Sunday, March 18, 2012
Negative Equity kills
Army sergeant accused of Afghan killings struggled to pay bills
Bales and his wife bought the Lake Tapps home in 2005, according to records, for $280,000; it was listed this week at $229,000.
Posted by peter_2008 @ 10:59 AM (1788 views)
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fubar says:
Well that excuses him from being a murdering barsteward then.
icarus says:
It was probably a drug. The anti-malaria drug Lariam is even-money favourite.
fubar says:
@2 Maybe it was space aliens. Either way he couldn’t possibly be guilty of being a bloody thirsty terrorist out for revenge. He’s on our team, that narrative couldn’t possibly apply.
icarus says:
@3 – maybe it WAS space aliens, but since Lariam is widely used by the US military and since it has been implicated in other ‘out-of-character’ barbarities committed by US military personnel I’ll be keeping it as my even-money favourite.
peter_2008 says:
Now you can see the actual house on sell.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116338/Afghanistan-massacre-soldier-Robert-Bales-trying-leave-Army-money-troubles.html
I think it’s overpriced
Rjm49 says:
Hi icarus, not sure if you are having a laugh here about Lariam. It’s pretty freaky stuff. I (along with a bunch of friends) took it during a six week trip to Kenya several years ago. Besides none of us getting malaria, the most notable effect was crazy, psychedelic dreams. We all had them, and we used to discuss our “Lariam trips” over breakfast each morning. Hard to say whether it had any lasting/negative effect, but I can imagine that if you were on dosed up for long periods it might, especially in a high-stress, traumatic environment.
So yeah, stick a fiver down on that for me too!
general congreve says:
This sort of thing was widespread in Vietnam, no Larium there. All you need is a people that are dehumanised by your sides propaganda and a general war setting. I’ve read shocking accounts of US soldiers shooting unarmed and innocent Vietnamese women, who were just minding their own business, and then raping the dead body. While this recent event may seem shocking news, it is nothing new in the history of war and empire.
fubar says:
@4. Stop making excuses for the murdering scumbag. He was so conveniently deranged he ignored the people nearest him, drove to a village and calming executed 16 human beings. Then set their corpses alight and drove back to his base. This was cold blooded revenge. Plenty of pre-planning evident. If it had been the other way round and an Afghani had driven to a US base and killed 16 soldiers there wouldn’t be all this pathetic justification going on. In that situation the killer would have been called a terrorist. Which is what thus guy and his comrades are and by spiriting him away from the country the US has become an accomplice to the crime.
fubar says:
A US general even made a speech to US forces in Afghanistan two weeks ago saying “Now is not the time for revenge” Suggesting the commanders know something ugly is afoot among the troops. As reported by Robert Fisk in The Independent
icarus says:
@7 – explanations aren’t excuses. Lariam has been linked to psychotic behaviour, nightmares, panic, depression, paranoia, murder and suicide. In Cilla McCain’s book ‘Murder in Baker Company’ she examines the murder and burning of the corpse of a US soldier in the US by four other soldiers and implicates drugs including Larian. The Dept of Veterans Affairs reported that Larian was a probable cause of a spate of domestic murder-suicides at Fort Bragg in 2002. http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_lariam_062504,00.html
Sure, the culture of the military and the trauma of battle are contributary factors, but so also are drugs. Calling them murdering scumbags doesn’t alter that.
jack c says:
US needs to get out of Afghanistan – US (pre-programmed?) soldier runs amok on killing spree – Afghans start insisting US should leave – just a thought (setting aside the emotion specific to this event and overall tragedy of war)
general congreve says:
@9 – I’ll concede it could potentially have played a small part, never had a problem when I took it, but some chick I met travelling went absolutely nuts on it. Of course, she might have just been a complete bitch anyway. 😉 That said, it is not a necessary ingredient for war crimes (the Nazi’s and Serbian’s weren’t on it).
icarus says:
@10 – Nor were the Tutsi and Hutu who massacred each other in Rwanda and Burundi. But there’s arguably a motivational difference (not a more/less blame difference) between an individual in an army setting out to destroy another people and an individual running amok, doing his own thing, knowing he’ll be caught and punished and not caring about that.