Confusion of VIs
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2 minutes ago, kzb said:
I think world beating incompetence is a fair description ! But equally, bear in mind loads of "experts" would have looked at this policy, before release, and deemed it a vote winner...unless of course they are trying to lose the election. It's beginning to look like it.
Rumor is that it was dropped directly into the Manifesto by May's private office minutes before the print deadline. The papers couldn't find a cabinet minister who admitted to being consulted about its inclusion.
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25 minutes ago, billybong said:
Interesting that the Conservatives are yet again trying to push their old idea of competence in running the country, the economy and Brexit negotiations etc. They're so competent and every other party is so incompetent.
They talk a good talk and market a good talk but if the UK population should have learnt anything over the past few decades it's that the Conservatives have regularly demonstrated their capacity for outstanding and world beating incompetence just as pronounced as they try to claim for Labour.
I'm not a Labour supporter but fair's fair.
Theresa doesn't look so strong and stable today, a few days bad publicity and a complete cave in on the "dementia tax".
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3 hours ago, ccc said:
No way !! You used to work for the EU !?
And your future monetary income could be impacted by our brexit negotiations !!
Who ever would have guessed it !!
All the Brexit rational arguments have won. Have you not been reading this thread ?
Pension "envy" ? No.
Just staggered by the ludicrous numbers involved here. We all know the EU is a gravy train for all those jumping aboard. But this really takes the piss.
This is about the third time you have been surprised to find out I worked for the commission.
The negotiations will have no impact on my pension, apart from any exchange rate fluctuations.
What ludicrous numbers, pensions cost what they cost (the EU pension is pretty similar to the reformed civil service pension (actually worse for many staff as it pays out at 65, my civil service and Siemens pensions pay at 60).
The EU is a pretty average gravy train considering how competitive the open competition to jump on board is. I left because there was more gravy on offer elsewhere.
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14 minutes ago, ccc said:
Well who would have guessed.
Probably anyone who read that I worked for the Commission.
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6 minutes ago, ccc said:
If there wasn't already numerous good reasons for leaving the EU the fact the average EU official gets a 59k per year pension really leaves us in no doubt.
Corruption on a massive multinational scale.
how is getting your contracted pension corruption.
Also plenty of similar pension schemes closer to home, the railways pension scheme is about as good as the Commission's.
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4 hours ago, rollover said:
Commitments are commitments and should be honored.
Totally agree, some of that money is mine.
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2 hours ago, I'm out said:
Can I be the first to pount out the error in the HTB pictorial ? The home value is of course £240k, being the total of the mortgage and the deposit. The government loan sits on top of this, bringing the purchase price up to £400k. As Warren Buffett pointed out, price is what you pay, value is what you get.
Doesn't the government take the loss if prices drop by more than 5%. If that's true it could be the most sensible way of buying at the moment.
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On 5/18/2017 at 2:36 PM, billybong said:
^ mail link
So it's still just a "target".
Even worse, It's a target with no delivery date.
I.e. it will never happen
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12 hours ago, the gardener said:
I see, so the UK benefits from EU trade to the tune of £100Bn+ per year but the EU only benefits by £50Bn? Right.
That must be because of the huge trade surplus the UK has with the EU. Oh wait....?
Like I said, nonsense, made up Remoaner fabrications. Try harder.
Well that's what the major economic forecasters think, your problem is you are not even trying as its just so much easier to make thing up.
For some reason when I read this I thought of you: https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earth-conspiracy-theorist-spirit-level-plane-prove-curvature-7746121
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51 minutes ago, Sheeple Splinter said:
One of the comments in the linked article:
I have no doubt that other EU cities will be capitalising on potential Dublin wobbles.
If the £ collapses they may be getting cheaper electricity even if tariffs were applied (which they won't be).
In any case, in that event the exodus out of London would be so large Dublin would do well if it only took a few % of those leaving.
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3 minutes ago, Sheeple Splinter said:
EU state aid rules didn't prevent this prop...
...odd since:
http://ec.europa.eu/competition/state_aid/overview/index_en.html
What is the story here, no complaint made so no case/issue?
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36 minutes ago, pig said:
The story is actually about Ireland specifically being screwed over by Brexit.
Interesting comment about refusing to close the border...
No one is going to close the border as checkpoints are too tempting a target for any remnants of the IRA still up for the armed struggle.
If we go down the tariff route, I can see the border areas booming like Hong Kong as the smuggling opportunities will be endless. Perhaps one of those farms that span the border would be a great investment.
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27 minutes ago, pig said:
The story is actually about Ireland specifically being screwed over by Brexit.
