The Fool Gammon
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2 hours ago, disenfranchised said:
I am English. I think the union is fine only as long as it has majority support, and see nothing wrong with checking that via referendum every so often.
As for not being able to get into a Brexiters head on this sovereignty thing, I'll try to help - I will start with the top issue driving the vote, immigration. Wasn't my top issue, but I understand the following arguments and concur...
Polling suggests this was the #1 political issue for Brits from 2001-2016, and 71% felt it was too high. First of all, we had the new Labour reaction, which was to trumpet erroneous statistics on what an economic benefit it was, and call people racists. Didn't make any difference, just made them unpopular. "Bigoted woman" buried Gordon Brown in the 2010 election. The 2010 election was when the "tens of thousands" pledge was first made by Cameron.
It could never be delivered in the EU. European human rights law dictates that it cannot be. We 'only' have 94,000 non-EU immigrants on skills based visas a year - so it sounds plausible, until you learn we have 137,000 non-EU immigrants a year for the purposes of "family reunion", a right largely granted by Europe, which ensures this larger flow of exactly the kind of immigrants many really don't want, unskilled 3rd worlders. We can change certain standards, like the income threshold for spousal visas, but we cannot change the basic premise, nor the ability of lawyers to constantly drag cases right up to the European court on appeal at vast expense. It goes without saying that within the EU Free Market, we also cannot do the slightest thing about the 900,000 Poles who came here during that 15 year period were a very sizable majority wanted lower immigration.
So, pooling our sovereignty has really ment preventing democracy from functioning. The people clearly and consistently want something that an independent nation could deliver with ease, it becomes a manifesto pledge (re-stated in 2015), and then it turns out Westminster is incapable of doing it, as they have ceded the rights and powers required to do so. I'm sure the Selfservatives knew that, but they only lie when their lips move.
So the vote was based on racism and them furreners (six) stealing our shopping aisles. Thanks for confirming.
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2 hours ago, Cozza said:
Just a brief missive to ask you to support the Independent's petition for a Final Vote on Brexit:
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-give-people-a-final-say-on-brexit-deal?signed=true
You never know what might happen if enough people sign it. ☺️
Signed and distributed. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
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1 hour ago, ccc said:
You really are too glaringly obvious
Is that your usual modus operandi, trying to dodge questions and laugh it off once your lies have been called out? We can roll with the punches all day if you like buddy.
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4 hours ago, ccc said:
Terrible attempt. Try harder.
Is English your first language? I mean that most sincerely, as it states quite clearly in plain English at the top of this page: “House prices and the economy. This is the main discussion forum where you can have your say about house prices and the economy.”
So I repeat, try again.
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Just now, ccc said:
This forums name is house price crash.
You are being far too obvious. Try to be subtle next time. Just a wee tip.
Incorrect. This forum is House Prices and the economy.
Maybe a bit less of the all day drinking, eh?
Try again.
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9 minutes ago, GrizzlyDave said:
If you really knew anything about Spain and the Spanish you would know that there are millions more against that barbarity you post than for it. But that wouldn't suit your agenda, eh?
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3 hours ago, dugsbody said:
That is complete nonsense, sorry.
The highest proportion of remain voters are also those with the lowest home ownership figure.
Indeed. Most voters voting for Brexit were the older generations who have a large chunk of housing stock and triple-locked pensions. Not the young renters with jobs to lose.
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4 hours ago, ccc said:
So yet another poster appears on a forum about house prices and commences to make only comments about Brexit.
What does it matter one jot to you want I am interested in, especially as the clue is already in the name of this forum?
That's just weird.
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4 hours ago, ccc said:
Yes. We are all going to starve. The army will be wandering around shooting people. We will all get super gonnorhea. All diabetics will die.
Or maybe not.
Have you been in the pub all day again; did I say we are all going to starve? No, you did.
Try again.
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1 hour ago, ccc said:
The wording says it all.
"If Britain crashes out of the EU"
Why is choosing to leave something "Crashing out" ?
Project fear II
Because there are no plans, beyond armed troops on the streets and empty supermarket shelves. That really didn't need explaining did it now?
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This thread should merged with the Brexit one. Best to keep all Brexit fools penned into one thread.
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46 minutes ago, chronyx said:
Source?
Sauce?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/army-on-standby-for-no-deal-brexit-emergency-dz3359lrf
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Army on standby. Let the stockpiling begin.
Brexit What Happens Next Thread ---multiple merged threads.
in House prices and the economy
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What are you talking about? I am my own man. Successful in my own right from my own endeavours. I care about Brexit because it will directly affect my family, especially my children’s futures. I do not care why you voted but I do not want to bring my children up in a closed bigoted country. They deserve better than that. It’s suspicious to me that when you are called out for your obvious lies or misinformation you go quiet only to pop up hungover days later incoherent. Why do you care about forcing Brexit on to people like myself?
Last time I checked Gammon is a piece of meat, not a racial term. Deal with it.