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  1. I think it has got to the stage where they no longer see it as their duty to do anything to help ordinary people get through life. It's purely based on market forces and you can either sink or swim as far as they are concerned, can't see that attitude changing either as they are feeding off the super rich.

    If only this were the case whereby the cost of living was purely based on market forces. It's their constant intervention in preventing market forces taking full effect that has caused the problem

    Supply and demand, load of ********, more like cheap socialised money being giving out recklessley.

  2. If only they could see the truth, that wealth creation in the UK has been substitued for putting money in the back pockets of a select few that own a significant amount of property.

    The technology revolution has created masses amounts of wealth and freed up time in automation, you would have thought we'd have all been working less and enjoying life more, instead people are working more to meet their rent and transferring it to boomers who don't work at all.

    I guess it's like the serfs/peasants, until the black death/fire of london etc. they just accepted their lot. They didn't have access to the internet though...

  3. actually how come it hasn't happened already?

    There's a significant amount of people who have had the metaphorical crap kicked out of them from a life perspective, and are just basically taking it.

    I've seriously struggled to understand how engineered HPI madness has been allowed to continue in this Country. If someone comes along and nicks a fiver from you, you get angry about it, if they nick a few hundred thousand off you, why is it ok?

    Honestly, if it keeps going like this I'll have to start instigating a revolution myself

  4. Well, you've just told me that musicians are making money from live performances. A bit like how bands make a living before getting a record deal. Can you also tell me how many bands make enough from their record deals to just sit about writing songs? Are there really no bands making a living by touring selling their songs direct to the public? I'm afraid you'll have to do better that 'your whole post is wrong'.

    Anyway I'm struggling to see your point - are you saying that bands not making money from record sales means that copyright law doesn't actually work? :lol:

    In that case I agree with you.

    Actually bands just don't make money, unless you're huge these days. Most of the young ones scrape around trying to "keep going" on live performances but the difference is even if they manage to land a record deal they don't get paid anymore for it. So the game now is to have a laugh till you get a proper job.

    And it's not about copyright law not working, that's only part of it. It's a combination of a)people being selfish b)no copyright law and c)nothing "special" to own. Songs were broadcast on the radio, you could copy them onto tape.The difference is now, people just don't bother to go the extra step and buy the music as you don't get anything more for it.

  5. None of what you said is contrary to my post. Can you point out which bit I've got wrong?

    Your whole post is wrong, particularly the bit where you invent this fantasy world where these mythical bands "keep going" on a tin of beans and some determination and people actually pay money to them. The general rule is that musicians don't make money any more, everybody knows it, and it's the direct result of people not paying for music anymore. As far as there being "more music" out there, there's a lot more crap yeah.

  6. Young artists have never needed a record contract to start making music and most bands don't get huge advances to keep them going. Nor do they need a record contract for people to buy their music - if people like it and want more, they will pay money and always have done.

    It has never been easier to violate copyright law and yet there is more music available than ever.

    I'm afraid your argument simply doesn't add up. Sorry.

    And this is based on what exactly? Your extensive knowledge of the music industry? I worked in A&R during the early 90's and it's a completely different prospect now because money can't be made from record sales. Just feel free to ask any young artist how the games shifted and how you can only make money from live performances with the record being the promo for it - you're completely out of touch, sorry.

  7. Nonsense, artists are creating alternative ways of selling their stuff all the time. See the Marillion example. Radiohead are another example. It is the record companies that shout loudest to defend copyright law. I wonder why.

    I think you just made the point. Your examples are 2 past it bands with a huge fanbase built up over the years. Well I mean, duh, of course acts that already have had global exposure thanks to record companies marketing the hell out of them a couple of decades ago can ask their fans for money. I can site you numerous examples of young class acts that have been sidelined and spend their time eeking out a living playing small gigs but funnily enough you won't have heard of them as no record company is willing to take the risk to try and sell them anymore, unless of course they've had a zillion hits on youtube which isn't exactly the best judge of an artists worth, see: justin bieber.

    I wonder whether radiohead would have made it these days I still remember seeing them in a small bar in london many moons ago singing about people jumping out of airplanes with a certain intensity and I see bands just as good and vibrant kicking around the place nowadays while people at the bar get drunk and ignore them. By the way I have their first release on vinyl, and it's worth quite a bit of money these days, I'd like to see that happen with someone's first youtube video :lol:

    As for this ****** about selling themselves, artists aren't the best at marketing, and while they're concerned about that the music isn't getting made is it :rolleyes:

  8. The problem is that no-one is making that argument - you are continually misrepresenting the argument being made to suit your point of view.

    What I can't understand is why you are taking the point of view in the first place - normally I am in agreement with your posts that point out the hypocrisy of neoliberals and corporatists, but in this case you are on their side.

    Can't you see that copyright law is one of those government-conferred advantages/protections such as property rights over land or limited liability that rent seeking corporatists absolutely adore? The entire point of copyright law is to protect the interests of the likes of publishers and record companies - middlemen that produce nothing, but want to monopolise a revenue stream, not the artists. Artists can always create more.

    Artists can only create more if they have the money to buy time to create more

    No time = no creations

    No money = no time

    No revenue stream = no money

    No copyright = no revenue stream

    No copyright = no creations

  9. i cant believe this lying frump is still on the box, and even more amazed anyone listens to anything she has to say on any subject. the sooner this plummy deluded goering is removed from the tv - the better.

    everytime she opens her disjointed mouth, the more prolonged the depression will be.

    She seems to be a cheerleader for middle england

    The guy was simply expressing a quite rational opinion that putting his money into an overpriced house didn't seem to be a good life choice

    Krusty of course got the hump, so blinded by her own hype and convinced by her way being the only way - somebody not buying into overpriced pwoperdy would not do

    So she wheeled out the big guns - at his age he shouldn't be giving away money to a landlord, it's not an investment she says

    Why this ignoramus graces our screens I'll never know

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