HPC001
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While I generally agree with private and free enterprise I believe that there are a number of things that should not be sold off and run on a qtr by qtr balance sheet basis. This is one of them
Others include:
Roads
Defence
Water
I agree on those three. However what we have is the worst of both worlds, "public private partnership" in which the companies have no incentive to provide good value or service. Especially given the nature of the current government.
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Try finding a helpdesk / 1st/2nd line support analyst in the SE. I'm just faced with a parade of people all out of work but who have what I would consider very high expectations for what is a junior role.
Still if you have a big mortgage hanging over you which the govt pays while you are doling then why get out of bed for <40k.
I'd take that job in a heartbeat, better than unstable cleaning or warehouse contracts.
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Precisely.
You agree with me.
It's all different now.
Indeed, it seems you have to buy your way into a job these days. No wonder the less intelligent with no income give up. My course was designed as a day-release programme but no employers were prepared to recognise my existing skills and experience.
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Grad schemes have UCAS point requirements on them for just this reason, generally you need 3 Bs at A-level, or a National Diploma with at least Merit across all three scores.
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The sad bit is ,the level of ability for a lawyer and that of an accountant are in my opinion quite wide, and with universities producing about 10 times more law grads than there are actually positions for means by definition 90% are wasting their times, if she had done accountancy, then she'd probably be OK, but a 2.1 from a former poly against a first from an old uni like bit of a no brainer I'm afraid.
To be fair my university isn't exactly Russell Group. But that's besides the point, I would have taken this course elsewhere if it were offered by another institution. Practical > Theoretical in my opinion, then again some folk think universities should be purely research based and that we should be paying £20,000 per annum fees.
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In answer to your first question, one who is out of work, has little or no experience and would rather get experience whilst being poor, get experience, be known and possibly liked by an employer in their field, would you rather sit on your **** saying but I'm worth so much more than this. For the employer it shows who has real drive, costs them nothing, are they cashing in, that would be a yes then, but this is the new reality, far more people than places, I know a 2.1 grad in law 2008 who's progressed to being a part-time barmaid, back with parents, despirate for unpaid legal experience.
In response to your last point some will say no, but far more will say yes, mindsets are changing quickly I left school in 1980, spent years in shiit jobs trying hard to get anyware, I feel so sorry for youngsters today, the disslocation between their expectations and reality is going to be utterly bewildering, I think it will fall hardest on the meedya studies- soft degree graduates, with worthless degrees and debts of £30,000, by the time they've paid off their debts they will be in their 30s, still living with mum and dad and wondering how the hell with a degree they ended up at Tesco's
I'm not an inexperienced chump with a soft degree, so perhaps I'm not the best placed to comment on the situation. Law is not a sensible choice at the moment, in my honest opinion - accountancy makes more sense. As for the last line - they have their parents' support and a job at Tesco, if we're going by that metric then currently that person would be classed as more successful than me.
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I'm not going to a recruitment fair next week so that blue-chip firms can pay me jack ****. No way, **** that. If a few people lie down accepting this kind of crap, it'll have a knock-on effect and make everyone's lives worse.
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I can see a bit of problem with your social class based theory of intelligence, actually two problems- one being the United states and the other Australia.
Given the fact that most immigrants tend to be poor, and given that the populations of both these countries are descended mostly from immigrants- how do you explain the ability of the congenitaly stupid descendants of the poor to put a man on the moon?
Did they just get lucky or what?
They actually had real free enterprise in the US, we've had years of collectivism and failed wealth redistribution programs.
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You need money to make money in a lot of cases. Not a lot of use if you already lost your job during the recession.
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...on the ground grow your own vegetables, herbs, fruits and salads ....and become vegetarian ....win win all round ...and the cash will jingle jangle.....and reduce your personal inflation footprint....
I live in a first floor flat, so unless you think I can grow them in pots, not likely...
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I've cut down on meat and dairy products because of their price. This just confirms what I've been seeing on the ground here.
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I work at a ftse 100 company and in the last 12months about 60% of the women here have got pregnant or had a child.
It's quite staggering and there seems to be a new one every month. That includes 4 women in HR!
It's an on running joke how only men will now be recruited and left in the company.
There is a lot of incentive to have a child now here... 6 months fully paid maternity leave being one.
Heh, but how old are they? Not 20s I'll bet. I'm all for children, provided the prospective parents are emotionally mature and at least have some hope of providing for them. I say "some hope" because I know plenty of people have lost their jobs through no fault of their own during this recession.
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not without Social Services knocking on your door...
Indeed.
Probably just as well I was unsuccessful, as I'd be a single parent right now...
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Well you can count me out now, although I suppose I would have fallen into category 2 last year...
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I did it at 18. But if I were 18 today, I don't know if I would, and I have a lot of respect for those who take your path. At the same time, I still believe in it: I'm happy that my oldest nephew at 19 is in the middle of his first year at Cambridge, and will be equally happy for his younger siblings provided they go either to real universities or none at all.
If I were in charge of higher education policy, #1 priority would be to make it a normal thing at any age. Coupled to that, normal for 18-year-olds only where they attain a level of education that indicates they're ready for it.
In theory I could have delayed it a couple of years to receive an assload of grants, but I didn't see the point in being stuck on soul-destroying dole schemes while hopelessly scrabbling for low-end jobs with hundreds of other applicants. May as well pull myself up the ladder a bit, 5+ years is enough time to consider serious progression.
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Now if they would just make the damn things independent, so that they'd have to offer scholarships to attract intelligent people from poorer situations...
I didn't jump onto the HE bandwagon at 18 either, I came back into education after some time in the real world. Anyway, let the student bashing continue.
