Britney's Piers
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What about ancient Rome? Massive sucking-in of wealth from the country to the city. Corn dole needed to feed the urban population who couldn't grow their own food any more (unlike the smaller Italian towns where people did in fact commute from towns to farms in the countryside), hugely expensive building works, baths and gladiatorial shows needed to keep them happy and stave off civil unrest.
Thing is, it's not purely about economics now and it never was. The Roman elites, just like the modern ones, needed a power base who they could buy through public spending.
They needed dole and bread and circuses because they still kept a slave class who took the work away from the unemployed free working class, which is in fact how is still works except the slaves are now immigrants and the gladiator games are now talent shows.
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Britain and Europe are going always to be inextricably linked whether we or they like it. That is a simple fact of geography and history. It has nothing to do with the EU or the Euro
Britain has always been aloof from Europe ever since Joan of Arc kicked the English out.
Europe is run by either the French or the Germans at any point in time. Britain's role in Europe has been to act as ballast, constantly shifting allegiance between France and Germany to fight against whichever one of the two looks to be on the brink of taking over the whole continent. That's it for hundreds of years. If the Germans are going to go ahead with this german bloc of euro states, then expect Britain to side with France on the issue. That is the only way Britain "influences" in Europe.
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One senior German government official said it was a case of pruning the euro zone to make it stronger.
"You'll still call it the euro, but it will be fewer countries," he said, without identifying those that would have to drop out.
In 2006 the Germans created a map of their plan for Europe, those countries which were in German sphere of influence.
German "Imperium" Europe 2006/12/22
BERLIN (Own report) - On the eve of Germany's presidency of the EU, German cartographical plans for a "large scale reordering of Europe" have come to light. These maps were produced at the request of the German Foreign Office and are intended for the political and administrative use of German authorities. (for USE, they intend to do something, well now we know) In these presentations, Germany dominates the area called "Middle Europe" as the country with the largest population. Great Britain, France, Belgium and the Netherlands are excluded. Denmark, Spain, Italy and Portugal also do not belong to "Middle Europe". Former Yugoslavia up to the Albanian frontier and thirteen other states in Eastern Europe do. According to the themes developed "areas historically ruled by the predominantly German-speaking states" are the most "suitable" for inclusion in the "The cultural space (Kulturraum) of Middle Europe". The accompanying charts designate parts of France, Denmark, the whole of Luxemburg, Switzerland and upper Italy to the political fiction of a German-dominated centre. Naturally, Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary are taken into the project. Various areas are claimed as part of "Middle Europe" because they were originally part of the German Reich, "quite separately" from their later conquest by the Nazis. german-foreign-policy.com is publishing excerpts from these charts which bear a worrying similarity to projections made by the predecessor states of the German Federal Republic.
The charts themselves arise from a "definite request" [1] by the German Foreign Office, intended to form a "position paper on the reordering of Europe into large regions". The plan was discussed in the "Standing Committee for Geographical Names" (StAGN), a body little known outside specialist circles, of which the Director of the Leibniz-Institute for Territorial Science is a member.[2] This institution enjoys state funding and publishes authoritative guidance for geopolitical purposes. The German specialists in re-ordering are supposedly geographers but have repeatedly produced work affecting the sovereign rights of foreign states. In the institute, "Lebensraum" is a matter occasionally discussed.[3]
http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56041?PHPSESSID=u6a0l9cj4gbkpt9qpn7s8igov6
So there you have the plan all along.
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This must have been said before, but surely the trouble with a citizens income is that the feckless (both rich and poor) will simply spend all their money unwisely and end up starving to death on the streets anyway. It'll end up being charities who help them.
Well, that already happens now...
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JSA helps to keep wages down so is good for business. That said they should be tortured mildly every week so as to placate the middle class. I am thinking of cutting them on their foreheads a little every week. This would also make it easier for the working population to know who to hate.
This seems to be the crux of it really. What options are there
1. Give no money
2. Give money but for nothing
3. Give money in return for something
1 would only be justified if the system was set up to aim for full employment, which it used to be, but isn't anymore (in fact we are told full employment is bad for the economy
)2 is the system we have now, and everyone knows the problems.
3 is, if we're calling a spade a spade, no different from communist Russia - the state employs you in return for housing and food. We were told this is bad for the economy also.
