Tuesday, January 17, 2012

More frothing

Romanian Big Issue seller given legal right to claim housing benefit (on top of the £25,000 she already claims)

A Romanian immigrant who sells the Big Issue has won a landmark case that will allow her to claim housing benefit that could total £20,800 a year. She is currently paid £326 each week in tax credits, £60.50 in child benefits, £49.30 in disability living allowance and £55.50 a week in carers allowance. Speaking through an interpreter, Ms Vasile said she came to the UK in 2007 to look for work, but could only find a post at the Big Issue. The single mother of four - with one child disabled - works between 16 and 24 hours each week, spread over up to five days. She argued that the benefits will allow her to continue paying rent on her 3-bedroom house.

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22 thoughts on “More frothing

  • unfortunately we’ve all been brainwashed that any comment on a story like this is potentially wrong to criticise

    reminds me of russia in the cold war.

    bout time we spent money on our kids and old folk..after all thats what the tax system is for innit?

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  • M’learned friends have done very well out of this, as no doubt they will from the coming appeal too.

    At least it will keep them in their (indirectly taxpayer funded) mansions.

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  • unfortunately we’ve all been brainwashed that any comment on a story like this is potentially wrong to criticise

    Not really…they have contributed nothing to the UK so why should they be entitled to the benefits?

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  • words are fine but no-one has the guts to do anything about it.out of fear

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  • that’s what we have our wonderful mp’s for………

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  • “.they have contributed nothing to the UK so why should they be entitled to the benefits?”

    interesting that you claim to know this on the back of a tabloid (gutter) press article.

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  • what seems incomprehensible is that we have homeless people unable to get a new start or help.

    also friend recently went to sign on and was enttitled to nothing at all….how can that be….he had less than two years NI paid because of employment gap and his partner was working so he wasn’t even entitled to #62 per week…yet his home is at risk.

    marry that up to this romanian woman and it makes no sense at all….how can we not help people born here who have paid into the system,but help immigrants who have contributed nothing?

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  • taffee – my view is that it is all part of what I call the Legal game – lots of serious money being made by a relatively small but highly influential few and they dont want it to stop.

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  • [email protected] , jack [email protected] ,

    When you put it all together the message is clear .

    There is an awful lot of money sloshing around the system but you will never get even a tiny share of it if you try and do the right thing .

    This acts as a real incentive to work or try because you can never get close to the troughers on the gravy train .

    We have only party , the Lib Dem’s , which is at least honest about it’s mission of trying to destroy the UK to bring about a European superstate and two others which want the same thing but won’t admit it .

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  • alot of people don’t know that courts are actually self funding…they get the fines and court costs.

    [email protected]

    bankers and lawyers then!……very powerfull…powerfull enough for goodwin and others to be able to have things changed or removed from the RBS report(reported fact)

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  • ontheotherhand says:

    This scheme of selling a few Big Issues has been going for some time it seems http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8527950/Romanian-families-use-Big-Issue-loophole.html

    21 May 2011

    Two years ago Adrian Oprea was living with his family in a ramshackle hut in a Romanian village with only a handful of farm animals to his name. Many of his friends had moved to the UK to start a new life and they urged him to do the same. One thing stood in the way: when his homeland joined the European Union in 2007, Tony Blair’s government had pledged that unskilled migrants from the former Communist country would be restricted from working and claiming benefits in the UK.

    But Mr Oprea’s friends told him of a loophole. By selling the Big Issue magazine on the streets, he could register as “self-employed” and gain access to benefits and rights to work for his family.

    Now the 24-year-old immigrant lives in a brand new house in Manchester, with eight of his relatives, with the help of the British taxpayer.­­­­

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  • ontheotherhand – I take it that say someone called Mary Smith, white English national from Rochdale (hypothetical like for like example) couldnt set up as self employed to sell the Big Issue and then claim the same benefits? ie the Romanian person gets preferential treatment?

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  • What about an army of CHAVs? Do they contribute to the economy? ??? YES, they actively contribute to population growth.

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  • I came out of our local wine bar last night after consuming a 14oz fillet steak, fat chips and a selection of seasonal veg, followed by sticky toffee pudding with cream and ice cream, then blue cheese and biscuits to finish off, all washed down with a nicely chilled bottle of Moet. A Romanian Big Issue seller came up to me outside and said “I’ve not eaten for 2 days”.
    I thought to myself…. ‘I wish I had your effing willpower’

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  • ontheotherhand says:

    jack c. I’m guessing that someone English could claim these benefits, but they would do it without needing the self-employed trick via Big Issue. Our own benefit users at least have the advantage of not having to make a pretense at work so can stay at home all day.

    The benefits available are also relatively more attractive to a Romanian because it also includes getting their family legally into the UK which an English person has the right to naturally.

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  • Roma Big Issue seller in my area always takes one of the outdoor tables in front of a chain cafe. Looks like a nice, dry, comfortable pitch. I always wonder why the cafe managers don’t tell her to stop occupying a chair that’s intended for their customers.

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  • “The benefits available are also relatively more attractive to a Romanian because it also includes getting their family legally into the UK” and any hint they might be sent ‘home’ results in a lot of legal work over a good 3 to 5 year period at roughly £3 million quid

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  • That romanian gypsy woman won’t get to keep a penny of that money – instead it will be paid out in rent and go to her landlord. It’s a great headline and we all get to moan at immigrants – but it’s the landlords that pocket the cash. In addition to this has anyone every wondered why so many of these immigrants end up in £1 million pound homes? The answer to that question in my opinion, is to ask – who is the landlord ? Landlords with vested interests e.g. Housing associations, Hight networth individuals need immigrants and people on benefits to pay to live in their properties … it’s a great little earner. Even I am affected by it .. i’m looking to move now and i’ve seen a few adverts by DSS offering a lot more than I can afford to spend.

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  • @6 “interesting that you claim to know this on the back of a tabloid (gutter) press article.”

    Spoken like a true Guardian reader.

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  • I’ve been self employed for years and so have many people I know, what we found was that it leads to less benefits, this is an example of why we are shafted, cut our defences so that we can give someone more money than they could ever earn, oh and they are from anotherr country, might start refusing to pay tax now !

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  • @17
    yawn
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  • I find this appalling and it is 100% the fault of the present UK legislation.
    This is a slap in the face to the 99.9% of the Romanians working hard in the UK and paying 60-80% of their monthly income as tax, rent/mortgage and bills.

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