Friday, September 14, 2012
Book launch on site value tax
Smart Taxes Book “The Fair Tax†to be launched soon
campaign group based in rep of Ireland are campaigning for a version of land value tax and launching this book. From their website they exclude non-zoned land, including agricultural land. Not sure why and probably this creates some distortions. However, it seems clear that an SVT would raise massive revenue and allow other less efficient taxes to be displaced.
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libertas says:
The Fair Tax Fraud: http://mises.org/daily/1814
There is No Such Thing as a Fair Tax: http://mises.org/daily/1975
The Flat Tax is not Flat and the Fair Tax is not Fair: http://mises.org/daily/3389
HEADLINE: Tax, since it extracts money from people by force, can never be fair, can never be moral, is based on the concept of central planning being superior to human action. Those who support tax over human action make the decision that a non-violent solution based on voluntary action without coercion and tyranny.
The only fair tax reform is a tax cut, but note, that the spending is a tax, since if it is not funded by tax it is funded by inflation, which is itself a tax with no exemptions: “What You Should Know About Inflation” Henry Hazlitt (1964) http://www.mises.org/story/2914
libertas says:
Understand, that for any of you who claim to be Christians, taxation is a sin, since the Ten Commandments state:
8. Thou shalt not steal.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.
This is why Christians were suppressed by the Roman Empire and other tyrannies which based their power upon the forceful re-distribution of wealth.
mark wadsworth says:
Good to hear that people are organising over in Ireland as well.
@ Libbytwat, as soon you have land ownership, you have taxation.
It may surprise you to realise that ‘land ownership’ and ‘the nation-state’ are synonymous, you cannot have one without the other (have you tried buying, selling or renting land in Somalia or Afghanisation)?
Taxation is money which changes hands because of the actions of the nation-state, therefore all land rents received or paid are a form of taxation.
My belief is
a) that it is better for land rents to be collected publicly and used for things which benefit everybody than to allow them to be collected/enjoyed privately
b) it is far better to collect taxes from land rents than from earned income.
libertas says:
Marx, enough of the vulgar language, typical of radical socialists who seek to demonise their opposition.
Any person with an ounce of sense would understand that what you said is nonsense and moronic. My parents own their house outright, and somehow their ownership of their own house is taxation? No, you moron, their Council Tax and the stamp duty they had to pay is taxation.
You don’t make sense, and use inflammatory language to justify punitive taxation, like any good Marxist / Leninist, acting from the Socialist playbook.
stuartking says:
Libertas: You are getting pretty desperate when you are using the Old Testament, a collection of 2,000-year-old -plus manuscripts, as the source book for your brand of economics. Try the New Testament for a more updated version of ancient fiscal policy in the Middle East:
Matthew 17:24-27 we learn that Jesus paid taxes:
After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?”
“Yes, he does,” he replied.
When Peter came into the house, Jesus was the first to speak. “What do you think, Simon?” he asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes—from their own sons or from others?”
“From others,” Peter answered.
“Then the sons are exempt,” Jesus said to him. “But so that we may not offend them, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours.”
And:
St Paul couldn’t make it any clearer in Romans 13:5-7:
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
mark wadsworth says:
Libbytass, as usual you are wrong and I am right 🙂 When the Normans came over and declared themselves as outright landowners and collected money from the peasants, would you say they were collecting rent or collecting tax? Because actually there is no difference.
And any landowner who claims to own land “outright” is getting a benefit from society far over and above what he is putting back in, which is what we might call a “welfare payment” to the land owner but that has to be funded out of everybody else’s “tax”. So you parents are in fact tax collectors, in a very, very minor way, of course.
SK, good one, but apparently if you delve through the old Testament, it was, as a matter of historical fact, perfectly normal to have land value taxes, the Egyptians did it and the Israelis did it.