Friday, August 12, 2011

Going in the right direction..

Construction growth in UK stronger than thought

"Construction accounts for about 6% of economic output in the UK" - and that's only those directly involved - the trickle down is huge.. ..if we double the construction rate, and get our own unemployed on site (instead of armies of Poles..) the recession and deficit can be beaten..

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  • As Hugh Hendry observed about the Chinese: the construction of buildings that no one will afford to occupy is not progress.

    The desire for something without the capacity to pay for it is not “demand”.

    Would a private sector journalist have addressed this in the same way I wonder? Am beginning to feel decidedly out of step with the BBC.

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  • from Reuters “Year-on-year, construction output fell by 1.6 percent, compared to a first estimate of a 1.4 percent contraction.”

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  • House building, particularly in the so-called ‘affordable’ sector’ or where ‘affordable’ homes are part of a development due to local planning conditions, is being stymied by changes to the way in which ‘affordable’ homes are funded, according to a property consultant.

    David Parry, a partner in the land and development division at property consultancy Cluttons, says on the website Planningresource: ‘The framework sets out changes to the way affordable housing provision will be funded over the next four years. Under the framework, grants will no longer be available on section 106 sites and will be much reduced on others. In addition, the framework introduces the new Affordable Rent model as a substitute for social rented in an effort to make up the shortfall. The Affordable Rent model will allow housing associations to charge up to 80 per cent of market rent.

    ‘The question is: without grant aid, how feasible will housing development schemes be? According to our calculations, the majority could now be unviable. For a development to come forward, landowners must feel that they stand to gain if the land is sold for redevelopment. If there are too many affordable dwellings proposed and the level of private houses values is insufficient, then the land value assuming that planning consent is granted would in theory be a negative amount. In practice, such a development would never get built out.’

    The link, but you will probably have to register… only takes a minute or two: http://www.planningresource.co.uk/Housing/article/1084574/new-affordable-housing-funding-system-threatens-development/

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  • our own unemployed?!?!?? BrItish jobs for British workers is it… you surprise me UT

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  • techie,

    – Why do I surprise you?

    When you’re borrowing without a thought for tomorrow, but worried about unemployment stats; because that’s what a dumb media focus on; it’s easy to let a million able labourers feign disability as an excuse not to work.

    When you’re main concern is preserving the UK’s AAA rating, getting the welfare bill down and raising GDP to narrow the deficit; making a million idle labourers learn how to put houses together makes enormous sense..

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  • you surprise me because of the undertones. My cousin is married to a pole and works in poland. He is accepted without anyone saying he has stole someone’s job etc. its not the getting “idle” labourers on benefit back to work that i took issue with its just the reference to the poles.

    I just think if we dont want to be in the EU then fair dues we shouldnt be in it, but if we are and we grant accession to various Eastern European countries then we shouldnt let them peer through the door but not come in.(i say dont let them in in the first place if we are going to take that attitude).

    I take you back to the days of empire – when we had full employment in the 50s we didnt mind allowing the caribean folks ion to do the jobs that our folks didnt want to do.

    But if thats not the thrust of your argument then i apologise for misunderstanding your viewpoint. Honestly your opinion is one i highly value (whether i agree or not) you always provide food for thought— but i dont agree with the premise re immigration.

    Keith Vaz – i know you may very well dislike him – has an interesting take on this in a 2007 debate: http://www.keithvazmp.com/adjournment-debate-romanian-and-bulgarian-migrant-workers/

    whereas obviously the mail takes a somewhat different view : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001782/Romanian-migrants-send-home-500-000-day-UK.html

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  • techie,

    I have absolutely no issue with the Poles – my issue is with work-shy Brits..

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  • Fair dues UT – have a good weekend

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  • @1. sureseam said…As Hugh Hendry observed about the Chinese: the construction of buildings that no one will afford to occupy is not progress. The desire for something without the capacity to pay for it is not “demand”.

    The actual construction price of a house can be easily afforded by most working people….. It’s the land they are built on that makes them unaffordable.

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  • i woek in construction and it does seem to be busy, your point on cheap labour was an arguement a year ago
    but new measures have now been brought in, all trades now have to have the relevant skill card to gain access to a site, and they will not be issued with the card unless thier qualification has been awarded to them in the uk!!!!!!!!, this is not possible due to aprentiships being given to our own first i for one am so so glad about this, at one point you thought you were working in another country, looks like thier getting it right!! british jobs for british workers! and qualified at that!!!

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