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Can't see the contradiction between a government telling us we are under siege from terrorists while simultaneously letting millions of immigrants flood in unchecked.
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1 LOL!!!
I hate the whole football thing.
It's just not the football either, it's all the drama surrounding it. Who is up and who is down, who transferred where, what a club paid for such and such, what a manager said in some press conference, I mean who cares? I have to sit and listen to this every day.
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If you teach children they are just accidents that came from a mutant ape one day, and the greatest thing they can hope for with their few years on earth is to accumulate a pile of possessions, then don't be surprised when the society that comes out at the other end is shallow, brutal and stupid.
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when it comes to the sheeple, I think the most infuriating is the love of sport.
So many people are literally obsessed with football, to the point where all they will talk about is football.
Overpaid w'nkers many who are foreign or live hundreds of miles from region they are meant to represent, with no morals or decency kicking around a ball for a indebted-ponzi scheme club owned by some foreign gansta. Everything that was good about football; i.e bringing the community together, etiquette, the price or freeness of it etc has now gone.
If football didn't exist I really think that most men in this country would struggle to communicate or bond with each other. Most likely they'd sit in silence stuck for conversation.
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It's a laugh the way "the panel" are all calling the St Pauls protestors "anti capitalist" when in fact the protestors themselves claim to be pro capitalist.
Total farce.
This is QT, establishment prop.
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Yep. Its well documented too.
Air America, a CIA front in Vietnam transported Opium and Heroin for the Vietnamese. Similiar stuff in Nicaragua and other places.......
The Brits have been drug smugglers and pirates for centuries. Look at the anglo-chinese opium wars.
The British East India Company monopolised opium production manufactured in India, and got all of China Hooked.
Even after China banned it. We still smuggled it in.
Those who make the rules can break the Rules.
But nobody else can.
CIA oversees the growing in Afghanistan / South America, ships the drugs into the country, Get them into the supply chain. Round up millions of the end users and shove them into the privately owned prisons. Where the prison guards will continue smuggling in drugs to give to the inmates so they can keep doing the same "crime" they are prison for in the first place.
What a racket.
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Hmmmm, considering there are a lot of intelligent thinkers on here there's a lot of strange ideas........
Every smackhead I ever met was a thief before he was a junkie; the idea that prohibition causes them to steal doesn't stand up to even basic probing. I'm an Ex - prison officer who has encountered thousands of heroin addicts.
Prohibition doesn't work? Show me a law that eradicates every illegal act iut is attemtpting to supress. Strange we never hear anyone asking for speeding or murder to be l;egalised because we can't stop all transgressors.
There is no war on drugs in any part of 'the west. Japan and Singapore enforce rigorous laws againts drug use and selling and they are very successful. Were we not the self indulgent society we are we might do likewise.
Because the war is a sham, made to pass new laws and enforce a monopoly, not to stop drugs (just as the war on terrorism doesn't square with letting millions of immigrants flood in).
How do drugs get in prisons then, because it's nigh on impossible to get anything through as a visitor and they don't teleport themselves in....
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A UN report said the global drug trade generated an estimated US$321.6 billion in 2003.[1] With a world GDP of US$36 trillion in the same year, the illegal drug trade may be estimated as slightly less than 1% (0.893%) of total global commerce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade
Hmm how much of that finds its way through the City of London I wonder.
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The "war on drugs" was the original "war on terrorism" and a lot of laws were passed and liberties were confiscated under the excuse of clamping down on drugs, even though in the 70s heroin could be got free on prescription and only a handful of people ever used it, statistics were somewhere in the 1000s for the entire country or not even that high, same with cocaine and crack. The CIA and MI6 oversee production and distribution of these drugs and gain financially from them, they will never be legalised.
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Oh, and a few words about The City of London:
It sure sounds like a great place for a bunch of financial crooks to hang out.
Well of course the City is never going to be in debt, everyone else is in debt to them. It is a very curious place, for example the queen needs to ask permission to enter the boundaries of the city. Now whether she technically "needs permission" is irrelevant (is the lord mayor going to say sling ya hook?) but the fact that even the monarch needs to go through this piece of ceremony when entering the Bankers Turf should ring enough alarm bells itself.