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Even though France is not as near the centre of the economic strife and implosion of Neoliberal Globalization like Britain is, properly owns its utilities, more industries, and has a superior railway network etc, it still has pretty ugly youth unemployment.
Well, it is harder to screw employees over...
Government ministers are trying to find ways to tackle the problem, but in France the situation is complicated by the very laws that are meant to protect employees. It is difficult to fire people once they have a full-time contract and have worked a number of years, so employers tend to give young people only temporary contracts.Dismissals generally cost employers a month's salary for every year that the employee has been hired, and the amount goes up significantly after 15 years of employment, according to France's largest employers union, the Mouvement des Entreprises de France (MEDEF).
You can't say there is the same level of regulation here, yet the unemployment levels are worse.
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Shelter, contrary to their name, do not house people. They're an advice service at best. Usually charities require that their clients claim housing benefit to stay in hostels or other such low grade rubbish. In other words, keeping prices up and lowering quality...
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broadly I agree
I quite like your 'dislikes: hard work' bit - the boomer cohorts have often been accused of fostering a 'work hard, not smart' mentality on account of, early on at least, having been reqarded for this. I think 'jaded' could be more correct to describe the 'priced out' generation.
Working hard isn't any good if you're producing useless rubbish (like these green recommendations from the local council). Less is more, as they say.
Of course, as you imply, those with patience (not having mortgaged themselves) will be rewarded and it won't be so bad for them.Heh, I might (operative word: might) be able to get a mortgage on a property in Hull, but why on earth would I want to live there
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If they paid me a million pounds I'd make it. I'd just design the whole system myself, do the work which my IT skills covered (which sadly is only web and database languages) then outsource the rest with money to spare
Sadly I have to make money the honest way, which means working my ass for for years before the chance to reach 1 mil and even then i'd have done very well for myself. To think some scumbags have been given almost 700mil for just an IT project.
Hell I'd have to be one of the most successful businessmen in the world to build up that wind of wealth, it's almost a billion pounds.
I'll help with the hardware stuff then, we'd make a good team
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The same could be said for any state-funded education at all -- arguably we're leeching off the state from age 4-18 or however long we spend in primary/secondary education.
The reason it's done (at gunpoint up to age 16) is because an appropriately educated/skilled workforce is a public good -- all citizens benefit from it, even if they haven't mastered the skills themselves.
The quality of state education leaves something to be desired. Then again, your literacy need not be an obstacle if you know the right person...
The govt even trotted out numbers about how much a degree benefits the individual financially, in order to justify tuition fees. Well, if it benefits the individual that much, it also benefits the exchequer proportionately (more than proportionately, given our progressive tax system).In the old days a degree was typically beneficial only when you were in certain disciplines (engineering, software) and in other cases for a senior management position. Even now, a random system analyst\network administrator post doesn't really require a degree if you were able to learn in the field. Although I expect the chances of me working in a warehouse for minimum wage again are highly likely...
Still, there's a line and it needs to be drawn somewhere before the point where you end up with hordes of "highly educated" people unable to find appropriate work, or sneering at the work that's available. I have every sympathy with youngsters seeking to acquire useful, marketable skills that will benefit everybody -- and being burdened with debt in order to do so. They should still be grant-funded IMO.Not all degrees are equal, of course. As for marketable skills, well I suspect the market will have changed drastically by the time I graduate and can do full-time permanent work again.
Current student finance is a farcical system, if I had been irresponsible and gone to have a child while neither me or my partner could afford it, the government would have showered us with money (even more for both being students).
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Why don't you blame every employee in the banking industry? They are, after all, responsible for crappy policy and the educational cluster-fvck we are faced with....
Well, there is that, but we've got plenty of other threads discussing those...
Assuming he was talking about getting a minimum grant because of parental means-testing, it predates the current cl*sterf*ck. Basically, uni wasn't 100% free for everyone -- those who were unlucky enough to have rich, mean parents had to finance themselves by means of an overdraft, part-time work or whatever.
I considered myself fortunate to have poor parents, 'cos they wouldn't have given me a bean.
It's not so much that they're considered "rich", it's the idea that at my age I'm supposedly not financially independent (my proof wasn't sufficient apparently). Load of cobblers, but then you can't really reason with government logic these days. Anyway what would be the point of being dependant on the grants? There are still millions in work effectively paying for that so I'd just be leeching in a different form. Obviously if they voluntarily chose to contribute then fair enough, but the state welfare system effectively stifles any real privately organised charity.
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It would appear that the main difference between the 'good' boomers and the likes of Hankinson is that we just got on with the hand we were dealt and fought to change the bits we didn't like.
Hankinson lets his dad pay for all his accom at Uni, racks up £10K of debt on booze and NY holidays and proceeds to blame his dad for his predicament while whining in a national newspaper.
I live in a university city and I know a lot of kids who are working their way through Uni. I take my hat off to them but I don't have time for some of the petulant whining displayed by Hankinson and his apparent fans on here.
That's even more disappointing then. He didn't have to struggle by himself, so what the **** is he whining about? As someone who got screwed by 'means testing' in the student finance system, I'd arguably have more right than him to be complaining in the paper, but that wouldn't really be helping anything. Nope, instead I chose to be frugal with what I do have (not that I engage in beer-swilling, late-night partying and promiscuity anyway). Sacrifices have to be made, like sharing a bathroom\kitchen with other tenants for example.
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The lost generation is starting to catch on, more and more are waking to the reality!
You triple posted, and you're late:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=135803
M Ps Should Repay Profits From Taxpayer Funded Homes
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Our governmental\political system doesn't exactly attract honest, noble people in the first place...