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    The Silent Run Exposed

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    I guess we shall not seen any physical runs on banks as most people have on-line accounts now...

    I wonder how many people cleared the accounts to the safe limit..

    I told my parents to do just this a few weeks ago.

    Also, I happened to be at their house just this Thursday, when the TPG news broke and this alarmed them more.

    Reading some of the city analysts comments this morning I've told them to withdraw the remainder. They just gone into town now to do this.

    Am Blames Greed As Credit Crunch Bites

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    People blame tobacco companies for the fact they smoke. They blame McDonalds for the fact that they're fat. They blame 'irresponsible mortgage lenders' and 'corporate greed' for the fact that they're up to their eyeballs in debt. People who let others do the thinking for them are Sheeple...... I'm sure there's a Welsh joke in there somewhere ;) .

    Perhaps you'd like to contribute to this thread too:

    Credit Crunch - The Reality, Is it just an Anglo Saxon phenomenon?

    Remind me again, in which country is the UK's and arguably the world's financial capital located?

    The Housing Market Collapse And Musical Theatre

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    Hey, Selling Up, do you think you could write either a farce or comedy musical about the House Price Bubble? Carry on Crashing?

    There's got to be room to include all the songs we've mentioned on this forum and all he figures we've ridiculed including Adam Applegarth, Kirstie Allsop (as the Wicked Wtich) and Declan Curry.

    How about audience interaction where the Credit Crunch character lurks in the background, with audience shouting to the clueless property bulls "It's behind you!".

    Just a thought.

    Taxi for Mr Spart!

    Tipping Point Reached Methinks

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    Starbucks: 'Coffee for people who don't like the taste of coffee'.

    In Singapore they've done the same thing to - believe it or not - toast.

    Like Starbucks, they've taken something simple you can make yourself and applied both the designer touch and marketing glamour - for a premium.

    I had a look at their toast menu the other day and didn't see anything I'd recognize as toast you eat at home.

    I've never been a fan of Starbucks. I just get the impression they frown upon people who just simply want a cuppa. Today they are themselves toast.

    Bbc Hardtalk

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    Woke up at 4am this morning (jetlag :angry:).

    unable to get back to sleep I turned on BBC News to watch Steven Sackur hold a really excellent interview with Howard Davies, former Chairman of the FSA.

    They covered most of the topics wer cover here; credit crunch, banks, CDO's House Prices.

    Thoroughly recommend a viewing.

    iPlayer Link

    Next showing on BBC News channel is tonight at 23:30 tonight according to schedule.

    Declan Bbc1 Now

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    What came across very clearly was Curry's open hostility towards Jonathan Davies.

    Had the vested interests not gotten themselves punch drunk on their own cum, there wouldn't be need for a website like this to tell the truth about dangerously high property prices.

    Wind Farms- The Us Way

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    I get very disturbed when people start talking about overshoot and overpopulation, the terms are extremely tricky to pin down and the language is all to close to advocating genocide or depopulation.

    I get very disturbed when people knowingly propose that an extreme problem can only be solved with an extreme solution, deliberately evading the options in between.

    This issue, like so many previous issues in history, needn't be seen in such polarised, black and white language; its scaremongering effect plays into the hands of the psychopaths who control our biggest institutions.

    They love to see ever increasing populations; just look at the population arms race between Catholicism and Islam of centuries gone by. Today's real power brokers, the neo-nazi-cons, have mastered these two ploys to very great advantage. The more disciples consumers there are on the planet, the more contributions profit they can squeeze out of them.

    See, unfortunately the consequences of failing to control population size may be even worse than genocide.

    The kindest way to deal with the problem is to let those now alive live out the best possible life without having excessive numbers of offspring.

    The Catholic Church, for one, could lift its ban on the use of contraception.

    Wind Farms- The Us Way

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    The current problems with the food and oil are not due to too many people, they are due to oil wars and turning food into fuel on a large scale which has been mandated when it should have been made illegal because food is more important than fuel. In addition if you think resources etc are overused then logically you should eliminate the largest users of resources on a per capita basis, in the US and Europe, and not poor blacks and Indians which seem the usual target for liquidation.

    Della, I'm sorry for you if you can't make the connection between increased demands for resources from an ever increasing population and increasing prices for those resources. Its economics at it most basic.

    All of us, correction, most of us accept that the real reason the US has developed such a strong influence in the Middle East is not just to ensure low oil prices for its consumers back home, look at the close ties between the Bush and Saud clans. War also happens to be a terrifically profitable business. So what better way could there be for both Bushes to profiteer than under the cloak of patriotic righteousness?