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Utter ********, bnp, nf, midlander etc were always almost exclusively trade unionists, labourites etc and so were their supporters. They almost exclusively take vote share from labour . But eh don't let facts bother us
Labour areas are at the coalface of immigration and multicult so the the damage is right on the doorstep for all to see.
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How would we cope without this talent.
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It was a manifesto pledge by all three parties, one way or another.
Manifestos are not worth the paper they are written on. The MPs do not have any allegiance to the people who voted them in, they swear their allegiance to the Queen. Technically this is supposed to mean they have allegiance to the people via the queen since she made a promise in her coronation oath, but since she is failing to make good on that promise (she's in with the bilderbergers same as the Dutch queen) MPs can do whatever they like.
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Interesting thread this. We have Formerly Employed Youth who is clearly intelligent, but getting a hard time on here for making rational economic decisions, in effect thinking like a businessman and calculating the returns having completed a "cost/benefit" analysis. Amazingly his morals are called in question, and he is accused of "stealing from others."
Like the Fairy Jobmother also said "there is no carrot, its all stick."
On the other hand we have bankers and company CEO's acting like the worst type of benefit claimant, but with an extra six noughts added on. How many times have we heard of falling sales and profits, but not to worry 25% pay rises all round? They are looting their own corporations.Are thier morals questioned? Never, they are merely incentivising themselves.
Those exist, but others would still take any work even if it had no "economic incentive" just like there are those that would find £1000 on the ground and turn it into the police even though economically it is the "wrong" decision, it is a function of upbringing, once you instill ethics into a child it is with them for life, a permanent ghost in the machine. Unfortunately the elite who do not have this ethic, know that others do and exploit this to their own gain. The whole system is insidious and the more this "cost benefit, me me me" approach of the elite psychopaths filters down in society the worse it gets, until you have a situation like china where there is no "economic incentive" to stop for an injured child so you just drive over her.
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I can't argue that it definitely won't happen.. they may be stupid enough to borrow too much money in foreign currency with no plan to pay it back (a la Greece Mk II) Let's hope they have read your warning
Yes, Greece was another one, it was Goldman Sachs collaborated with some corrupt politicians to cook the books.
This is happening to the ivory coast right now, where the incumbent was forced out under the cover of electoral fraud (what a joke, as if there has ever been a legitimate election in africa) and replaced with an IMF man - by that I mean not just bribed or paid off - but an actual employee of the IMF.
This is the reason why types like Gadaffi, Chavez, Achmadinjad are painted as an evil axis, they are no angels obviously but neither is the evil Saudi regime which the USA loves, but because they refuse to let international banks and zionists take over their countries.
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I know I will regret asking.. but what wealth specifically do you have in mind, and who do you expect is going to steal it?
Do you imagine we are going to pipe all of their oil out of the country and not give them a penny in return? open labour camps? steal the copper piping?
IMF men will sweep in and bribe the top leaders to accept loans from international banks, loans which will accumulate interest until they are unpayable, then national assets will be sold off to corporations and social spending cut and taxes raised until the loans get paid off, when the cycle will begin again, or until a "radical islamist" or "hardline marxist" has enough and tells the banksters to stop bleeding his country dry.
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Works great until you run into those who spend it on booze and fags leaving their children to starve. So you have to give them more, and you're into the usual spiral.
Then those children should be taken into care.
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1. The Earth is only so big, and the West collectively is getting more than its fair share of the resources
Africa has many natural resources. The Americas had vast resources but they were busy worshiping animal spirits and cutting each others hearts out to use them.
Why do even right leaning people suddenly adopt this marxist mindset when dealing with the world. "One is rich, one is poor, therefore the rich man must have stolen from the poor somehow". You don't apply it to individuals so why apply it to different nations, not all people are equal and not all cultures are equal. This is why globalisation is a hoax.
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The elite didn't like full employment because the trade off was higher inflation, they would rather have low inflation with mass unemployment. The bank of england governor even came out and admitted this.
The excuse for getting rid of FE was that in the 70s we had inflation and unemployment, so therefore the philips cuve was not reliable. So we had to change economic policy to suit asset holders rather than workers, and that would solve the stagflation problem. Except now in 2011 we have...mass unemployment and high inflation again, so for 3 decades we have been hoaxed by monetarist/neoliberal economists.