Saturday, May 7, 2011

The public gets what the public wants.

No to AV ... Yes to a whole new constitutional conflict

In a rejection of the Liberal Democrats' 90-year quest for electoral reform and Nick Clegg's supposed big prize of the coalition, the yes camp won only 11 of the 440 voting areas and not a single region in the AV referendum. Clegg accepted the result without complaint. "When you have such a overwhelmingly clear answer you just have to accept it and move on. This is a bitter blow for all those people who believe in the need for political reform, but the answer is clear and the wider job of the government, and the Liberal Democrats in government will continue, to repair the economy, to restore prosperity and jobs and a sense of optimism in the country. That is the job we started and we will see it though. We will dust ourselves off and move on."

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22 thoughts on “The public gets what the public wants.

  • If the lib dems hadn’t proven to be such a useless bunch of turn coat wnkrs since forming the coalition, then they would probaably have got a lot closer to success on this one.

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  • The Lib-Dems have always been a rudderless ship – now they’ve run aground..

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  • nickolarge says:

    So many long held LibDem myths were exposed this week. One was that the country was desperate for a fairer voting system. Another was that the LibDems would gain popularity if they ever got a share of power. Another was that they were actually supported by the people who voted for them. They vastly underestimated the number of folk, like me, who only ever voted for them tactically.

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  • Thecountofnowhere says:

    The funny thing is…I dont know anyone that voted against it !!!!

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  • markj69 str05 says:

    What nicko.. said. And inbreda, my interpretation is that the LD shot themselves in the foot (and head), by turning their backs on so many policies when forming the coalition. They should have just agreed to disagree on all differences of opinion from the onset (Stick to their beliefs).

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  • “Stick to their beliefs”

    What beliefs? What is the core LibDem ideology? No-one really knows, not least, the LibDems themselves..

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  • I think the majority of Lib-Dem voters in England were disillusioned Labour voters that voted Lib-Dem because they could never bring themselves to vote Conservative as they have a legacy hate for them.

    They have now seen the Lib-Dems get into bed with the Conservatives, which they dislike for the same legacy reasons, and so many of them have reverted their vote to Labour.

    Simples really!

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  • Shall we pick a title for this news story?

    Britain votes No
    Britain says ‘F*** Off’
    Britain says No; Scotland says ‘F*** Off’
    Britain says ‘Take your AV and shove it up your ASS’
    If I hadn’t voted ‘Yes” the result would have been 0.00000000526% worse
    Nick Clegg is a sniveling pathetic idiot who’s been played like a violin

    Please rank in order of preference; second preferences will be redistributed until a winner is determined. (That’s fair, isn’t it?)

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  • The Lib-Dems would have done equally poorly had they got into bed with Labour.

    The labour hating part of their supporters would have voted for the Conservatives instead.

    All this is assuming that the IMF had not already been called in.

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  • I love all the anti-Scots shrieking that’s going on. Its a fact free zone of a debate, I like the cut of Alex Salmond’s jib, he seems to be the only party leader in the UK with much integrity. Just heard Nicola Sturgeon, SNP deputy, on the radio saying Scotland sends more revenue to the treasury than it gets back via the block grant. Its the first time I’ve heard this, anyone know if she is talking pish?

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  • rbs and bank of scotland almost bought the uk/world to financial meltdown overturning a long thought tradition of thinking that scots were prudent with money

    let them stand on their own two feet

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  • greenmind says:

    I wanted to vote for the SNP but they didnt field a candidate where I live in Devon.

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  • Salmond and Sturgeon. There’s something a bit fishy about them isn’t there?

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  • [email protected]

    You hear that Lib Dem idiot (not Clegg) trying to sell AV as a way of “banishing the Tories forever” ?

    Up until then I mistakenly thought the Lib Dem’s were promoting it on an idealogical basis but it was clear , and not just from this fellow , that the only reason they want it was because they think it would benefited them .

    On The Independent newspaper site , a commentor to an article was even advocating putting it in Labour and Lib Dem’s next election manifesto so “there would be no need to put it to the people in a referendum” !

    What a lot of people seem to find democracy an inconvenience and just want to impose their will on everyone else . Suppose in their minds the end justifies the means .

    It has come as a revelation to me that so many people would love to implement a single party system . It might work spectacularly well in China but over there it is run by professionals who are a heck of a lot smarter and more competent than the lobby fodder in Westminster .

    Can you imagine the same Govt in power for 4 terms in office in the UK ?

    We just had 3 with Nulabor and they were already preparing to rig everything to ensure they stayed in power forever . When the Conservatives were finally booted out it 1993 it wasn’t much different .

    We need regular changes of Govt here to keep the place on anything like an even keel .

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  • uncle tom says:

    Now that the SNP have a majority, they’ve no-one to blame when they screw up..

    ..and with so many spending pledges, and so little money to pay for them; screw-up they almost certainly will…

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  • the number cruncher says:

    I have noticed the SNP have frozen Council Tax. Playing to the HO’ist gallery! how very naughty of them. Although the SNP where instrumental in reversing a policy decision that is core to my objectives and have a lot of backbone in tackling some vested land interests in Scotland

    SNP, likes to play the all things to all men card and have done a very good job. Salmond has huge charisma and is very popular, look how the SNP vote collapsed when he retired from politics a few years back.

    When I lived in Scotland (1994-5) most of my recently graduated co-workers where very pro SNP, I think there are demographic issue at play with a younger generation seeing SNP as their natural choice, where once they would have been caught up in the left-right debate.

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  • Cut the porridge gobblers loose and let them run their own affairs without any financial support from the rest of the UK and then we’ll see an even bigger financial mess than that created by Jock Strap between 1997 and 2010.

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  • the number cruncher says:

    Is that with or without the oil Mr G?

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  • clockslinger says:

    It’s all too sad to watch. If anyone imagines Dave and Gideon are seasoned as political infighters, they are mistaken. They, just like Clegg, are political bedwetters. The fact that they can exist and even prosper is proof that there is not a single heavyweight to contend with. However, the Tories do have a notable advantage in that they still have some very able members of the old school around, well acqauinted with the arts of low cunning, duplicity and deadly intuition. Ken Clarke is a good example of the kind of wise old knee the brat Cameron can sit on if he gets a bit of a roughing up at at question time.
    Clegg is at their mercy! He also has a distinct disadvantage in the wise mentor department. Vince can’t even keep his plans in his trousers when talking (“off the record”! Ha!) about something as obviously uncontroversial as stiffing Murdoch. Who can ugly Nick turn to in his troubles, Paddy Ashdown?
    Yet all manage to appear as shining examples of political wizardry compared to Ed M. I imagine senior Tories must be pulling the limbs off small animals in sacrifice to Mamon for the gifts bequeathed by Nu Labour, namely a political party that has successfully purged itself of anything resembling a belief, alienated it’s recruiting ground for new talent and which still fails to find a leader with the courage to talk nasty about the class divide elephant which ought to be sitting right on their conscience. Just where do you turn? Well Scot Nat obviously, if you have the opportunity.

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  • It was UKIP all the way for Le Crunch.

    When will you peoples learn?

    Always vote for the outsider. Simples when you think about it.

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  • the number cruncher says:

    clockslinger – that was a brilliant analysis, sure your not a columnists? I wish the beeb was brave enough to employ a political commentator like your good self

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