Interesting comment about refusing to close the border...
Ireland may do quite well out of a hard Brexit, already there is a shortage of high quality commercial property in Dublin as leases and options are being bought up as firms makes their contingency plans to move staff out of London. We could easily see +5,000 jobs move to Dublin which is quite a big deal for a country the size of Ireland.
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34 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
It was always going to be hard brexit, 30+ vetos in 24 months; never going to happen.
There is a big difference between a hard Brexit and no deal.
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5 hours ago, the gardener said:
Made up nonsense figures.
Also you see only one side. How much is trading with us worth to the EU? You can subtract that off the price for starters.
What figures are you using.
Bit rich coming from you, Mr anything I don't like must be wrong.
About £50bn.
Maybe that would give us about £25bn if we went for 50-50 split of the benefits of a deal; but as the relative economic harm impacts about 10 to 1 on the UK, they may decide they don't need to.
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9 minutes ago, ****-eyed octopus said:
Some sources for that £100bn please?
Posted on here buy Grizzly - summary of all the major forecasts
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13 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
We helped build the BMW factory. So we should get a discount.
Let me know you get on.
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6 minutes ago, hotairmail said:
It was more to do with Iceland extending its waters and asserting its rights unilaterally:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-33561297
If we extend our limits to 200 miles, we could take Paris.
No it was technology, even if we had access to Iceland today the fishing and much of the processing would be done by huge factory trawlers.
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9 minutes ago, Riedquat said:
See my earlier post - our sea space is a lot richer in fish than many thanks to the geography of the seas surrounding the UK (in general shallower because the continental shelf extends unusually far).
But fish travel, so we need to reach agreement on quotas otherwise there will soon be no fish. Why wouldn't the EU argue for a % sea space based allocation.
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8 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
I've been trying to find that link...
Single market access should be a percentage figure of GDP and the same for all participating countries. That sounds fair to me.
Fine if you are part of the EU, not relevant otherwise.
Look at it from their point of view, by investing huge amounts of political and financial capital they have created something of value. Now if an outsider (and competitor) wants access, the EU will think lets work how much that's worth to you and agree a price that is beneficial to both of us. Which say £40bn would be.
You proposal would be similar to me going to BMW saying can you sell me a nice new £100k M5 for £30k (that's the marginal cost of production, once all the sunk costs have been paid). Not going to work is it.
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3 minutes ago, Riedquat said:
Oh it probably will be changed in our favour but unfortunately that's just a drop in the ocean (no pun intended). The community and way of life it supported is dead regardless, and regardless of the EU too, when one big probably mostly and no doubt soon to be entirely robotic ship can do the lot. I doubt there's even enough for that to even have a particularly significant economic benefit, although there's an argument that big benefits are often made up of lots of small and individually not very significant things.
How would that work,.Currently we have 30% of the quota but 13% of the total sea space.
Surely we will go back to a fair 13% (30% was agreed because historically we had a huge fishing fleet).
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7 minutes ago, Riedquat said:
As far as pro- or anti- EU goes, not really, it was more of an aside. Fishing is pretty much trashed and gone no matter what.
Not gone, just a small industry made so efficient that the jobs supported in otherwise poor areas are now almost negligible.
Despite not ever being a EU issue, after immigration it probably was the most talked about issue driving the Leave vote in Blackpool.
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2 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
Still waiting on the source of that £100bn figure.
And the figure for how much it's going to cost the EU when trading with the UK on WTO terms.
loss of UK contribution and loss of revenue trading with us on WTO is starting to add to quite a potential sum...
It is contained in the report you posted.
IIRC £108bn p.a. was the average of all the main economic forecasts out to 2030. The relative negative impact was around 10 to 1 UK v EU.
Of course they are only forecasts so outturn could be better or worse (the Treasury thinks will be much worse) but assuming it is right would the EU be justified in charging say £40bn a year for full access to the single market - we would still benefit by +£60bn a year.
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3 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
We are an island - fish is one of the natural resources we have.
Surely you make best use of the limited assets you have?
You do realise that the fish are not British and routinely swim across national boundaries, so even if we leave the EU we will still have to agree quotas with them.
Also despite only having 13% of the EU sea space we are allocated 30% of the total fish quota, so outside of the EU we will be doing a lot less fishing.
Brexit What Happens Next Thread ---multiple merged threads.
in House prices and the economy
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Looks like the Germans haven't been reading this thread.
https://www.ft.com/content/9bd3b76e-8079-35da-bcd2-bbc0964b9c60