. Today we are flooded with cheap modern luxuries most of which were not even available in the part, and if they were they were beyond the means of most average people." - most of what you listed are some small incremental changes, hardly massive world changing quality of life changes.
"Living standards have VASTLY improved over the years. Even one of the legions of lifetime benefits claimants today lives a materially much better life than a normal single income family did back then." - maybe for some if you count having more crap to watch on TV and get your fast food delivered. LOL, I'm not sure living on £80 a week plus housing benefit goes far these days ...
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I see you didn't actually answer the question, but whatever ..