    Few living in the developed Western nations would want to accept a worsening in their standard of living, we all love our freedom to travel for instance. Only the very most begrudging would want to deny that quality of life to blacks or Indians (as you put it). I certainly don't. I myself married an Asian woman of modest means and she will be the first one to tell you how much the quality of her life has improved because I sensibly share around what little I have to give.

    For me, I'd rather see the people that are already living enjoy the best possible life rather than see the population increase massively and watch the destruction of civilisation as individuals fight it out like feral animals for a meagre share of rapidly dwindling resources. If we are to achieve that utopian vision then it means stabilising population growth.

    Please, don't ever lecture me with sanctimonious claptrap about poor blacks and Indians. I live in Asia. Tragically, little orphans can frequently be seen trying to eek out a living on the streets while avoiding a beating from hostile locals or the police, long since having been abandoned by their mums, poor uneducated women pimped into prostitution by their lazy vicious husbands, and one day forgot to take the pill. It is the most heart breaking thing you will ever see in your life. It will move you tears then fill you with utter rage.

    If children are going to be born into an existence like that it is better they were never born at all, God help them, and yet that is what is happening in the world outside your window: a world of dread and fear.

    Wind Farms- The Us Way

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    No one here has made mention of the fundamental problem.

    There are just too damn many of us.

    Completely agree. With so many major problems culminating simultaneously, Newsnight recently held a debate on the subject. Jonathan Porritt made the same points you do Steve, and more. Below is an email I wrote to Jonathan after show, editted to hide my real name. For anyone interested there is an organization called the Optimal Population Trust.

    Newsnight debate and the role of media in controlling fertility rates.‏

    From: Dave Spart (davespart@hotmail.co.uk)

    Sent: 01 June 2008 14:11:34

    To: jonathon.porritt@sd-commission.org.uk

    Dear Sir Jonathan,

    I have just watched the recent Newsnight debate on BBC World (I am an expat living in Singapore). I agree with all your comments. The populations of neighbouring Indonesia and The Philippines, two countries I have much experience of, have exploded over the last century.

    Try it for yourself. In Indonesia, every Tom, Dick and Mary will habitually turn any conversation around to enquire as the size of your own brood then treat you with contempt if you don't measure up in their minds and gloat in front of you over their newborns. Filipino couples seem to be under the impression they are obliged to have enough offspring for a entire football team. Every individual I met in The Philippines boasted of having at least ten siblings. No exageration.

    The upshot is that these two countries are now so densely crowded they appear to have ceased to be populated and are now instead infested. Literally these countries are infested with humans. There are people living in every nook and cranny imaginable. Whereas rather depressingly, in the US, we've witnessed an arms-race in Sports Utility Vehicles, in Indonesia and The Philippines its a brood-size arms-race.

    The reason I write to you is to make a suggestion that you - being in the position you are in - can possibly do something about.

    What always strikes me about the Indonesian and Filipino media - and the same probably goes for Africa and Latin America too - is the complete absence of any family planning education or any attempt to educate the population in the Law. I mean there's just none - none whatsoever. There is no attempt whatsoever to impart the messages appropriate for managing the size of the populations. TV is mostly low brow trash; soap, music and celebrity nonsense. Indonesian TV devotes a great deal of time to Islamic issues and the Filipino airwaves are dominated by money-grabbing TV evangelists. There is woefully little educational material or intelligent debate and certainly nothing as incisive as Newsnight.

    As the large-family culture therefore goes unchallenged, the population explosion problem is never addressed. How can we possibly hope that Indonesians and Filipinos will suddenly and spontaneously change their views and opt to have small families instead?

    In Singapore by contrast the media is state controlled, censored and full of propaganda. While I don't agree with all of it, I can understand the reasons for much of it. Many of the messages Singapore's media convey concern for taking personal responsbility - what is right and wrong and why - and those transgressing the expected standards are occasionally named, shamed and made examples of. While you may find Singapore's approach to the media unpalatable it brings results. (Ironically Singapore has been the victim of its own success. Professional families have in recent years chosen to focus on their careers to such and extent the government has had to encourage people to have families!)

    While I am not necessarily advocating the Singaporean media model, I am convinced that in such countries the media is key to changing the accepted local orthodoxies and key to helping bring about more sustainable population growth rates.

    Its good to see the population problem is no longer taboo. Now let's take action to solve it before it really is too late.

    Regards,

    Dave Spart

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